Protests against prorogation of Parliament

[mancity2012_eamo]

Our unwritten constitution relies on the Government not abusing their position and the Head of State acting as a backstop to prevent them from doing so.
In the case of this prorogation the system failed which brings into question whether it is fit for purpose and whether we now need a written constitution.

Is that the Balmoral/Buckingham backstop or just the Buckingham one.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Like Len says, ultimately power rests with the Crown, if that is undermined, then the whole system is in danger of being undermined hence his comment about written constitution. I suppose if his motivations challenge or question the authority of the crown therein lies the issue, but as i am not sure nor am i a constituional expert that is pure speculation and supposition.

It just saddens me that the Judiciary have become embroiled in the whole shebang, but i get why they have no option to do otherwise. It does put the judiciary in a dreadful position.

I doubt the Supreme Court will see it that way.

They will take a narrow mechanistic view, they will rule that Prorogation is a long established procedure, the procedures were followed and that's that.

What motivated Johnson to seek prorogation and whether those motivations were honestly expressed to the Queen, belongs to the world of politics and the Supreme Court will rule that such considerations are none of its concern.

If an act is lawful who cares what motivated it?

 

[cibaman]

There is a clear difference. Anything that goes through the HoC and is voted through while the MP's are sitting and all the checks and balances are in place is the way our politic's is done and in line with how the process should work. At the end of the day the HoC should rule on everything and if you can't get something through the HoC it shouldn't happen. A50 was only issued subject to meaningful votes on the proposed deal.

Blocking or side-stepping the normal process for a political reason is not how things should be done. And that is where the queen has been dragged in and asked to agree to something that is clearly politically motivated. If BoJo had any faith in his argument he could have put it to a vote in the HoC. But he would have been defeated - hence he went straight to the Queen and hop'd she would not object.

Yes, I get that. Ideally prorogation should require a vote in parliament. If parliament is prepared to give the PM authority to prorogue then parliament should specify the restrictions on that authority.

It’s basically the idea of the monarch deciding on whether to prorogue or not, based on some sort of value judgement as to the PM’s motives that I don’t like.

 

[George Hannah]

Zombie Parliament ahead? The next Letwin plot exposed by Sunlight - Tom Newton Dunne, despite his employer's well known shortcomings, is often close to the Tory inside track

 

[blueparrot]

Zombie Parliament ahead? The next Letwin plot exposed by Sunlight - Tom Newton Dunne, despite his employer's well known shortcomings, is often close to the Tory inside track

Makes sense to me resolve Brexit and have an election on domestic issues with policies based on our settled EU relationship. Better than have an election based of if's but's and maybe with budgets on speculation of what might happen.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Bozo himself heckled in Rotherham today - told to get back to the HoC and do some work. Thought that was park Brexit country - or do they only get turned on by the BP?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-49687990/get-back-to-parliament-and-sort-it-out