Predator drones

Rocket-footed kolarov said:
Discussion of military industrial complex is one thing, claiming that US and western govts are the primary backing for militant Islamist groups is just absurd. excuse me now whilst put on my aluminium cranium-cover, I have to pop out to the shops.

Who backed Bin Laden?

Who trained and armed his followers?
 
Josh Blue said:
Rocket-footed kolarov said:
Discussion of military industrial complex is one thing, claiming that US and western govts are the primary backing for militant Islamist groups is just absurd. excuse me now whilst put on my aluminium cranium-cover, I have to pop out to the shops.

Who backed Bin Laden?

Who trained and armed his followers?

Initially the US and UK governments.
 
Josh Blue said:
Rocket-footed kolarov said:
Discussion of military industrial complex is one thing, claiming that US and western govts are the primary backing for militant Islamist groups is just absurd. excuse me now whilst put on my aluminium cranium-cover, I have to pop out to the shops.

Who backed Bin Laden?

Who trained and armed his followers?



suicide bombers pick their targets dont they.if the drones are hitting their targets,i have no problem with this.
surely you cant just blame the yanks,if i knew i was a target i sure wouldnt have my family around me.or if i knew ted the terrorist was a target would i fuck nip around for afternoon tea...
The problem is the terrorists think they are untouchable and thats the only reason they are moaning about the drones,obviously they are doing a mighty fine job.
 
pominoz said:
Josh Blue said:
Peoples mothers, fathers and kids wiped out instantly just because a terrorist is in the area. Horrible stuff.

Edit- remember 7/7, 9/11, Bali, Madrid?
We are fighting a war here and unfortunately there will be civilian casualty's.
Better than carpet bombing of cities as was done in the past.
Two issues here:-

Most drone operations are conducted by the CIA from the other side of the world with direct authorisation from the president. I.e. no military involvement in a military operation.

Military technology these days allows precision strikes which would reduce the ratio enormously and a cobra style committee would allow proper consideration of the political, diplomatic, public relations, economic and military issues before authorisation is given.

Another demonstration of commonwealth ways of doing things :)
 
mrcunny said:
Josh Blue said:
Rocket-footed kolarov said:
Discussion of military industrial complex is one thing, claiming that US and western govts are the primary backing for militant Islamist groups is just absurd. excuse me now whilst put on my aluminium cranium-cover, I have to pop out to the shops.

Who backed Bin Laden?

Who trained and armed his followers?



suicide bombers pick their targets dont they.if the drones are hitting their targets,i have no problem with this.
surely you cant just blame the yanks,if i knew i was a target i sure wouldnt have my family around me.or if i knew ted the terrorist was a target would i fuck nip around for afternoon tea...
The problem is the terrorists think they are untouchable and thats the only reason they are moaning about the drones,obviously they are doing a mighty fine job.

You obviously don't understand. It's not the terrorists moaning by the way, it's me.
 
TCIB said:
CIA will manipulate all sorts of dodgy groups or even run them if it suits at the time.

You are right; US has had a role in numerous conflicts supporting their own puppets in government and recruiting groups to fight on their side Bay of pigs etc. However Unknown Genius posted a video that contained rhetoric about a false flag operation, Islamic terrorists being US backed mercenaries; who carried out 9/11. The real figure head was Ayman al-Zawahiri who is a US puppet and since Bin Laden's death the head of al-Qaeda.

Josh Blue watched this video but did n't even address this point; discussion of CIA dodgy dealings and Military industrial complex fuelled war is a valid debate, but false flag attacks by a country against its own people is frankly absurd.
 
Rocket-footed kolarov said:
TCIB said:
CIA will manipulate all sorts of dodgy groups or even run them if it suits at the time.

You are right; US has had a role in numerous conflicts supporting their own puppets in government and recruiting groups to fight on their side Bay of pigs etc. However Unknown Genius posted a video that contained rhetoric about a false flag operation, Islamic terrorists being US backed mercenaries; who carried out 9/11. The real figure head was Ayman al-Zawahiri who is a US puppet and since Bin Laden's death the head of al-Qaeda.

Josh Blue watched this video but did n't even address this point; discussion of CIA dodgy dealings and Military industrial complex fuelled war is a valid debate, but false flag attacks by a country against its own people is frankly absurd.

What video did I watch then chap? I said I had them bookmarked.
 
Josh Blue said:
Rocket-footed kolarov said:
TCIB said:
CIA will manipulate all sorts of dodgy groups or even run them if it suits at the time.

You are right; US has had a role in numerous conflicts supporting their own puppets in government and recruiting groups to fight on their side Bay of pigs etc. However Unknown Genius posted a video that contained rhetoric about a false flag operation, Islamic terrorists being US backed mercenaries; who carried out 9/11. The real figure head was Ayman al-Zawahiri who is a US puppet and since Bin Laden's death the head of al-Qaeda.

Josh Blue watched this video but did n't even address this point; discussion of CIA dodgy dealings and Military industrial complex fuelled war is a valid debate, but false flag attacks by a country against its own people is frankly absurd.

What video did I watch then chap? I said I had them bookmarked.

Okay but you if you had bothered to watch it then you would have realised it was a waste of time because it is just like any other truther with a youtube channel; they raise valid criticisms of US foreign policy in the 1st minute and then descend into fantasy stories about reptilians NWO etc.

If Unknown Genius wants to post crap then let him do it but if you have to satisfy him with a response then at least bother to watch a bit of it to find out what type of response it deserves.
 
Rocket-footed kolarov said:
Josh Blue said:
Rocket-footed kolarov said:
You are right; US has had a role in numerous conflicts supporting their own puppets in government and recruiting groups to fight on their side Bay of pigs etc. However Unknown Genius posted a video that contained rhetoric about a false flag operation, Islamic terrorists being US backed mercenaries; who carried out 9/11. The real figure head was Ayman al-Zawahiri who is a US puppet and since Bin Laden's death the head of al-Qaeda.

Josh Blue watched this video but did n't even address this point; discussion of CIA dodgy dealings and Military industrial complex fuelled war is a valid debate, but false flag attacks by a country against its own people is frankly absurd.

What video did I watch then chap? I said I had them bookmarked.

Okay but you if you had bothered to watch it then you would have realised it was a waste of time because it is just like any other truther with a youtube channel; they raise valid criticisms of US foreign policy in the 1st minute and then descend into fantasy stories about reptilians NWO etc.

If Unknown Genius wants to post crap then let him do it but if you have to satisfy him with a response then at least bother to watch a bit of it to find out what type of response it deserves.

I've been working so didn't have the time. I will watch them when I can.

Depends what you mean by fantasy stories because unfortunately false flags are anything but fantasy.
 

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