President Trump

[KS55]

The doctor should be struck off.

He may not exist.

 

[KS55]

Was thinking about this ripping off thing earlier. Great news for the USA that all these tourists aren’t visiting the States anymore with all that ripping off of Americans they’ve been doing over the years.

Did I read the figure of 90 billion dollars potential loss of income somewhere?
I don’t think that was just tourism but an overall figure.
Some sources are suggesting that about 85% of the usual Canadian visitors will not go to US now.
About 20 million Canadian visitors per year is the usual figure.
For every 1000 dollars that is worth the total is 20 billion. Maybe that 90 billion is just tourism?

 

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

Except they are all made in China .....

Oh FFS another of my MAGA policies debunked again..........

 

[roubaixtuesday]

 

[noseve]

So when Russia bombs Sumy "I hear they made a mistake.."

What will Trump say if questioned about this one, I wonder?

 

[The perfect fumble]

I think you have been led astray somewhat by Mr Campbell. You would not be the first as he was Blair’s chief leader astray!
Ignore his remarks and answer the following: who enforces due process irrespective of the gov’s attitude?

You tell me.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

So when Russia bombs Sumy "I hear they made a mistake.."

What will Trump say if questioned about this one, I wonder?

He'll say that it would never have happened if he'd been President, it's all down to Biden and Zelensky, and how much he admires Putin.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Obviously no idea how true these figures are but I've seen a few similar ones popping up from various different places. On a personal level I know a trip to America was one of the options for my 50th birthday a bit later this year (was looking at the F1 in Austin) but with everything going on its dropped down the options list so wouldn't surprise me if they were accurate.

There's too much evidence of cancelled flights and hotel reservations for this to be anecdotal. My wife and I were thinking of a trip to New York, not any more. The number of Canadians crossing the border has dwindled to a trickle.

It's such a pity, there's so much to admire and enjoy in America, not least the people, but Trump and Trumpism has seriously damaged America's appeal.

 

[The perfect fumble]

With respect Mr Fumble I think you’ve said a lot there without, actually saying very much at all. Once again, I believe you’ve misrepresented what I said. And while I don’t want to misrepresent you in return, it seems your view is that multiculturalism is the root cause of modern social problems particularly extremism and that these issues didn’t exist prior to large-scale immigration. You feel English identity is being denied and that the white working class has been abandoned by the left. I fundamentally disagree with that view.

I appreciate this has drifted well off topic. I’m happy to continue the discussion in a more relevant thread, or we can simply disagree agreeably and leave it there.

Then stop obfuscating, start your thread in defence of whatever it is you're defending and I'll turn up, otherwise it's not au revoir it's goodbye, I've been patronised in better joints than this.

 

[KS55]

You tell me.

The court enforces due process. If the order requires gov action, they run the risk of contempt for non compliance. (See García immigration case) Often, of course, due process does not need gov action and the plaintiff’s rights can be secured without the gov.
So it’s rather more than Campbell’s gentlemen’s agreement. I can’t remember why he said it, no doubt to obscure some peccadillo by Blair.

 

[KS55]

Then stop obfuscating, start your thread in defence of whatever it is you're defending and I'll turn up, otherwise it's not au revoir it's goodbye, I've been patronised in better joints than this.

I think you’re talking to the Dax of multiculturalism.

 

[KS55]

Except they are all made in China .....

As are his famous red hats.

 

[The perfect fumble]

The court enforces due process. If the order requires gov action, they run the risk of contempt for non compliance. (See García immigration case) Often, of course, due process does not need gov action and the plaintiff’s rights can be secured without the gov.
So it’s rather more than Campbell’s gentlemen’s agreement.

I know this, but who enforces it? With the emphasis on force.

 

[KS55]

I know this, but who enforces it? With the emphasis on force.

In the US it would be the US Federal Marshalls. (Minor current problem, they report to the DoJ!) Here, the police may rarely make an arrest but I suppose the court could order incarceration for serious contempt.
What Campbell is really saying is that democracy and the rule of law ultimately depend on consent and he’s not wrong. Democracy, as we have seen in the US, is very fragile.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

There's too much evidence of cancelled flights and hotel reservations for this to be anecdotal. My wife and I were thinking of a trip to New York, not any more. The number of Canadians crossing the border has dwindled to a trickle.

It's such a pity, there's so much to admire and enjoy in America, not least the people, but Trump and Trumpism has seriously damaged America's appeal.

Was in a work call yesterday with Brits, Europeans and Yanks.

Those attending an upcoming US conference were discussing leaving personal phones behind.

Yanks all apologetic.

 

[The perfect fumble]

In the US it would be the US Federal Marshalls. (Minor current problem, they report to the DoJ!) Here, the police may rarely make an arrest but I suppose the court could order incarceration for serious contempt.
What Campbell is really saying is that democracy and the rule of law ultimately depend on consent and he’s not wrong. Democracy, as we have seen in the US, is very fragile.

And the Department of Justice, as you say, will almost certainly do nothing, hence due process has no teeth if the agencies charged with enforcing it won't bite.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

I still find it hard to embrace the notion that Trump was recruited by the Russians decades ago, as he was quite obviously a gobshite back then too. Not the calibre of intelligence you would expect.
However, it’s true to say Putin must be one of a very few world leaders that’s loving this.
He couldn’t have planned the Western Economy turmoil better no matter how many genius minds he’d throw at the problem.
One gobshite in the Whitehouse is all he needed.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Was in a work call yesterday with Brits, Europeans and Yanks.

Those attending an upcoming US conference were discussing leaving personal phones behind.

Yanks all apologetic.

I interview people around the world about relocating to Iceland. Up until last year it was difficult to attract Americans. I have spoken to 12 people recently who have basically said they are leaving the country. A lot of these were from minority groups. One was a USA citizen with a Chinese wife with a green card who said they dare not leave even for a holiday as she may not get back.

There's no laughter in these peeople abpout it. Right minded yanks are horrified.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Was in a work call yesterday with Brits, Europeans and Yanks.

Those attending an upcoming US conference were discussing leaving personal phones behind.

Yanks all apologetic.

I work for an American firm, lots if transatlantic travel is the norm.

Definitely much reduced appetite. Basically people have adopted a very cautious approach. I'd be very surprised if the US is not in a recession right now (as in this qtr and the next will see reduced gdp). The mindset is keep your head down and don't take risks, that is exactly how recessions start.

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]