Post Match Thread: Election 2017

[PannickAtTheDisco]

I wish the same could be said of this post. It's incomprehensible.

it's simple, factual, containing far more truth than you've probably ever posted.

Left-wing radicalisation is an ever increasing problem and is undermining many efforts of social harmony and inclusiveness, they drive wedges at every opportunity, and have tried to do so again at a tragic incident which should have resulted in harmony and unity and instead they've made it political and started pontificating and turning it into a crusade to the detriment of all concerned, it's irresponsible, unpalatable and frankly disrespectful to the rest of society.

Funny how I actually like Corbyn far more than the people he now represents.

 

[urban genie]

Oh by the way.

The far left:

"Labour was overtaken by Blairites and wasn't real Labour!"

Also the far left:

"The guy who rebelled against the Labour Party more times than any Labour MP in history perfectly represents the Labour Party".

I guess what you need to do to be proper Labour in their eyes is constantly vote against the Labour Party. Somehow.

Speaking as someone who has had far left tendancies in my past.

The present labour leadership or momentum ain't far left, just the moderate left that existed before the 80's and to propose any different is mistaken.

Thatcher re-aligned the centre ground and labour obliged her by shifting too.

Lastly, going down to visit residents, while not being in power is about actually giving a shit, I cannot personaly change many things in life, but to not bother trying would be a sad reflection on myself.
One person actually giving a shit seen and carried forward by others can makè a difference.

It's sad our society has become so jaded that some dismiss and sneer at people at least trying to do good by others.

 

[The perfect fumble]

it's simple, factual, containing far more truth than you've probably ever posted.

Left-wing radicalisation is an ever increasing problem and is undermining many efforts of social harmony and inclusiveness, they drive wedges at every opportunity, and have tried to do so again at a tragic incident which should have resulted in harmony and unity and instead they've made it political and started pontificating and turning it into a crusade to the detriment of all concerned, it's irresponsible, unpalatable and frankly disrespectful to the rest of society.

Funny how I actually like Corbyn far more than the people he now represents.

I hope you're a troll, I really do.

 

[urban genie]

it's simple, factual, containing far more truth than you've probably ever posted.

Left-wing radicalisation is an ever increasing problem and is undermining many efforts of social harmony and inclusiveness, they drive wedges at every opportunity, and have tried to do so again at a tragic incident which should have resulted in harmony and unity and instead they've made it political and started pontificating and turning it into a crusade to the detriment of all concerned, it's irresponsible, unpalatable and frankly disrespectful to the rest of society.

Funny how I actually like Corbyn far more than the people he now represents.

How is it up on that high horse?

People are pissed off, local tory coucil refuses to even come out and meet the residents, may fannies about, fair fucks to angela leadsom for going down and speaking to people, but to suggest labour people going down to help and comfort (like leadsom did) is politicaly stiring people up is bollocks.

People are pissed off without any influence.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

How is it up on that high horse?

People are pissed off, local tory coucil refuses tp even come out and meet tge residents, may fannies about, fair fucks to angela leadsom for going down and speaki g to people, but to suggest labour people going down to help and comfort (like leadsom did) is politicaly stirimg people up is bollocks.

People are pissed off without any influence.

well, fine. But they should behave themselves, and they aren't. It's not on.

 

[The perfect fumble]

How is it up on that high horse?

People are pissed off, local tory coucil refuses tp even come out and meet tge residents, may fannies about, fair fucks to angela leadsom for going down and speaki g to people, but to suggest labour people going down to help and comfort (like leadsom did) is politicaly stirimg people up is bollocks.

People are pissed off without any influence.

He's a troll, he's not worth the steam off our piss.

 

[Bigga]

And what has Corbyn done to help them outside a hug?

Has he introduced new legislation to ensure tghs doesn't happen again and passed It?

No. Because he's unable to. Because he's not in Government. Because fanatics like you think politics is a competition about who can be ideologically superior.

So you have helped and will help no-one. You're a tediously useless entity.

Are you morally AND politically superior to every other Labour supporter in your fooking Ivory Tower?

How's the weather up there??

Who the fook are you to speak to people like that?

If you wanted to climb out of your arsehole for a single minute you would know about this:

Jeremy Corbyn tried to pass through a law that would required private landlords to make their homes safe and “fit for human habitation” last year – but it was rejected by the Conservatives.

