President Trump

[SWP's back]

Nothing to see here about bias in job-seeking. (An experiment repeated many times.)

Is it easier to get a job if you're Adam or Mohamed?

"Adam Henton" was offered three times more job interviews than "Mohamed Allam", a BBC study finds.

www.bbc.co.uk

The myth that white men have it harder is beyond moronic and just the latest racist trope from losers that regard their own lack of talent as someone else’s fault.

 

[Blue Maverick]

The myth that white men have it harder is beyond moronic and just the latest racist trope from losers than regard their own lack of talent as someone else’s fault.

I wouldn’t say harder but if there is a “quota” to fill and two candidates are equal in every way yet they need more minorities to fill that “quota” then you know which way this is going. The quotas I talk about are to more represent the communities we live in because I can tell you it happened in the fire service and was pushed a lot, sometimes to the detriment of the service.

 

[JASR]

Nothing to see here about bias in job-seeking. (An experiment repeated many times.)

Is it easier to get a job if you're Adam or Mohamed?

"Adam Henton" was offered three times more job interviews than "Mohamed Allam", a BBC study finds.

www.bbc.co.uk

This is it in a nutshell.
Decades of ‘white male’ overt or ingrained bias has some pushback to realign gender, ethnic or religious bias, and toys are thrown from pram because it’s perceived as ‘taking from the white man’

 

[oldius]

I wouldn’t say harder but if there is a “quota” to fill and two candidates are equal in every way yet they need more minorities to fill that “quota” then you know which way this is going. The quotas I talk about are to more represent the communities we live in because I can tell you it happened in the fire service and was pushed a lot, sometimes to the detriment of the service.

I was very much against positive discrimination at one time, but I was naive to situations where racism was present in the workplace. I once took over a business in Keighley, and on my desk when I arrived were 31 job applications from Asian applicants. The business was understaffed and I asked if those people had been invited to interview. I was told that 'we were waiting for the new manager'. When I asked why it was explained that previous managers would not recruit Asian applicants because they thought the members of the club wouldn't like it. We immediately began interviewing, appointing several Asian members of staff, and there were no issues whatsoever. We saw the same issues in county cricket and in other industries, so the need for positive discrimination to redress that imbalance is inevitable, and right.

 

[oldius]

This is it in a nutshell.
Decades of ‘white male’ overt or ingrained bias has some pushback to realign gender, ethnic or religious bias, and toys are thrown from pram because it’s perceived as ‘taking from the white man’

Perfectly put.

 

[HelloCity]

ICE has arrested a 13 year old boy in Boston and put him in a detention facility; his mother getting little to no info about him​

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/15/us/13-year-old-detained-ice-boston

"I only talk to him – never to any official who could explain what kind of place it is or what's happening," Berto told CNN, speaking in Portuguese.

Last Thursday, she was called by police in Everett, Massachusetts, a Boston suburb, who said her son Arthur had been arrested. She was told she needed to pick him up.

But Berto left the police station without Arthur that night.
After waiting in the station for more than an hour, an officer informed her Immigration and Customs Enforcement had already taken him away.

"They didn't give me any information," said Berto, who is from Brazil and along with her family have had a pending asylum application since arriving in the United States in 2021. "I asked where he was being taken, and they said they weren't allowed to say."

Berto and her attorney, Andrew Lattarulo, both told CNN they spent days waiting to learn what led to the arrest – information that finally came Tuesday afternoon.

 

[.db.]

I was very much against positive discrimination at one time, but I was naive to situations where racism was present in the workplace. I once took over a business in Keighley, and on my desk when I arrived were 31 job applications from Asian applicants. The business was understaffed and I asked if those people had been invited to interview. I was told that 'we were waiting for the new manager'. When I asked why it was explained that previous managers would not recruit Asian applicants because they thought the members of the club wouldn't like it. We immediately began interviewing, appointing several Asian members of staff, and there were no issues whatsoever. We saw the same issues in county cricket and in other industries, so the need for positive discrimination to redress that imbalance is inevitable, and right.

Positive Discrimination is unlawful in the Equality Act. You’re not allowed to positively discriminate.

But then the Equality Act contradicts istelf. ‘Positive Action’ is the part of the Equality Act that states that as long as the application process is open to everyone, you can then positively discriminate in selecting the candidate (not in those exact words, but the contradiction of it might as well say it like that).

For me, I disagree with it. The best person for a job (whether that be their qualifications, experience or personality, or a combination of all of those things, being the best fit) should get the job. If that means an entire floor of people are white, sobeit, if it means there are no white people at all, sobeit. As long as it’s not done just to favour a certain characteristics.

Even if there’s been an imbalance through discrimination previously, going forward it should always just be the best person for the job.

 

[Vic]

So from the article, from two years ago, no one was unable to apply for a job. A couple of dozen recruits were held back whilst women and minorities were fast tracked, it was deemed unlawful and the men were compensated.

So all in all, absolutely nothing like the knuckle dragging gammon stated. Got it, appreciate you posting the link.

The daft thing is that the RAF is struggling to recruit anyone.

 

[Vic]

I wouldn’t say harder but if there is a “quota” to fill and two candidates are equal in every way yet they need more minorities to fill that “quota” then you know which way this is going. The quotas I talk about are to more represent the communities we live in because I can tell you it happened in the fire service and was pushed a lot, sometimes to the detriment of the service.

