POTY - Virgil Van Dijk

karen7 said:
He is good at heading the ball and kicking it away i'll give him that,he is no eric or john on the ball that is for sure,if he played for any other team he wouldn't get a look in
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I agree to a point. Liverpool's defense have tightened up and become better. Each part has made the other parts look better, as a whole. it's just that vvd has reaped most of the praise as it is he who is the new factor added to that backline.
I agree that if he played for Southampton still, or even City, there's no effing way would he be poty!
 
Amazing this guy wins PFA player of the year yet he never won it in Scotland with Celtic.
In fact in Scotland, journalists ,
Mark Guidi called him a dud.
Tom English said he was over rated.
Davie Provan said he wasn't worth £10M!

No wonder other countries think my leagues a backwater when our very own journalists continue to put it down
 
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burning blue soul said:
I agree to a point. Liverpool's defense have tightened up and become better. Each part has made the other parts look better, as a whole. it's just that vvd has reaped most of the praise as it is he who is the new factor added to that backline.
I agree that if he played for Southampton still, or even City, there's no effing way would he be poty!
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Liverpool's defence has actually regressed massively.

Since Christmas they are conceding at roughly the same rate they were before they spent £130m on the world's most expensive CB and GK.

It's one of the main reasons I'm confident they won't repeat this season's level of performance. They had a freakishly good run up to Christmas where their xG against was 16, but they only conceded 8. That run created the narrative that Liverpool's defence was incredible because they were on track to beat Chelsea's goals conceded record, but the stats showed that they were giving up massive chances and getting lucky.

Sure enough, since we beat them and burst their unbeaten bubble, they've conceded pretty much bang on xGa of 12 in 15 games - which is by no means top level.
 
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karen7 said:
He has dragged them to about 80 pts,goalies for other teams have given them the rest along with numerous offside goals,take away all that and they are nowhere near us,even when we get to 100pts and smash all the records none of our players get it,it's meaningless in that regard
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But I think that it's reflective of our team. Last season, we were comfortably the best team in the league. That's why we broke all those records. I would argue we didn't have a 'stand out' player that you thought clearly led us to those feats? Salah last year was incredible, we've just got to hold our hands up and accept he WAS the best player that season (just in a significantly worse team). This year, they've strengthened some areas that clearly needed addressing and fair play to the lad, VVD has been on another level. I think Raz has been great, but you could argue Bernardo has been our best player, Laporte, Aguero etc.

The biggest issue here is that they should wait until the league is finished. If Liverpool win it, then obviously VVD is fully 100% deserving of it. If they don't, you'd argue Sterling. Right now, it's pointless to vote because there are 3 games to go for each team. VVD might score 10 own goals between now and then.
 
burning blue soul said:
they are well down on last seasons figures, ...well down.
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They were way down until christmas. Since NYD they've conceded 12 in 15 which is on track for 30/season extrapolated out. Last year they conceded 38.

So Since NYD they've been better than last season by conceding about 1 goal less every 5 games.
 
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domalino said:
They were way down until christmas. Since NYD they've conceded 12 in 15 which is on track for 30/season extrapolated out.
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i take your point, but, even extrapolated out, its still down from 17/18 total (so far). but the point remains that he has become some fucking shining light of defending, just because they went through a purple patch and he was the new ingredient.
 
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