PSG Owners may scale back investment due to Media criticism / (Allegedly for Sale After the World Cup - Pg 17))

[Parisian]

City tried working with uefa, so I guess that what you mean by “ in talks with him”.

The cartel have rounded on you, without a doubt, but more so now platini has gone. Coincidence?

I don’t want to piss on your chips, but platini has nothing to do with us.

It has to do with you and the same goes for Infantino according to the leaks.
It is said that both PSG owners and City owners discussed the sanctions they would agree to take for the settlement. Taking a pitch and all that stuff.

It is hilarious to me that when both club encounter the same problem, it is bent in one case and not bent in the other case according to you.

 

[Parisian]

There really is no point in ffp then is there. Whether PSG were 'cleared' or not that means nothing. Football is f@cking bent. I'm really on the verge. When shit****s like Bruce Buck call anyone outside the top six as the great unwashed you know it's f@cked.

How about you pick up your ball and f@ck off to your super league. It'll all end in tears and you'll be begging to come back.

I'm not aiming that at MCFC btw min think they know which side their breads buttered on.

Sorry, i don't understand what you are trying to say. Who is Bruce Buck ?
What does great unwashed mean ?

Well the FFP does help the cartel because it has restricted the immense capacity of investment of both owners. They can still do interesting signings and that is the reason why they try to stomp a bit more on both clubs. But without FFP, PSG would have signed a goalkeeper like Oblak a long time ago.
With the hard FFP they implemented in the first place, before it was soften for Milan clubs, you could do nothing of you didn't have invested before. PSG and City got "lucky" they could make that vital initial investment. Now both clubs are big brands, well established european clubs albeit underachieving in this competition. If we had come a little bit later, we would have been like Milan AC, always in a threat of a ban while not having a superb squad.

 

[chedinho]

It has to do with you and the same goes for Infantino according to the leaks.
It is said that both PSG owners and City owners discussed the sanctions they would agree to take for the settlement. Taking a pitch and all that stuff.

It is hilarious to me that when both club encounter the same problem, it is bent in one case and not bent in the other case according to you.

Same problem but different ways of getting there.
Platini is still bent and that’s what bothers me. Not whether or not, you spend more than you earn on players.

Platini is bent and was/is part of your club, that makes you different from us.

 

[Parisian]

Same problem but different ways of getting there.
Platini is still bent and that’s what bothers me. Not whether or not, you spend more than you earn on players.

Platini is bent and was/is part of your club, that makes you different from us.

If we spend more than we earn, so does City.
Platini was/is not part of PSG which makes us not different.
A reminder of the leaks : https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.fr...air-play-rules-platini-infantino-sarkozy-fifa

 

[Metalartin]

I would have thought they'd be looking at a club like Villa, who have longer and richer history than Leeds. A greater topflight pedigree, equally as large fanbase etc. I do consider Leeds a big club but football fans in general overrate their actual size and history.

From what I can tell looking at the history books they don't compare well historically to clubs like Villa, City and even Newcastle. They didn't even exist until 1919, formed to take vacant spot left by the disbanded Leeds City, elected to the league in 1920, didn't find a stable footing in the topflight until the 30s but then spent almost a decade in div2 again starting at the end of the 40s.

They were barely relevant until the mid 60s, started the 60s in div 2, promoted in 64 and came 2nd in the topflight in 65(How much was spent on that team? That's quite a fast turnaround for a newly promoted team), never won a UEFA recognised trophy, not even a Cup Winners Cup.

My point is why are they seen as this massive club, or even lauded over bigger clubs like City by some? For competing in the 90s or for having a good team in the late 60s? If that's all it takes then City have been done a "massive" disservice by a lot of fans over the years.

Yeah I don't like Leeds that much.

 

[Parisian]

I would have thought they'd be looking at a club like Villa, longer and richer history than Leeds, greater topflight pedigree, equally as large fanbase. I do consider Leeds a big club but football fans in general overrate their actual size and history.

From what I can tell looking at the history books they don't compare well historically to clubs like Villa, City and even Newcastle. They didn't even exist until 1919, formed to take vacant spot left by the disbanded Leeds City, elected to the league in 1920, didn't find a stable footing in the topflight until the 30s but then spent almost a decade in div2 again starting at the end of the 40s.

