Protest?

Corky said:
It needs an independent supporters club to speak for the fans. Should get at least 10k members , £5 year to join, a proper constituted body, but not subservient to the club, doing the SLO job or a display group (who rely on club cooperation so are tempered) .
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When things were really bad under Swales and Forward with Franny and the OSC supported Swales an unofficial club was formed and that did reach anywhere need those levels
 
Maybe we should start an FC utd type club up. You know, 3pm kick offs, half empty stadiums, weak as piss beer and cheaper tickets.

Maybe along the way we'll meet city after we get relegated to the dog and duck burger King league.
 
The points system needs to come back, but after the last 13 years what the uck is there to protest about?
 
Eds said:
The club's wage bill is circa £420m (if this is incorrect I am sure someone will correct me. The proposed ticket increases I read will bring in the club around an extra £1.5m if that. Just imagine if the entire staff bill was cut by just 1% then we could all have a discount. The club wouldn't be receiving all this appalling PR and everyone would be happy. For someone like KDB that would mean a weekly wage of just £346,500 instead of £350k. I think he could survive and even at the bottom end of the scale someone like Rico would earn £24,750 per week instead of £25k. Businesses do increase costs but the difference between a players wage and the average supporter is world's apart. I reckon if you ask the players to have a 1% wage decrease (not bonuses) so that the supporters weren't priced out they all would. Tourists are not going to follow the club when we aren't winning things (and it will happen) but we will.
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That’s before tax and NHI so it would cost Kev about £50k / year net
 
BringBackSwales said:
I think you’re right but you’re also probably going to get a load of pelters for saying it.

Before the takeover we were the only fabric of the club. Without our special fanbase we wouldn’t be here now. However the club now is a lot bigger than us but I do think they have disenfranchised us, especially over the last 2 or 3 years.

The away support is stupendous but it is being eroded by the leaking off of so many tickets. At home we are seeing season tickets not replaced as older Blues die or stop going. More and more day trippers.

Pep sometimes bollocks us for the apathy of our home support, but does he know why that’s happening? He knows our loyal working class history, he has said as much, but I doubt he realises how much his top exec pals are putting a big strain on that.

I don’t know how we do it. I certainly wouldn’t rely on Kevin Parker and I don’t advocate leaving early - I enjoy the football too much for that. Maybe we could all flash the torches on our phones - oh wait!

I spent decades protesting against Swales, I detested the man, then a few years wanting Franny out. This is a different sort of problem but it is one that should be aired. What really pissed me off was the shambles of Istanbul and the misery that thousands faced due to the deliberate ineptitude of UEFA and not one word in support of us from the club. I had my 2 teenage kids with me that night and the difficulties before and after the match were shocking and the lack of acknowledgement from the club has irreparably tarnished my opinion of the senior execs at the club.

So yes I’d protest but not a clue how.
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Undoubtedly, City are simply following the inevitable business trail in maximising profit & growth similar to probably all clubs in the top leagues. However, doesn't mean it should be accepted. If there's no 'push-back' the club quite rightly will continue on this path & keep pushing for even larger increases in the future. Yes, compared to the other top 6 clubs we represent pretty good value from a ST POV but I do think the club are now trying to play catch-up. Do they really need to in the grand scheme of things regarding tv, sponsorship & prize money dwarfing match day income. Of course its a growth area but at what price. The revenue generated will never surpass the former.

Been spending time in Germany for work & got chatting with a few football fans over there who are amazed how generally UK football supporters can afford season tickets in the Premier League in this climate & continue to live a satisfactory life. A good old joke of is everyone simply paying for everything on credit. A 50+1 model may not be for everyone but it certainly assisted most German football fans in putting their foot down on & slowing the rate of increase match day prices their clubs would trying to implement especially during the COVID period. Unfortunately, it comes at an expense of lack of football competitiveness existing in the Bundesliga due to the bigger & larger established clubs maintaining this advantage knowing large investments into the lesser clubs are unlikely to occur without a decrease of fan ownership. However, most fans are willing to accept this as culturally it seems they put more weight on maintaining a strong fan & social culture than winning trophies & making matches more accessible & feasible to the general public. Most of the fans who don't follow Bayern Munich hate them, but accept them being top dogs on the football field with the current model which individually serves them better to have a drink or two with their mates during the weekend without breaking the bank rather than 'cashing-out' & following the money-laden English Premiership model.

Don't agree with walking out as a protest & I doubt Pep has any idea what's going on regarding ticket prices & nor should he since its not his remit. I don't even think Soriano has a clue about the impact these prices increases have on the general fans. Its got be an exec or manager who has come up with these initiatives who has most likely been set an objective by his/her boss to increase match day revenue in line with other comparable clubs. Tbf, to make any sort of impact there probably has to be a banner directed at Soriano during a prime time game..only then will it snowball.You single someone out & they are immediately in the spotlight. He may or may not have been responsible but he sure can do something about it. Pep & others won't like it & most likely will cause a distraction on the field but then again just like rail strikes its not meant to be or designed to be convenient.

Going down the consultative route has frankly got us no where, not only on this issue but others such as the Istanbul fiasco. Like others I'm amazed there wasn't a fatality out there. Even after the comprehensive & well structured report submitted by @Alex - City Matters. What was even more disappointing & shows the club's complete disengagement with all fans (legacy & every Blue) is the lack of a response or even acknowledgement on this subject.
 
Silence is golden.

Everyone will still go to the matches, especially with a title run in looming, so there’s little point in trying to organise a boycott or a walkout, bar the last 10 minutes, which happens anyway. But a silent protest is doable. Then again, Pep and the club might think nothing off it as silence and no atmosphere is apparently the norm at the Etihad on a match day.

Look! I’m not saying there shouldn’t be a protest because there should be a protest. I’d be up for it. But the club wouldn’t give a fuck. They’ve long gone past caring about what the fans think and want. Us legacy fans are expendable. Tourists and day trippers are the future Legacy fans. Ask Khaldoon, Soriano and Danny Wilson about that, they will confirm it.
 
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