Labour proposed an amendment to the Government’s new Housing and Planning Bill – a raft of new laws aimed at reforming housing law – in January last year, but it was rejected by 312 votes to 219.

Although the law doesn’t directly pertain to the tower, it did highlight fundamental flaws in Britain’s rental sector, such as the ones outlined by residents of the tower in the months and years leading up to the event.

According to Parliament’s register of interests, 72 of the MPs who voted against the amendment were themselves landlords who derive an income from a property.

Oh, but that's right; because he's not Gov he should sit on his hands and not try anything. Can't make suggestions, can't do this or that cos he's not Gov.

"Hey man, you should try and put a front gate on your garden to stop the kids running on to the road!"

"Shut the fuck up, dude, you ain't the parent to my kids!"

"Man, I was just making a reasonable suggestion! I'll just mind my business."

"MY KIDS! HELP!"

Hey Jeremy, why didn't you help those kids?

"Cos, apparently, I'm not their parent"...

"You tediously useless entity".

 

[goalmole]

Love that picture. The man is a real person with charisma.

He's a buffoon. Lying one at that.

 

[Raheem's On Fire]

I've voted for Corbyn twice for leader and voted Lab twice for my MP in 2 years.

Thought you voted Lib Dem in 2015..?

Edit: Checked old GE thread (a classic btw). You definitely voted Lib Dem

 

[Bigga]

Thought you voted Lib Dem in 2015..?

Edit: Checked old GE thread (a classic btw). You definitely voted Lib Dem

So, he lies as well from that Ivory Tower!

Who knew...?!

 

[Chippy_boy]

I've been feeling a bit sorry for our old Fumble, so thought I'd post a picture to cheer him up:

Happy times eh Fumble? Oh how you long for the good old days of union power and mass strikes. And tantalisingly close to your grasp once again. How exciting.

This is what it's about for Fumble. A return to Labour's roots, supporting the working man against evil governments and employers.

For too many years he's had to put up with this:

Corbyn is a dinosaur from an era long since passed and with little or no relevance or purpose in 21st century Britain. Riding high on a wave of ideological but unrealistic nonsense from the youth (amongst others), undeliverable electoral bribes of all shapes and sizes and Tory ineptitude.

 

[Chippy_boy]

it's simple, factual, containing far more truth than you've probably ever posted.

Left-wing radicalisation is an ever increasing problem and is undermining many efforts of social harmony and inclusiveness, they drive wedges at every opportunity, and have tried to do so again at a tragic incident which should have resulted in harmony and unity and instead they've made it political and started pontificating and turning it into a crusade to the detriment of all concerned, it's irresponsible, unpalatable and frankly disrespectful to the rest of society.

Funny how I actually like Corbyn far more than the people he now represents.

I agree mate. His policies vary from laudible to downright potty, with far too many of the latter. But there appears to be a really nasty divisive faction growing ever larger in the Labour party. It's a real and genuine threat to the existence of the party I think.

Why? Because if they succeed to taking over the party - which it appears they nearly have done - they will push it even further left and render it forever unelectable. The vast majority of Labour MP's do not support many of Corbyn's core beliefs. So they will either (a) be deselected or (b), leave or (c) compromise their principles and live a lie. Any which way, if Corbyn is allowed to continue unchecked, the Labour party is ruined. It's difficult to imagine how they could make themselves less appealing to a majority of voters in the 21st century. The world has moved on, but they clearly have not. I expect compulsory wearing of donkey jackets for all Labour MPs, some time soon.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

He's a troll, he's not worth the steam off our piss.

truth hurts, clearly.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

I've been feeling a bit sorry for our old Fumble, so thought I'd post a picture to cheer him up:

Happy times eh Fumble? Oh how you long for the good old days of union power and mass strikes. And tantalisingly close to your grasp once again. How exciting.

This is what it's about for Fumble. A return to Labour's roots, supporting the working man against evil governments and employers.

For too many years he's had to put up with this:

Corbyn is a dinosaur from an era long since passed and with little or no relevance or purpose in 21st century Britain. Riding high on a wave of ideological but unrealistic nonsense from the youth (amongst others), undeliverable electoral bribes of all shapes and sizes and Tory ineptitude.

what? you mean workers going to work and building things that are good and actually work, rather than standing outside whinging and destroying our manufacturing industry and crippling the country in the process? Never going to work.

