Predator drones

[pominoz]

Peoples mothers, fathers and kids wiped out instantly just because a terrorist is in the area. Horrible stuff.

Edit- remember 7/7, 9/11, Bali, Madrid?
We are fighting a war here and unfortunately there will be civilian casualty's.
Better than carpet bombing of cities as was done in the past.

 

[Josh Blue]

There are two things about the Drones that people seem to miss.

1. This is now setting a "drone law world precedent" a bit like when the US had a nuclear monopoly years ago. They had no rules they just had the attitude "we have a nuke if you step out of line then we will nuke you" Russia then detonated a bomb earlier than the US thought and they suddenly went "We need rules, we can't just have anyone having the bomb there must be world laws" When a new country eventually gets drones (and they will and they won't be any where near as accurate as the US's are) they will go "Now what are the rules? Oh yes that's right just fly them anywhere and bomb who you like under the guise of 'Killing a terrorist'"

2. The best thing that could have happened to America would have been if Romney had been elected. Only for the simple fact that the Liberal Civil rights groups in America would have created more push back ( a hell of a lot more ) if Romney had created a law that said that he could kill american citizens on american soil using a drone with just his say so not forgetting the numbers killed abroad. Can you imaging how the liberal main media would have hammered Romney (or Bush? Shit, imagine if Bush had said it) but because Obama is one of "their guys" nothing gets said.

If Romney was in the Whitehouse all the new laws that Obama is passing that are allowing such things like this to go one would at least be discussed and not just swept away because he is a supposed "liberal"

side note on "terrorist" America has no legal definition of what a terrorist is.

There is in fact some rules regarding Drone Warfare.

It is an act of war to use drones in any sovereign state.

Of course Yemen and Pakistan are both sovereign states (Not sure about Somalia and Afghan) but the the governments of Yemen and Pakistan have agreed the U.S to use drones on their people. The puppet governments in these countries are just as bad as the Obama administration imo.

The scary thing is the U.S government has now passed law that it is now legal to use drone strikes on U.S soil.

 

[Tuearts right boot]

That unfounately is the nature of the beast. Terrorists dont wear uniforms and 'hide' amongst civilians. No easy way either way.

 

[Ragnarok]

There are two things about the Drones that people seem to miss.

1. This is now setting a "drone law world precedent" a bit like when the US had a nuclear monopoly years ago. They had no rules they just had the attitude "we have a nuke if you step out of line then we will nuke you" Russia then detonated a bomb earlier than the US thought and they suddenly went "We need rules, we can't just have anyone having the bomb there must be world laws" When a new country eventually gets drones (and they will and they won't be any where near as accurate as the US's are) they will go "Now what are the rules? Oh yes that's right just fly them anywhere and bomb who you like under the guise of 'Killing a terrorist'"

2. The best thing that could have happened to America would have been if Romney had been elected. Only for the simple fact that the Liberal Civil rights groups in America would have created more push back ( a hell of a lot more ) if Romney had created a law that said that he could kill american citizens on american soil using a drone with just his say so not forgetting the numbers killed abroad. Can you imaging how the liberal main media would have hammered Romney (or Bush? Shit, imagine if Bush had said it) but because Obama is one of "their guys" nothing gets said.

If Romney was in the Whitehouse all the new laws that Obama is passing that are allowing such things like this to go one would at least be discussed and not just swept away because he is a supposed "liberal"

side note on "terrorist" America has no legal definition of what a terrorist is.

There is in fact some rules regarding Drone Warfare.

It is an act of war to use drones in any sovereign state.

Of course Yemen and Pakistan are both sovereign states (Not sure about Somalia and Afghan) but the the governments of Yemen and Pakistan have agreed the U.S to use drones on their people. The puppet governments in these countries are just as bad as the Obama administration imo.

The scary thing is the U.S government has now passed law that it is now legal to use drone strikes on U.S soil.

The Pakistan government agree to this because of the billions in aid they get. If i recall correctly, they tried to impose some restrictions on the US recently which saw the US immediately withdrawing most of the aid money.<br /><br />-- Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:41 pm --<br /><br />

There are two things about the Drones that people seem to miss.