Yep, they let women put out fires.

 

[KS55]

My son runs a business in the centre of Bradford. Maybe 90% of his staff are Muslims. The only problem he encounters, other than common HR issues, is the allocation of religious holidays.

 

[HelloCity]

Supporting this muppet is like putting on Star Wars and thinking Emperor Palpatine is the good guy.

Rebel scum.

 

[oldius]

Positive Discrimination is unlawful in the Equality Act. You’re not allowed to positively discriminate.

But then the Equality Act contradicts istelf. ‘Positive Action’ is the part of the Equality Act that states that as long as the application process is open to everyone, you can then positively discriminate in selecting the candidate (not in those exact words, but the contradiction of it might as well say it like that).

For me, I disagree with it. The best person for a job (whether that be their qualifications, experience or personality, or a combination of all of those things, being the best fit) should get the job. If that means an entire floor of people are white, sobeit, if it means there are no white people at all, sobeit. As long as it’s not done just to favour a certain characteristics.

Even if there’s been an imbalance through discrimination previously, going forward it should always just be the best person for the job.

In the case I highlighted, the best people for the job were ignored on the grounds of race.

 

[flook]

So from the article, from two years ago, no one was unable to apply for a job. A couple of dozen recruits were held back whilst women and minorities were fast tracked, it was deemed unlawful and the men were compensated.

So all in all, absolutely nothing like the knuckle dragging gammon stated. Got it, appreciate you posting the link.

thanks, saved me reading it

 

[AK45]

In the case I highlighted, the best people for the job were ignored on the grounds of race.

Your example is obviously wrong and if them people were qualified then they of course should have been interviewed and appointed.

I do not agree with EDI in the slightest though. As you and the poster says, it should absolutely be the best person for the role. I have applied for jobs recently and to keep reading how certain people get an automatic interview is a piss take. They may not be remotely qualified and get to waste everybodys time with an interview. Of course there needs to be equal opportunities but ultimately the best person for the job should get it.

I work in education and if there is a learner who may require additional support, that support is given to level it out. You cannot then give an advantage to them dependent on the level of support provided, alterations are given to ensure they have the equal opportunity as others. EDI gives others an unfair advantage. Charlie Kirk got battered for his pilot comments, which he explained since but people did not want to hear it and he was 100% right. The same way he flipped it and said if the NBA included EDI and said a certain percentage of players had to be white, the standards would slip. It isn't rocket science.

 

[flook]

And throw out the US team as they are no longer hosting.

I couldn’t believe me eyes seeing Infantino slithering his way out at that Egypt peace conference, he then looked about as much use as a spare prick at a wedding as the stage filled with politicians and loitered on the far left of the stage (and in the pics taken) while everyone else on there must have wondered who the fuck was and those that did wondering what the fuck is he doing here.

Infantino is worse than Blatter, has about as much backbone as an invertebrate

 

[threespires]

This is what Trump has unleashed.

The last recorded lunching from a tree was 1981and any sane person would view James Byrd's murder in 1998 as a lynching. This is not ancient history, this is still part of the dna of some Americans. There's a real risk that the environment Trump is creating will embolden a return amongst some to that depraved mentality.

 

[.db.]

In the case I highlighted, the best people for the job were ignored on the grounds of race.

Which shouldn’t happen as it’s unlawful, but positive discrimination shouldn’t then happen as a result of that as it’s also unlawful.

 

[bluejon]

Your example is obviously wrong and if them people were qualified then they of course should have been interviewed and appointed.

I do not agree with EDI in the slightest though. As you and the poster says, it should absolutely be the best person for the role. I have applied for jobs recently and to keep reading how certain people get an automatic interview is a piss take. They may not be remotely qualified and get to waste everybodys time with an interview. Of course there needs to be equal opportunities but ultimately the best person for the job should get it.

I work in education and if there is a learner who may require additional support, that support is given to level it out. You cannot then give an advantage to them dependent on the level of support provided, alterations are given to ensure they have the equal opportunity as others. EDI gives others an unfair advantage. Charlie Kirk got battered for his pilot comments, which he explained since but people did not want to hear it and he was 100% right. The same way he flipped it and said if the NBA included EDI and said a certain percentage of players had to be white, the standards would slip. It isn't rocket science.

Charlie Kirk was a racist nazi **** backed by christian nationalist/republican money. Fuck him. He was not 100% right, he was 100% ****.

 

[noseve]

So from the article, from two years ago, no one was unable to apply for a job. A couple of dozen recruits were held back whilst women and minorities were fast tracked, it was deemed unlawful and the men were compensated.

So all in all, absolutely nothing like the knuckle dragging gammon stated. Got it, appreciate you posting the link.

Wait - are you saying that a MAGA sheep has based their opinion on a sound byte, without fact-checking it?!?

Surely not ;-/

 

[AK45]

Charlie Kirk was a racist nazi **** backed by christian nationalist/republican money. Fuck him. He was not 100% right, he was 100% ****.

Yet he wasn't. If you can say one thing he said which was racist I will go with. He didn't. He was 100% right when it came to EDI and right on other things too, not everything but a lot of it.