Problem With Plumbing - Advice needed!

[Pride_In_Battle]

Do you live local to Manchester?

Any chance you can post a photo of the area in the bathroom and the rear of the toilet where the multi-quick is

Is the smell intermittent?
Or there all time
Have you checked under the floor for water? Is there somthing in the bathroom that's not used much,you would be surprised how many people don't use the bath or a shower if they have both in the room and the trap dries up and if it's connected internally to the svp,you will get smells and bad air coming up all the time

Don't take what the plumber said as gospel,most of them haven't got a clue about faults with drains and the svp and there's a lot of "plumbers" wandering about causing more harm than good.

Sadly it's down to yourself to put it right,caveat emptor I'm afraid

I could spend the next hour asking relevant questions about it,but unless I had a look the job,it's a bit difficult

The smell is there the whole time, sometimes it's worse than other times. The whole bathroom isn't used a great deal, other than for the occasional bath, and the toilet if guests are around d. However, I've been flushing the toilet regularly, and have used a bathroom sink unblocker in there since we've moved in to get rid of the smell.

Can't get pictures behind the toilet, it's completely boxed in, so can't get in there easily. However, I've had a smell from the hole where the drainage goes through, and it's definitely coming up from the drains. It's worse from the bath than the sink though.

If you can tell me what a multi-quick looks like, I can take a picture. In South Wales, so not exactly convenient!

 

[Pride_In_Battle]

Ah fuck.......I thought one of the Bluemoon ladies had started a thread.

Bottom of the 2nd page before this joke was made. Sometimes I'm a little surprised/ disappointed in Bluemoon ;)

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

The smell is there the whole time, sometimes it's worse than other times. The whole bathroom isn't used a great deal, other than for the occasional bath, and the toilet if guests are around d. However, I've been flushing the toilet regularly, and have used a bathroom sink unblocker in there since we've moved in to get rid of the smell.

Can't get pictures behind the toilet, it's completely boxed in, so can't get in there easily. However, I've had a smell from the hole where the drainage goes through, and it's definitely coming up from the drains. It's worse from the bath than the sink though.

If you can tell me what a multi-quick looks like, I can take a picture. In South Wales, so not exactly convenient!

My logic is if it needs fixing anyway, you might as well start removing the boxing around the toilet/pipes. The problem might become obvious when you do.

 

[malg]

Bottom of the 2nd page before this joke was made. Sometimes I'm a little surprised/ disappointed in Bluemoon ;)

Bummer.........

 

[Pride_In_Battle]

My logic is if it needs fixing anyway, you might as well start removing the boxing around the toilet/pipes. The problem might become obvious when you do.

Even if the smell is mainly coming from the drain in the bath on the other side of the room? If you think it'd help, I'll happily do it, but the boxing runs the entire length of the bathroom and also holds the sink, a cupboard, and I'd probably have to remove tiles to get it off. Just want to check before I start dismantling my entire bathroom :(

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

So we've just moved into a new house, only 8 years old. Had a plumber out today to look into a nasty smell in one of the bathrooms, and they said they've been called out to this before a few years ago.

Seems as though the soil pipe hasn't been connected properly, and as it runs behind a wall, it's going to be a big job, around 4 grand, to put right.

Where do I stand with this? It wasn't picked up in the Surveyors report (only had the basic one done), and the previous owners didn't tell us about it, despite the fact that they knew about it a few years ago. Would this be covered by my home insurance?

A big job you say?

 

[Garrinchas---Dog]

Ok if the smell is localised just to the bathroom then the fault is in that room
Forget unblocking gels and acids,this is not needed
Put the plug in the bath and put about 3" of water in it,then put your nose next to the overflow,then pull the plug out,as the water flows away air will come back through the overflow,if it smells the same bingo.do the same on the sink
If this is the cause of the smell then it's indicative of poor fall/backfall on the wastepipes
If this is not the cause then you are going to have to take the boxing off the rear of the toilet and have a look at the multi-quick and see if the seal is causing the fault
As the house is only 8yrs old,and going off what you have said,I'm gonna stick my neck out and say it's the fall on the wastepipe rather than a major fault with the soilstack
Just run water through everything in that bathroom

 

[bobmcfc]

If it's only 8 years old then surely it is under guarantee or something with whoever built it ?

 

[Pride_In_Battle]

So I took the panel off the bath and took a couple of pictures of what's going on under there. Can anyone see anything out of the ordinary?

The black plastic sheeting seems to have been put in to try and keep the smell out by whichever cowboy last looked at it! No idea what the random vent is on the second image though.

 

[Mustard Dave]

So we've just moved into a new house, only 8 years old. Had a plumber out today to look into a nasty smell in one of the bathrooms, and they said they've been called out to this before a few years ago.

Seems as though the soil pipe hasn't been connected properly, and as it runs behind a wall, it's going to be a big job, around 4 grand, to put right.

Where do I stand with this? It wasn't picked up in the Surveyors report (only had the basic one done), and the previous owners didn't tell us about it, despite the fact that they knew about it a few years ago. Would this be covered by my home insurance?

I'm a building services engineer at a loss adjusters; this would not be covered by your insurance.

How obvious is the problem? was it apparent when you moved in? What is the exact nature of the fault - how have you arrived at four grand?

The seller should have listed any ongoing problems.

Correct, although if he believed he had rectified it, he would not have to say anything.

PIB - what action did the plumber take previously.

New build thought it was covered for 10 yrs

It depends. The ten year guarantee applies to houses built by members of the NHBC, but membership isn't compulsory. The warranty doesn't cover everything for the full ten years. Major structural issues would be, but other items have a shorter warranty period.