If you're so progressive you put your love of Bernie ahead of 4 more years of trump, you're a fucking idiot. There's nothing progressive about facilitating another term of Trump.
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If you're so progressive you put your love of Bernie ahead of 4 more years of trump, you're a fucking idiot. There's nothing progressive about facilitating another term of Trump.
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Let me tell you, if Biden wanted to get Progressives on board, he's fucked that right up...
They'll dig in heels.
What a tool!
In other news: Bears shit in the woods.
Bigga
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If you're so progressive you put your love of Bernie ahead of 4 more years of trump, you're a fucking idiot. There's nothing progressive about facilitating another term of Trump.
What's dumb is shitting on Sanders who has pledged to help him win.
The byproduct is the Progressives that were begrudgingly onside, now think, what's the difference here? If no one gives a shit about them, why would they bother supporting Biden?
Biden is an overconfident tool. From 'you ain't Black' to 'fuck Progressives'.
If you can't understand the message, you have serious issues.
You must be new to this thread, he's a Bernie/Trump voter (if he could vote - which, luckily, he can't).If you're so progressive you put your love of Bernie ahead of 4 more years of trump, you're a fucking idiot. There's nothing progressive about facilitating another term of Trump.
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What's dumb is shitting on Sanders who has pledged to help him win.
The byproduct is the Progressives that were begrudgingly onside, now think, what's the difference here? If no one gives a shit about them, why would they bother supporting Biden?
Biden is an overconfident tool. From 'you ain't Black' to 'fuck Progressives'.
If you can't understand the message, you have serious issues.
I confess to not yet having seen the video that you posted but you have me more than a little conflicted.
I have been reading your posts on the Biden vs Sanders debate and have been educated, enlightened, call it what you may. Not a moment of epiphany type thing, more of an understanding of your position.
My conflict is simple. As a confirmed "anybody but Trump" I just can't bend my head around the idea that you are so opposed to Biden in the context of the current situation. This is despite understanding, I hope, and to an extent agreeing with your reasoning. When I first heard Sanders talk I thought he came across well and felt that here was a man who could be a force for good. Having said that I've always though Clinton spoke well also.
It's just that to not get behind Biden increases Trumps chances of reelection and I cannot countenance that in any scenario.
mancity2012_eamo
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So if not Biden, who would you vote for in your current presidential election system.What's dumb is shitting on Sanders who has pledged to help him win.
The byproduct is the Progressives that were begrudgingly onside, now think, what's the difference here? If no one gives a shit about them, why would they bother supporting Biden?
Biden is an overconfident tool. From 'you ain't Black' to 'fuck Progressives'.
If you can't understand the message, you have serious issues.
FogBlueInSanFran
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If you're so progressive you put your love of Bernie ahead of 4 more years of trump, you're a fucking idiot. There's nothing progressive about facilitating another term of Trump.
He sees Trump and Biden as equivalent tools of the great conspiracy of corporate America to squash average Americans (never mind that they employ average Americans, and sell products to average Americans, but anyhow). Oh, sorry -- he sees Kamala Harris as just as bad too. Also she's not really "Black". Sanders was his choice, and when Sanders (as well as every other prominent progressive politician in the USA) endorsed Biden for the greater good, he ignored them, and continues to desperately hunt for Joe Rogan clips and whatever else he can find to eviscerate Biden. He's basically an infant who's ideas and arguments have been rejected, but demands that unless he gets his way, nothing good can happen in the nation (which he doesn't live in, hasn't studied, hasn't been to and doesn't understand).
As you can see, the word "if" belongs nowhere near any sentence one might type about this poster being a fucking idiot.
His posts are single-handedly the dumbest on any of the political threads because they aren't WUMs -- he actually cannot see the forest for the trees -- actually, he cannot see the forest for the bark. Actually, he cannot see the forest because his head is buried up his own rectum.
Edit: I should note -- I don't disagree with him about everything. He's right that in certain places in the US, progressives are winning seats and making important waves. And I am totally fine with that. But that isn't the topic. It's Biden vs Trump. That's the choice. And he chooses to focus 100% of his energy on smacking Biden. Because see above.
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I diagnose you with a case of over analogy. :-)He sees Trump and Biden as equivalent tools of the great conspiracy of corporate America to squash average Americans (never mind that they employ average Americans, and sell products to average Americans, but anyhow). Oh, sorry -- he sees Kamala Harris as just as bad too. Also she's not really "Black". Sanders was his choice, and when Sanders (as well as every other prominent progressive politician in the USA) endorsed Biden for the greater good, he ignored them, and continues to desperately hunt for Joe Rogan clips and whatever else he can find to eviscerate Biden. He's basically an infant who's ideas and arguments have been rejected, but demands that unless he gets his way, nothing good can happen in the nation (which he doesn't live in, hasn't studied, hasn't been to and doesn't understand).
As you can see, the word "if" belongs nowhere near any sentence one might type about this poster being a fucking idiot.
His posts are single-handedly the dumbest on any of the political threads because they aren't WUMs -- he actually cannot see the forest for the trees -- actually, he cannot see the forest for the bark. Actually, he cannot see the forest because his head is buried up his own rectum.
I posted earlier saying whilst I understand where @Bigga is coming from vis a vis Sanders vs Biden and the need for a more progressive USA I can't get past my own response which is simply "But it's Trump"
I diagnose you with a case of over analogy. :-)
I posted earlier saying whilst I understand where @Bigga is coming from vis a vis Sanders vs Biden and the need for a more progressive USA I can't get past my own response which is simply "But it's Trump"
Quite. I get that people have their principles and rightly hold them dearly. However, voting isn't about waiting for the exact party/candidate to come along who fits your values perfectly. Go with whoever is closest to you as otherwise you end up with something much, much worse.
journolud
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Let me tell you, if Biden wanted to get Progressives on board, he's fucked that right up...
They'll dig in heels.
What a tool!
Presumably as a strategy there are more votes in it for him to distance himself from the “progressives” and appeal to the middle ground, whatever that is in the US, and disenchanted Trump voters.
Hypothetical I know but realistically how do you think a progressive democrat would fare against Trump or a normal republican? What sort of result would a three horse race bring us?