1. This is now setting a "drone law world precedent" a bit like when the US had a nuclear monopoly years ago. They had no rules they just had the attitude "we have a nuke if you step out of line then we will nuke you" Russia then detonated a bomb earlier than the US thought and they suddenly went "We need rules, we can't just have anyone having the bomb there must be world laws" When a new country eventually gets drones (and they will and they won't be any where near as accurate as the US's are) they will go "Now what are the rules? Oh yes that's right just fly them anywhere and bomb who you like under the guise of 'Killing a terrorist'"

2. The best thing that could have happened to America would have been if Romney had been elected. Only for the simple fact that the Liberal Civil rights groups in America would have created more push back ( a hell of a lot more ) if Romney had created a law that said that he could kill american citizens on american soil using a drone with just his say so not forgetting the numbers killed abroad. Can you imaging how the liberal main media would have hammered Romney (or Bush? Shit, imagine if Bush had said it) but because Obama is one of "their guys" nothing gets said.

If Romney was in the Whitehouse all the new laws that Obama is passing that are allowing such things like this to go one would at least be discussed and not just swept away because he is a supposed "liberal"

side note on "terrorist" America has no legal definition of what a terrorist is.

There is in fact some rules regarding Drone Warfare.

It is an act of war to use drones in any sovereign state.

Of course Yemen and Pakistan are both sovereign states (Not sure about Somalia and Afghan) but the the governments of Yemen and Pakistan have agreed the U.S to use drones on their people. The puppet governments in these countries are just as bad as the Obama administration imo.

The scary thing is the U.S government has now passed law that it is now legal to use drone strikes on U.S soil.

The Pakistan government agree to this because of the billions in aid they get. If i recall correctly, they tried to impose some restrictions on the US recently which saw the US immediately withdrawing most of the aid money.

 

[Josh Blue]

That unfounately is the nature of the beast. Terrorists dont wear uniforms and 'hide' amongst civilians. No easy way either way.

Not confirmed terrorists, suspected terrorists.

 

[TGR]

It is believed that 50 Civilians Are Killed For Every 1 Terrorist.

Pakistan suffers the most from Drone attacks and the causalities are believed to be as high as 3,299 which includes 197 children.

The list of countries that are subject to regular drone attacks are Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan and Somalia.

The aim is to kill suspected terrorists with precision drone strikes. If the suspected terrorist is in a school then so be it, collateral damage. However to be suspected of being a terrorist you only have to be a Muslim man of military age.

Obama signs every drone strike off personally.

The mainstream media will rarely mention these tragedies and our cowardly government supports the program. People should be up in arms about the tragic loss of human life but nobody seems to care?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4[/youtube]

Chilling evilness.

Hysterical post.
Drones dramatically reduce the risk of soldiers being killed whilst on special missions.
They would not knowingly strike a school full of children.
Pakistan gets hit often as they harbour terrorists (including Bin Laden)
Why does Obama sign of every strike personally? Because he takes such things extremely seriously (and I 'aint no Obama fan!)
Maybe we should be up in arms about the tragic loss of human life caused by these terrorists - or would make people be 'bigots' 'racisits, 'right wingers' etc?
Your post is complete and total nonsense. if you have posted it seriously and its not a wum you should ashamed of yourself.

 

[Ragnarok]

That unfounately is the nature of the beast. Terrorists dont wear uniforms and 'hide' amongst civilians. No easy way either way.

Surely there has to be a better way than killing countless number of innocent civilians. But anyway thats Americas strong point. Their constitution virtually allows them to do anything at all to further their interests without regard for the consequences. Its the main reason they are the most powerful country in the world at the moment<br /><br />-- Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:46 pm --<br /><br />

It is believed that 50 Civilians Are Killed For Every 1 Terrorist.

Pakistan suffers the most from Drone attacks and the causalities are believed to be as high as 3,299 which includes 197 children.

The list of countries that are subject to regular drone attacks are Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan and Somalia.

The aim is to kill suspected terrorists with precision drone strikes. If the suspected terrorist is in a school then so be it, collateral damage. However to be suspected of being a terrorist you only have to be a Muslim man of military age.

Obama signs every drone strike off personally.

The mainstream media will rarely mention these tragedies and our cowardly government supports the program. People should be up in arms about the tragic loss of human life but nobody seems to care?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4[/youtube]

Chilling evilness.

