Post Match Thread: Election 2017

[kevin horlocks wand]

What happens now, labour saying they will form a minority govt? Can they do that?

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Had a nice 4/1 on the 'draw', looked good around 3.30 at ht and the game played out that way.

 

[willipp]

Biggest winners today is the Europeans I feel, biggest cock up of all time with brexit negotiations due to take part in 10 days

I can't see how we can go into brexit negotiations with a hung parliament. They can't agree to bugger all at the best of times, this just makes it impossible to go into it with a strong stance if any stance at all.

 

[worsleyweb]

Do you think the result isn't significant then?!

She has got 43% of the vote - highest for a standing Government since Tony Blair's second term.

 

[HelloCity]

Would be amazing.

He'd get annihilated at the next election.

 

[Akiva]

She isn't that popular. There was a coordinated effort from No voters in the Ref to vote Tory to orev


The vote up here was all about Indy 2. When the threat to have an independent Scotland is removed, which is now and most of them will vote labour..

There are a group what I call socialist monarchists, there is a sectarian aspect to this too. Corbyn speaking to the IRA, even though it helped get the agreement doesn't matter so that hardcore will never vote for him but a lot will.

Oh there was tactical voting there too, I'm sure of that. Unionists will see Corbyn as the most likely to cough up an indyref2 to get into power and his history with the IRA during the troubles sets a poor precedent.

That said, Davidson is one of the most charismatic and genuinely likable Tories around and I think it does her a disservice to say that she wasn't a major driving force in their revival in Scotland.

 

[BlueHammer85]

So will it be Tory/DUP in government now ? For how long ?

 

[Vic]

What now for Ruth Davidson? If it wasn't for her we would now have a Labour/SNP/Lib dem/Green government.

If Scottish Tories had the same policies as England the result would have been different. Why vote to cut tuition fees when you don't pay them in Scotland? Why vote for a bus pass at 60 when you already get it (rather than retirement age as the Tories have done in England)? And so on ...

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Oh there was tactical voting there too, I'm sure of that. Unionists will see Corbyn as the most likely to cough up an indyref2 to get into power and his history with the IRA during the troubles sets a poor precedent.

That said, Davidson is one of the most charismatic and genuinely likable Tories around and I think it does her a disservice to say that she wasn't a major driving force in their revival in Scotland.

For me she should be considered for the big job when may does the right thing and fucks off

 

[waspish]

The biggest soundbite that made the difference in my opinion was Tories has cut 20,000 police officers since 2010 plus the younger age group getting out and vote.

 

[marco]

corbyn saying they wish to form a minority government,can someone explain

 

[Saddleworth2]

CCHQ might be asking her to come down for a chat.

Ruth is a very personable politician but she has run a very limited albeit successful campaign on the basis of 'say no to indyref2'. The surprise for me in Scotland is the resurgence of the Labour Party which ran a far more ambiguous line on indyref. If Ruth had run purely on the Tory manifesto don't think we would be looking at the level of gains achieved.

 

[Vic]

What would the Tories have to do to scupper a deal with the DUP?

 

[jonmcity]

I can't see how we can go into brexit negotiations with a hung parliament. They can't agree to bugger all at the best of times, this just makes it impossible to go into it with a strong stance if any stance at all.

You will need a cross party consensus of what we want from Brexit. I think the country voted no, to a hard Brexit. The final deal will now have to be voted on by a second referendum.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I can't see how we can go into brexit negotiations with a hung parliament. They can't agree to bugger all at the best of times, this just makes it impossible to go into it with a strong stance if any stance at all.

The EU were going to give a delay if the government changed, so presumably they will now. The EU are not Brit-hating idiots.

 

[hilts]

What a load of tosh, we are now more likely to get some sort of deal, as apposed to dropping of a financial cliff that "no deal May" would have given us.

I was talking about the strength of our bargaining position fella, I'm not currently interested in the hard and soft bollocks

 

[Vic]

corbyn saying they wish to form a minority government,can someone explain

Mcdonnell seemed to be suggesting that some Tory MPs would support socially progressive policies. Maybe all the new Scottish Tory MPs!

 

[pirate]

corbyn saying they wish to form a minority government,can someone explain

he can try
constitutionally he is allowed.
don,t think he will be successful.

 

[Saddleworth2]

At least May is staying to steady the ship.

The kids,and they can only be kids,that have voted for Labour have done with no memory. It's the only explanation. They haven't seen the damage Labour have done in the past. Poor tories had to come in and save the country.

May will not last the week. Tory party leadership is based on autocracy tempered by assassination. If she doesn't step down others will push her. Quite right too, she has made a fundamental mistake backed up by the worst run campaign in living memory.

 

[cibaman]

So will it be Tory/DUP in government now ? For how long ?

The tories just cannot risk another election in the near future. They will only do worse. So, yes they'll do whatever it takes to secure DUP support. That might hold for a couple of years but eventually by election defeats should lead to an election.

It will be interesting to see whether the DUP's increased prominence and influence will compel Sinn Fein to take its seats in Westminster.