PSG readying an offer for Aguero? The Times

BillyShears said:
I like Di Marzio he obviously is very close to loads of agents and clubs. But he was also the guy who said Aubamayang was "very close" to City. I've seen all the United stories and for the moment I don't believe them.
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The quote about Fabinho being 'tempted by a Utd approach, was apparently a direct reply to a question as to whether he'd be interested if approached by Utd, not some idea he came up with.

He pretty much said they'd have to talk to the club & his agent & then he'd think about it: 'it would be tempting'.

Made it sound as if he was asking for a move there, which is typical.
 
karen7 said:
Because it's a free country,bye
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Where are you going?

Your post was completely out of touch with the discussion being had. Almost as if you didn't read the thread - just saw the title, and started angrily bashing your keyboard. Chill out, this is the TRANSFER forum. I know you can read - and the key is in the title.
 
Aguero will not leave this summer, but here is a hypothetical question, were you ready to trade between Aguero and Verratti? I think he is the perfect CM and DM for us
 
MCFC ISRAEL said:
Aguero will not leave this summer, but here is a hypothetical question, were you ready to trade between Aguero and Verratti? I think he is the perfect CM and DM for us
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In that hypothetical who replaces Kun? Because really the only way he can go anywhere is if there's a world class forward coming in to replace him.
 
domalino said:
So appreciate our current legends now because in the future all our best players will all want to go to Madrid?

Of all the reasons to not sell Aguero, I think that's got to be the most bizarre, like the class of Aguero, Silva and Zabaleta et al were one-off's. I can only assume it's some remnant of the small club mentality that doesn't realise that this last decade isn't a hiccup in City's history.

The fact is, really, if we're brutal about it and take emotion out of the equation, Aguero will come and go, even Silva will come and go and they'll be replaced with new legends and new world class players who spend 8-10 years of their careers here. They'll leave their own little bookmarks in City history, and fans will talk about them down the pub for decades, but they'll be replaced by others who will do the very same. This is how it is at big clubs.

Butrangueno gets replaced by Raul.

Raul gets replaced by Ronaldo.

Ronaldo gets replaced by Mbappé or whoever comes in next.

The same will happen here. Legends come and go and are replaced by new players who over time earn their own "legend" tag.

The idea that the Mancini crop will be the only loyal players we ever have, or that they buck the trend of modern football is laughable. The fact is that the best clubs in the world, who pay the best wages and win trophies always have "loyalty" from their best players.

That doesn't mean we don't appreciate players like Sergio, Merlin, Kompany, Yaya when they're here, because they're great players who've written history in a City shirt, but if your reason for keeping hold of them is "we'll never have players like them again" then you're either far too emotionally invested in specific players over the actual football club, or you're one of those blues who thinks we'll be back to mid table mediocrity in 5 years time.

I suppose this kind of reaction was inevitable as the first great post-takeover City side ended though, people aren't used to the idea of great teams being replaced by another, even better side. Chelsea had the same thing when Lampard, Drogba, Cole etc. left. We saw the beginning of it with Hart last year.


And I write all of this as someone who desperately wants Aguero to stay for 3 or 4 more years.
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I think you've taken this a little bit too literally and you've also not read it properly as I made the point that there is certainly a time for players to move on as was the case with Zabaleta.

Im not saying don't sell Aguero out of loyalty, I'm making the point that not only are the likes of Aguero loyal (which we under appreciate), they're still ****ing good players. Great players even who are good enough to make more history at the club.

People can throw stats at me all day but the most important stat is goals. He scored more goals than any other player in England last season across all comps and he scores more goals when he plays than any other player in the history of the Premier League.

You're right that Ronaldo will get replaced, but only when he is done. He's 32 now and is still Madrid's number one scorer, just like Aguero is ours.

Players like Scholes, Giggs, Ronaldo, Xavi don't get forced out at the peak of their powers at clubs like Utd, Barca and Real. They get treated with the respect their quality and history deserves.

Real aren't going to be like 'Bye Ronaldo, you're still great but we've bought a new young guy in to replace you immediately and now you'll be sold".

I think you've approached this too headstrong, without really understanding the concept of what I'm saying.

There is a right way to do these things and the personality and history of these players can be just as important that their quality on the field. Attitudes and personas build the foundations of a successful dressing room, which is a reason we're on the verge of bringing in a player like Alves. He might be old but he'll bring some great experiences to the club and hopefully it will rub off on others.