They were barely relevant until the mid 60s, started the 60s in div 2 promoted in 64 and came 2nd in the topflight in 65(how much was spent on that team?), never won a UEFA recognised trophy not even a Cup Winners Cup. Why are they seen as this massive club, or even lauded over bigger clubs like City by some? For competing in the 90s or for having a good team in the late 60s? If that's all it takes than City have been done a massive disservice by a lot of fans over the years.

Yeah I don't like Leeds that much.

Dunno much about them but they have existing relationship with Aspire Academy of Qatar.
Since Qatar is all about their WC, it makes sense they are into that club.

 

[BosnianBlue]

I would have thought they'd be looking at a club like Villa, who have longer and richer history than Leeds. A greater topflight pedigree, equally as large fanbase etc. I do consider Leeds a big club but football fans in general overrate their actual size and history.

From what I can tell looking at the history books they don't compare well historically to clubs like Villa, City and even Newcastle. They didn't even exist until 1919, formed to take vacant spot left by the disbanded Leeds City, elected to the league in 1920, didn't find a stable footing in the topflight until the 30s but then spent almost a decade in div2 again starting at the end of the 40s.

They were barely relevant until the mid 60s, started the 60s in div 2, promoted in 64 and came 2nd in the topflight in 65(How much was spent on that team? That's quite a fast turnaround for a newly promoted team), never won a UEFA recognised trophy, not even a Cup Winners Cup.

My point is why are they seen as this massive club, or even lauded over bigger clubs like City by some? For competing in the 90s or for having a good team in the late 60s? If that's all it takes then City have been done a "massive" disservice by a lot of fans over the years.

Yeah I don't like Leeds that much.

Investors don' give a flying fuck what was going on in 1919, 30 or 60s. They look at potential to make money compared to investment.

 

[Metalartin]

Dunno much about them but they have existing relationship with Aspire Academy of Qatar.
Since Qatar is all about their WC, it makes sense they are into that club.

I can actually see why they are being looked at from Qatars perspective, they are a big club. My point was in regards to the reaction to the news from the football world. In terms of history and stature, they are one of those clubs that get an easier ride than others(popular opinion among journos, pundits and fans) for reasons unknown.

 

[burning blue soul]

The political links are deep, especially with Sarkozy who is in the board members of our new sponsor ALL (Accor). Since they signed for a lot of money over three years, which puts us back to their World Cup in 2022, they are not moving anywhere before that.

You are correct. They will not leave psg before 2022 world cup. I do feel though that Qatar have used psg solely as a political bargaining tool.

edit: i would also conclude that the french government have also allowed psg to be used as a tool for their financial and political gain. its not all one sided this arrangement.

 

[Parisian]

You are correct. They will not leave psg before 2022 world cup. I do feel though that Qatar have used psg solely as a political bargaining tool.

Don't think the club has to complain.
We went from being under the very worst owner of our history that almost managed to make us going down in Ligue 2, which has never happened in our history, to being successful in the league, the national cups (well we were already specialist in that matter) and being relevant in Europe again (after our 5 consecutive european semi finals in the 90's ).
Sure, the fanbase is less good in the stadium than utiliser was 10 years ago but it has to do with the events that unfolded before the Qatar takeover (battle between rival fans of PSG, deaths, etc.).
The club will get a state of the art academy that pretty much no one can dream to build in France (and few in the world), they upgraded the stadium while it remains a property of Paris city, they pay a shit ton of taxes that benefit french people.
And the joy to see players of that quality is simply a gift. Some of them are straight up among some of our best players ever under our shirt like Zlatan, Neymar (Ronaldinho was good but didn't show enough at PSG during his time). Even the fans of our opponents hate us but like to see those players against their team in real life.

Sure, they are often doing a mess with the sporting director position but overall, they did a pretty solid job.
They took a club for 80 M and made it one of the biggest brands in the world while playing in a less exposed league and considered the hypest club in the world thanks to their collaboration with Jordan and co.

It is way better than what i had initially imagined. And we will be well off when they will decide hey have done enough.

And to be fair, they gueninely want to win the Champions League and back up their ambitions (Neymar, Mbappé). An owner that only care about winning, isn't that what any fan dream about ?