Predator drones

[Ducado]

The fact that Prestwich_Blue actually bothered to think up this ridiculous scenario which in no way relates to the use of predator drones is insane, scary and pathetic all at the same time.

It is cowardice act to try and legitimise the killing of any innocent peoples.

It's no more ridiculous than Damocles' scenario that i used it to answer.

Mine was an attempt to personalise death to see if you'd willing sacrifice your own as quickly as you are sacrificing others. The fact that you completely missed this and thought it was a real hypothetical point then called it stupid is funny.

Ladies and gentlemen, Dunning Kruger live and in action

-- Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:30 am --

Some of you lot confuse me you seem to be saying that when some nutter blows himself up on a crowded tube station it's really OK we get what we deserve and as PB pointed out its perfectly acceptable for Palestinians to fire rockets at civilians, but it's only Jews getting hurt and they deserve it well at least we know where we stand

That's a helpful and informative post that added a lot to this discussion ducado, well done.

I aim to please

 

[AntiUnited]

I just can't understand how you can justify the murder of innocent people.

And i can't believe some of the shit i am reading on here...

You and me both.
I have seldom seen such flimsy, spurious logic deployed to defend indiscriminate killing.
Thankfully it's only the usual predictable apologists who think that way.

And here's Bluemoon's very own drone, right on station.

The original post claimed that 50 civilians were being killed for every terrorist. That wasn't the case and it was actually 1 per 5 terrorists. Is that still too many? Yes it is but the sad reality is that we're fighting a war not against tanks and troops on a battlefield but people who live and hide among civilians. People who have no problem killing hundreds of innocent civilians. They don't ask you before detonating their bombs and splattering you all over a tube carriage how you feel about certain things.

Despite all the opporbrium heaped on George Bush, his policy was only to undertake targeted killings of known individuals. That's at least less repugnant than the Obama doctrine which is that if people fit the pattern of a terrorist then they'll be hit. But even that Bush policy can (and probably has) lead to the deaths of innocent people. There are always terrible moral dilemmas in war and this is sadly another.

And there's another thing. The fear of living under the threat drone attacks was well described in that study by Stanford & NYU. Yet not many if any of the people on here attacking the drone policy expressed any sympathy whatsoever for the Israeli children who live in constant dread of rocket attacks and have suffered pyschological problems because of it. Those childrens' lives don't count to them.

They have bunkers... Palestinians have nothing... Tanks Soldiers gated walls fear of getting shot walking around the streets ye same thing..

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

The fact that you completely missed this and thought it was a real hypothetical point then called it stupid is funny.

Ladies and gentlemen, Dunning Kruger live and in action

You're quoting Dunning Kruger? The man who has such an attitude of superiority that's he can never ever recognise he might be wrong.

 

[blueinsa]

The fact that you completely missed this and thought it was a real hypothetical point then called it stupid is funny.

Ladies and gentlemen, Dunning Kruger live and in action

You're quoting Dunning Kruger? The man who has such an attitude of superiority that's he can never ever recognise he might be wrong.

Does Ric allow the use of the banhammer drone when settling rows amongst his Mod brethren?


FIGHT!!!

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

You and me both.
I have seldom seen such flimsy, spurious logic deployed to defend indiscriminate killing.
Thankfully it's only the usual predictable apologists who think that way.

And here's Bluemoon's very own drone, right on station.

The original post claimed that 50 civilians were being killed for every terrorist. That wasn't the case and it was actually 1 per 5 terrorists. Is that still too many? Yes it is but the sad reality is that we're fighting a war not against tanks and troops on a battlefield but people who live and hide among civilians. People who have no problem killing hundreds of innocent civilians. They don't ask you before detonating their bombs and splattering you all over a tube carriage how you feel about certain things.

Despite all the opporbrium heaped on George Bush, his policy was only to undertake targeted killings of known individuals. That's at least less repugnant than the Obama doctrine which is that if people fit the pattern of a terrorist then they'll be hit. But even that Bush policy can (and probably has) lead to the deaths of innocent people. There are always terrible moral dilemmas in war and this is sadly another.

And there's another thing. The fear of living under the threat drone attacks was well described in that study by Stanford & NYU. Yet not many if any of the people on here attacking the drone policy expressed any sympathy whatsoever for the Israeli children who live in constant dread of rocket attacks and have suffered pyschological problems because of it. Those childrens' lives don't count to them.

They have bunkers... Palestinians have nothing... Tanks Soldiers gated walls fear of getting shot walking around the streets ye same thing..

Thank you for proving my point.

 

[Skashion]

Fook me. This thread was half sensible when I left it. Look what happens when I'm not around to supervise. You should all be banished to the naughty step.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Fook me. This thread was half sensible when I left it. Look what happens when I'm not around to supervise. You should all be banished to the naughty step.

You'll need at least two naughty steps lest the Jews and Muslims start bombing everything in sight.

Oh, and make me a step but make it higher than the others so I can look down on them and their tribal impulses.

 

[Skashion]

Fook me. This thread was half sensible when I left it. Look what happens when I'm not around to supervise. You should all be banished to the naughty step.

You'll need at least two naughty steps lest the Jews and Muslims start bombing everything in sight.

Oh, and make me a step but make it higher than the others so I can look down on them and their tribal impulses.

I'll be killing everyone with drones.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

I just can't understand how you can justify the murder of innocent people.

And i can't believe some of the shit i am reading on here...

You and me both.
I have seldom seen such flimsy, spurious logic deployed to defend indiscriminate killing.
Thankfully it's only the usual predictable apologists who think that way.

And here's Bluemoon's very own drone, right on station.

The original post claimed that 50 civilians were being killed for every terrorist. That wasn't the case and it was actually 1 per 5 terrorists. Is that still too many? Yes it is but the sad reality is that we're fighting a war not against tanks and troops on a battlefield but people who live and hide among civilians. People who have no problem killing hundreds of innocent civilians. They don't ask you before detonating their bombs and splattering you all over a tube carriage how you feel about certain things.

Despite all the opporbrium heaped on George Bush, his policy was only to undertake targeted killings of known individuals. That's at least less repugnant than the Obama doctrine which is that if people fit the pattern of a terrorist then they'll be hit. But even that Bush policy can (and probably has) lead to the deaths of innocent people. There are always terrible moral dilemmas in war and this is sadly another.

And there's another thing. The fear of living under the threat drone attacks was well described in that study by Stanford & NYU. Yet not many if any of the people on here attacking the drone policy expressed any sympathy whatsoever for the Israeli children who live in constant dread of rocket attacks and have suffered pyschological problems because of it. Those childrens' lives don't count to them.

It's a difficult task, but you actually manage to look more ridiculous and desperate with every passing post.
No wonder Damocles posts rarely nowadays - his brand of common sense is bound to go down badly in the mod room.
So psychological damage to Israeli kids is a fair comparison to dead Palestinian children, and countless innocent civilians?
Incremental and exponential foolishness on this scale is extremely rare, even by Bluemoon standards.
So well done you.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Fook me. This thread was half sensible when I left it. Look what happens when I'm not around to supervise. You should all be banished to the naughty step.

You'll need at least two naughty steps lest the Jews and Muslims start bombing everything in sight.

Oh, and make me a step but make it higher than the others so I can look down on them and their tribal impulses.

I'll be killing everyone with drones.

You know, it'd be easier just to kill all new born babies, or sterilise people, in order to counter terror, crime and general hooliganism.