Passing the torch in football isn't fucking someone off and bringing in someone new. It's about that cross over period and getting that rub as you transition into a new era. Transition being the most important word in all of this.
 
MCFC ISRAEL said:
Aguero will not leave this summer, but here is a hypothetical question, were you ready to trade between Aguero and Verratti? I think he is the perfect CM and DM for us
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Verratti is a brilliant player, but even though I usually laugh off people who complain about not having big players, I can't shake the idea that Verratti at 5'5" is just too small to be a pivot in the premier league. Premier league clubs just knock the ball up to their strikers/ attacking midfielders so much here, and having a guy as small as that would mean a CB always has to push out of the line to challenge for the ball, instantly putting us in a bad shape. I think even Pep mentioned needing some bigger players to cope with West From influencing his selection in a press conference this season.

When you think about it, even PSG play him with 2 big men to compensate in Matuidi and Motta, he's never the guy at the base of the midfield.

That doesn't mean he couldn't play here, just not as a sole pivot/DM.
 
Bill said:
Oh so let's sell him then and watch him go on and knocks us out of the CL at some point.

I don't think so.

From day one the media over here have hated the fact we have the world's best striker in our ranks. Nothing would please them more to get their wish. Regardless of who we replaced him with we would be weaker.
The time will come course it will but it isn't yet. Sanchez isn't as good and Jesus is just a boy. Aguero is an assassin and we need him.
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It seems like the only ones who don't rate Aguero are our fans. Joe was a mistake, Kompany was about to be a mistake (but he recovered in time to prove Pep and his own fans wrong), but Aguero would be the biggest mistake in our history. This topic lets me speechless.
 
ManCityX said:
I think you've taken this a little bit too literally and you've also not read it properly as I made the point that there is certainly a time for players to move on as was the case with Zabaleta.

Im not saying don't sell Aguero out of loyalty, I'm making the point that not only are the likes of Aguero loyal (which we under appreciate), they're still ****ing good players. Great players even who are good enough to make more history at the club.

People can throw stats at me all day but the most important stat is goals. He scored more goals than any other player in England last season across all comps and he scores more goals when he plays than any other player in the history of the Premier League.

You're right that Ronaldo will get replaced, but only when he is done. He's 32 now and is still Madrid's number one scorer, just like Aguero is ours.

Players like Scholes, Giggs, Ronaldo, Xavi don't get forced out at the peak of their powers at clubs like Utd, Barca and Real. They get treated with the respect their quality and history deserves.

Real aren't going to be like 'Bye Ronaldo, you're still great but we've bought a new young guy in to replace you immediately and now you'll be sold".

I think you've approached this too headstrong, without really understanding the concept of what I'm saying.
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Nobody's forcing anyone anywhere. I really don't understand what your point is or why you keep referring to 'respect'.
 
rapidCT said:
It seems like the only ones who don't rate Aguero are our fans. Joe was a mistake, Kompany was about to be a mistake (but he recovered in time to prove Pep and his own fans wrong), but Aguero would be the biggest mistake in our history. This topic lets me speechless.
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Joe was a mistake? Have you seen him lately?
 
rapidCT said:
It seems like the only ones who don't rate Aguero are our fans. Joe was a mistake, Kompany was about to be a mistake (but he recovered in time to prove Pep and his own fans wrong), but Aguero would be the biggest mistake in our history. This topic lets me speechless.
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Joe wasn't a mistake at all.

Komoany and Aguero are still here, so you're left with no point.

Maybe try being speechless.
 
BillyShears said:
Nobody's forcing anyone anywhere. I really don't understand what your point is or why you keep referring to 'respect'.
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Luckily that's true with the club and why our chairman is absolutely instant that our future greatest ever goal scorer will not be sold in his prime years.

I just believe monopoly money has made people lose all sense of reality and passion.

A bit like a rich celebrity who can never settle down with a single woman because they know they can go out and get a replacement at the drop of a hat.
 
rapidCT said:
It seems like the only ones who don't rate Aguero are our fans. Joe was a mistake, Kompany was about to be a mistake (but he recovered in time to prove Pep and his own fans wrong), but Aguero would be the biggest mistake in our history. This topic lets me speechless.
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Not sure what City fans you knock about with but I've never met one that doesn't rate Aguero.
 
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