Monkfish
Well-Known Member
I think they are pro "getting us out of the shit the last government left us in". Something that some people on here seem to have forgotten all about.
So it's Nick Cleggs fault. Remarkable
I think they are pro "getting us out of the shit the last government left us in". Something that some people on here seem to have forgotten all about.
A recession caused by the banks - mainly from the US side wasn't it? In either case quit the fucking bullshit, it's all Tory politicians have come out with this last election campaign and every single thing they've said about the opposition has been proved lies, hypocrisy and myth making. It's past the point of embarrassing.I think they are pro "getting us out of the shit the last government left us in". Something that some people on here seem to have forgotten all about.
So it's Nick Cleggs fault. Remarkable
Not my work, but agree with all this...
Feels like one of those step-change moments. Grenfell fire has all the threads
Huge amounts of inequality in one of the country's richest boroughs
Emergency services cut by austerity staffed with brave workers who haven't had a pay rise in years running towards danger
Work that used to be public sector being contracted out to a private sector and shareholders demanding a profit
A government that has repeatedly kicked into touch better housing regulation as "unnecessary red tape"
People shouting "don't politicise this tragedy" as if whether people preventably burn to death in their houses isn't a matter for the state
A recession caused by the banks - mainly from the US side wasn't it? In either case quit the fucking bullshit, it's all Tory politicians have come out with this last election campaign and every single thing they've said about the opposition has been proved lies, hypocrisy and myth making. It's past the point of embarrassing.
There are intertwining threads of issues that result in an economy not doing too well and to blame it all on the last government is very blinkered. In reference to them "getting us out of the shit the last government left us is" - it's funny how the find they manage to find the billions of pounds for things they want that aren't critical isn't it?
No, you cut the "fucking bullshit". I am sick to death people moaning about how fucking awful everything is and how we should spend more on X, more on Y, moron Z. The morons.
We had a deficit before the crash of 2007/8. And yes Gordon had to find the money to bail out the banks, or we'd all be fucked. Completely fucked. Even lefties agree there was no alternative.
And having bailed them out, he left us with the highest deficit of ALL major economies. We were teetering on the point of being Greece. It's so easy to be critical of the Tories not spending enough on everything, but we couldn't increase taxes, since it would destroy any hope of a recovery and we couldn't increase debt from what was already very high levels and rising fast, like £170bn a year fast.
The is the very inconvenient truth that Labour supporter are just not interesting in hearing.
Just fucking spend it anyway, is not the answer.
Just fucking spend it anyway, is not the answer.
But May's latest soundbite is 'an end to austerity' isn't it? So maybe there's a school of thought that spending can stimulate a stagnant economy and reduce the deficit that way...
Actually it is.