 

[Bigga]

I've been feeling a bit sorry for our old Fumble, so thought I'd post a picture to cheer him up:

Happy times eh Fumble? Oh how you long for the good old days of union power and mass strikes. And tantalisingly close to your grasp once again. How exciting.

This is what it's about for Fumble. A return to Labour's roots, supporting the working man against evil governments and employers.

For too many years he's had to put up with this:

Corbyn is a dinosaur from an era long since passed and with little or no relevance or purpose in 21st century Britain. Riding high on a wave of ideological but unrealistic nonsense from the youth (amongst others), undeliverable electoral bribes of all shapes and sizes and Tory ineptitude.

"a wave of ideological but unrealistic nonsense"

The only reason police can't strike is they're not allowed to, but our firefighters have.

Which utopia is this one, then, since we're still in the 21st century...?

 

[stonerblue]

And what has Corbyn done to help them outside a hug?

Has he introduced new legislation to ensure tghs doesn't happen again and passed It?

No. Because he's unable to. Because he's not in Government. Because fanatics like you think politics is a competition about who can be ideologically superior.

So you have helped and will help no-one. You're a tediously useless entity.

For the first time ever, i've reported this post.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

For the first time ever, i've reported this post.

Mate he is full of hate. He argues and abuses everyone. He thinks he is morally and intellectually superior to all. It often gets fruity on here and we are often guilty of getting involved in a good row but he is just someone who is an abuser.

The irony of this is he opened this thread and warned people not be twats on it...

 

[urban genie]

I've been feeling a bit sorry for our old Fumble, so thought I'd post a picture to cheer him up:

Happy times eh Fumble? Oh how you long for the good old days of union power and mass strikes. And tantalisingly close to your grasp once again. How exciting.

This is what it's about for Fumble. A return to Labour's roots, supporting the working man against evil governments and employers.

For too many years he's had to put up with this:

Corbyn is a dinosaur from an era long since passed and with little or no relevance or purpose in 21st century Britain. Riding high on a wave of ideological but unrealistic nonsense from the youth (amongst others), undeliverable electoral bribes of all shapes and sizes and Tory ineptitude.

What a load of nonsense, one picture of the launch of the new honda off a production line in swindon is as missleading as your picture of the miners

This myth about decades of unions causing trouble is bollocks

The winter of discontent was 6 months long yet billed as the whole 70's ( which only had 3 other strikes which were pretty small 72, 74 & 76).
The mìners strike lasted 3 days short of being 1 year yet if you believed the way it's portrayed it was on for years.

Both instances were caused by bad planning previously by wilson and heath, and bad govenance by callaghan and thatcher, people moan about the unions and left while the country and it's manufacturing was sold off and destroyed by govenments.

Why is it that Germany, france, Italy etc managed to change/privatise/joint private and government ownership their manufacturinag industries and infrastructure and still have a decent ballance yet we flogged the lot and now have no major industry bar aerospace, a fractured national water and energy network and a delapidated transport system .


Right wingers waffle that us lefties dream of some fanciful utopia, that will cripple the nation, while ignoring the nation is already broken and at time no different to 2nd - 3rd world standards.

 

[Chippy_boy]

"a wave of ideological but unrealistic nonsense"

The only reason police can't strike is they're not allowed to, but our firefighters have.

Which utopia is this one, then, since we're still in the 21st century...?

This is *precisely* my point.

This is what the leftist Labour movement is all about, seeking a return to the days of strikes and demonstrations. There's many disgruntled people there for sure, but there's also many who are hobby protesters. They get off on it.

I was struck yesterday by the angry crowds outside Grenfell Tower, and I wondered just how many of them have had any actual involvement? And how big the crowd would have been had Labour won the election (i.e. how much smaller would it have been). Half these people are simply protesters, of whatever they can find to protest about it. They love it.

We've enjoyed decades of relative growth and prosperity and they've hated every moment of it. Now we've been going through difficult times and they are happy again.

For the lefties driving the agenda in the Labour movement right now, it's not very little to do with helping poor people and EVERYTHING to do with power. They sense an opportunity to mobilise public opinion and to gain power. That's what's driving this.

 

[Chippy_boy]

What a load of nonsense, one picture of the launch of the new honda off a production line in swindon is as missleading as your picture of the miners

This myth about decades of unions causing trouble is bollocks

Only it isn't.