hilts
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Had a beer?
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Predictions on the referendum
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Had a beer?
BigJoe#1
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I genuinely think the Bluemoon forum poll will be a good indicator of the outcome of the referendum.
Yaya_Tony
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Yeah. It's immaterial though. I'm frustrated by small minded little Englanders who think that all our ills will be magically solved by leaving the EU, when the reality is that all the same shit will still be there, and any benefits are ignored.Had a beer?
greasedupdeafguy
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Think we will remain sadly and the beginning of the united states of Europe with Turkey joining and the formation of an EU army.
greasedupdeafguy
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You do realise most people entering through freedom of movement are white?Only a fucking moron would vote out, yes you Farage, Johnson and gove. Personally, I'm not a fan of Cameron or Corbyn, both cunts, but I am English, then British, then European. Voting out is not only gonna fuck us up now, it'll fuck up your grandkids too. The world will keep turning with a few more brown skinned people on our small island, who gives a shit. IN. Stupid not to, unless you're endemically selfish.
Personally I think people from the commonwealth whose grandfathers willingly gave up their lives for the freedom of this country in WW2 should have more of a right to come to this country than people in the EU.
EalingBlue2
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Otherwise known as the rational and intelligent folk of Britain who can use heart and head at the same timeThe remains are made up of gravy train riding, fat cat vested interests and timid sheeple who believe everything the powers that be tell them... sadly I think their numbers are high enough to see them scrape a win
Though I fear rationality and intelligence are minority characteristics nowadays
JULES
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out 58 - in 42
Cameron was lucky that he was against David Davies for the Conservative leadership. Lucky that he stood against Brown and not Blair. Lucky that Miliband and Corbyn, both from the left, have stood against him. Lucky that Brown bailed him out in the Scottish vote. If his luck holds we stay in. But what for? Political and Fiscal Union. That's why polls are slowly favouring LEAVE.
Chancy Termites
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Yeah. It's immaterial though. I'm frustrated by small minded little Englanders who think that all our ills will be magically solved by leaving the EU, when the reality is that all the same shit will still be there, and any benefits are ignored.
Just another little Brusselser who wants to seal us off from the rest of the world.
rickmcfc
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Remain will win due to the mass scaremongering that had been going on, so many have fallen for it. Shame really.
After 4 months of campaigning, delivering close to 40,000, holding 12 Street Stalls, and many many hours canvassing, and even being interviewed on the BBC 6pm News for Vote Leave, I can report the tide has turned.
At times the length of the campaign broke me, however it's worked in our favour as the scare stories lost their bite and people have now looked for themselves at the EU in detail. Yes there could be an economic ripple, but we've recovered before, what it is clear to me now is the British electorate are prepared to ride that wave to grab back control.
I am at the count on the night and should be able to give feedback on the % of real votes fairly quickly.
My belief is now Leave wins 53 -47.
At times the length of the campaign broke me, however it's worked in our favour as the scare stories lost their bite and people have now looked for themselves at the EU in detail. Yes there could be an economic ripple, but we've recovered before, what it is clear to me now is the British electorate are prepared to ride that wave to grab back control.
I am at the count on the night and should be able to give feedback on the % of real votes fairly quickly.
My belief is now Leave wins 53 -47.
BigJoe#1
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Look forward to your updates mate. I shall be out campaigning today... The final drive!After 4 months of campaigning, delivering close to 40,000, holding 12 Street Stalls, and many many hours canvassing, and even being interviewed on the BBC 6pm News for Vote Leave, I can report the tide has turned.
At times the length of the campaign broke me, however it's worked in our favour as the scare stories lost their bite and people have now looked for themselves at the EU in detail. Yes there could be an economic ripple, but we've recovered before, what it is clear to me now is the British electorate are prepared to ride that wave to grab back control.
I am at the count on the night and should be able to give feedback on the % of real votes fairly quickly.
My belief is now Leave wins 53 -47.
I can't see leave winning. I think it'll be 60-40 to stay.
But I hope gor an out win or for it to at least be very very close. I don't necessarily want the uk to leave - I want the EU to be scared into changing for the better because as it stands they don't listen to anyone. If leave wins I can't see it ending there. The EU will return with concessions aplenty and beg for a redo. Everyone's a winner :-).
But in reality in will win and all will be back to normal.
But I hope gor an out win or for it to at least be very very close. I don't necessarily want the uk to leave - I want the EU to be scared into changing for the better because as it stands they don't listen to anyone. If leave wins I can't see it ending there. The EU will return with concessions aplenty and beg for a redo. Everyone's a winner :-).
But in reality in will win and all will be back to normal.
Silva_Spell
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Think it will be a close Remain vote, unfortunately.
Most undecided will vote to Remain under the false impression that Remain = the status quo with no risk attached.
The reality is that the EU will accelerate its integration plan. It has no choice if it's to save the Eurozone - the majority of members - indeed the EU itself. After the vote we'll hear all about how we're going to lead the EU, how with our 'seat at the table' we'll reform the EU. But the reality is that the EU cannot afford to let it be reformed or be led by a non Eurozone nation. All future EU decisions have to be made with the Eurozone in mind, it'd be suicidal not to. Youth unemployment in southern Europe alone dictates this. Think of the state of Europe in 10+ years if this continues
Most undecided will vote to Remain under the false impression that Remain = the status quo with no risk attached.
The reality is that the EU will accelerate its integration plan. It has no choice if it's to save the Eurozone - the majority of members - indeed the EU itself. After the vote we'll hear all about how we're going to lead the EU, how with our 'seat at the table' we'll reform the EU. But the reality is that the EU cannot afford to let it be reformed or be led by a non Eurozone nation. All future EU decisions have to be made with the Eurozone in mind, it'd be suicidal not to. Youth unemployment in southern Europe alone dictates this. Think of the state of Europe in 10+ years if this continues
Citizen of Legoland
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Angela's army is on its way,Think we will remain sadly and the beginning of the united states of Europe with Turkey joining and the formation of an EU army.
Angela's army is here to stay,
And I would rather be anywhere else,
Than here ... should that happen.
dickie davies
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I can't see leave winning. I think it'll be 60-40 to stay.
But I hope gor an out win or for it to at least be very very close. I don't necessarily want the uk to leave - I want the EU to be scared into changing for the better because as it stands they don't listen to anyone. If leave wins I can't see it ending there. The EU will return with concessions aplenty and beg for a redo. Everyone's a winner :-).
But in reality in will win and all will be back to normal.
That's an interesting thought
Are they allowed to do that?
If they did, does it not open the door for every nation to do the same?
Or would this be the start of the reform that everyone really wants?
Think it will be a close Remain vote, unfortunately.
Most undecided will vote to Remain under the false impression that Remain = the status quo with no risk attached.
The reality is that the EU will accelerate its integration plan. It has no choice if it's to save the Eurozone - the majority of members - indeed the EU itself. After the vote we'll hear all about how we're going to lead the EU, how with our 'seat at the table' we'll reform the EU. But the reality is that the EU cannot afford to let it be reformed or be led by a non Eurozone nation. All future EU decisions have to be made with the Eurozone in mind, it'd be suicidal not to. Youth unemployment in southern Europe alone dictates this. Think of the state of Europe in 10+ years if this continues
The EU's integration plan is a dead duck. There's no chance of them agreeing further integration.
That's an interesting thought
Are they allowed to do that?
If they did, does it not open the door for every nation to do the same?
Or would this be the start of the reform that everyone really wants?
I think the only reform that would be considered acceptable, in the event of an Out vote, would be a return to a bog standard free trade agreement. The EU fat cats aren't going to propose that - why give up all that money and power?