Hysterical post.
Drones dramatically reduce the risk of soldiers being killed whilst on special missions.
They would not knowingly strike a school full of children.
Pakistan gets hit often as they harbour terrorists (including Bin Laden)
Why does Obama sign of every strike personally? Because he takes such things extremely seriously (and I 'aint no Obama fan!)
Maybe we should be up in arms about the tragic loss of human life caused by these terrorists - or would make people be 'bigots' 'racisits, 'right wingers' etc?
Your post is complete and total nonsense. if you have posted it seriously and its a wum you should ashamed of yourself.

I assume the tens of hundreds of innocents who die every month should be ashamed of themselves too ....

 

[Josh Blue]

Peoples mothers, fathers and kids wiped out instantly just because a terrorist is in the area. Horrible stuff.

Edit- remember 7/7, 9/11, Bali, Madrid?
We are fighting a war here and unfortunately there will be civilian casualty's.
Better than carpet bombing of cities as was done in the past.

Are we fighting a war? Who is we?

Are the people of Yemen and Pakistan fighting a war?

 

[pominoz]

It is believed that 50 Civilians Are Killed For Every 1 Terrorist.

Pakistan suffers the most from Drone attacks and the causalities are believed to be as high as 3,299 which includes 197 children.

The list of countries that are subject to regular drone attacks are Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan and Somalia.

The aim is to kill suspected terrorists with precision drone strikes. If the suspected terrorist is in a school then so be it, collateral damage. However to be suspected of being a terrorist you only have to be a Muslim man of military age.

Obama signs every drone strike off personally.

The mainstream media will rarely mention these tragedies and our cowardly government supports the program. People should be up in arms about the tragic loss of human life but nobody seems to care?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4[/youtube]

Chilling evilness.

Hysterical post.
Drones dramatically reduce the risk of soldiers being killed whilst on special missions.
They would not knowingly strike a school full of children.
Pakistan gets hit often as they harbour terrorists (including Bin Laden)
Why does Obama sign of every strike personally? Because he takes such things extremely seriously (and I 'aint no Obama fan!)
Maybe we should be up in arms about the tragic loss of human life caused by these terrorists - or would make people be 'bigots' 'racisits, 'right wingers' etc?
Your post is complete and total nonsense. if you have posted it seriously and its a wum you should ashamed of yourself.

I am a socialist lefty as you know, but i agree with every word of your post.

 

[TGR]

That unfounately is the nature of the beast. Terrorists dont wear uniforms and 'hide' amongst civilians. No easy way either way.

Surely there has to be a better way than killing countless number of innocent civilians. But anyway thats Americas strong point. Their constitution virtually allows them to do anything at all to further their interests without regard for the consequences. Its the main reason they are the most powerful country in the world at the moment

-- Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:46 pm --

It is believed that 50 Civilians Are Killed For Every 1 Terrorist.

Pakistan suffers the most from Drone attacks and the causalities are believed to be as high as 3,299 which includes 197 children.

The list of countries that are subject to regular drone attacks are Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan and Somalia.

The aim is to kill suspected terrorists with precision drone strikes. If the suspected terrorist is in a school then so be it, collateral damage. However to be suspected of being a terrorist you only have to be a Muslim man of military age.

Obama signs every drone strike off personally.

The mainstream media will rarely mention these tragedies and our cowardly government supports the program. People should be up in arms about the tragic loss of human life but nobody seems to care?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4[/youtube]

Chilling evilness.

Hysterical post.
Drones dramatically reduce the risk of soldiers being killed whilst on special missions.
They would not knowingly strike a school full of children.
Pakistan gets hit often as they harbour terrorists (including Bin Laden)
Why does Obama sign of every strike personally? Because he takes such things extremely seriously (and I 'aint no Obama fan!)
Maybe we should be up in arms about the tragic loss of human life caused by these terrorists - or would make people be 'bigots' 'racisits, 'right wingers' etc?
Your post is complete and total nonsense. if you have posted it seriously and its a wum you should ashamed of yourself.

I assume the tens of hundreds of innocents who die every month should be ashamed of themselves too ....

I assume you mean the innocent people killed by the terrorists?