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I found out yesterday a high school classmate of mine committed suicide. I wish I could say he's the first person I know who did this but he's not and it's a real shame. I thought it would be nice in his memory to post something in case a Blue Mooner is struggling. You have to know that people care about you and that there is no shame in asking for help. Nobody is alone in this world and there are always people who are willing to listen and help. It doesn't have to be a family member or even a close friend, you can talk to a stranger if you have to.

Peace and love.
 
I had a breakdown back in March 2020 after a civil legal case brought against my family ran on and on. We won but then the other party refused to pay up etc. I’ve been on 20mg Citalopram daily since then. The stress of that plus a forced move away because of it pushed me over the edge.

I got far worse before I got better (18 hours sleep a day, anxiety attacks, no appetite, weight loss) but eventually improved. When I sold our family owned house in London I was able to take time off and recover fully during lockdown. I didn’t work for almost a year and that was great.

After I got myself back together, bowel cancer decided to come along… Thankfully an op and treatment sorted it and I hope to get the ileostomy reversed at some point. I’m back in the specialist hospital on Thursday.

A couple of boring years with nothing happening would be just great.
 
I met someone I used to work with for lunch today. She had just had a weekly 30minute call with an elderly person via Age UK.

You don’t meet the person or share details but it is a regular weekly call. Good way of doing something meaningful just by speaking to someone who may be lonely or on their own.
 
If you know anyone who might be struggling, reach out to them yourself rather than waiting for them to reach out.

For many people suffering mentally, the biggest dread in life could be plucking up the courage and motivation to talk to someone about it. But if they know someone is already there for them, it can make it easier.
 
Been helping 2 friends out last few months. Got phone call of the last person I expected to say needs help as really down and depressed, can't speak to his wife as she suffers from depression. Took redundancy from job he'd been in for over 30 years and now misses it. In his 3rd job since and moved away from where he had friends, played football twice a week etc. Got him through the first initial few days. He's been to see GP, spoken to his wife and we chat every few days. Other one took redundancy 2 years ago and not worked since. I take him for lunch and few pints once a month Did reference for new job which he started yesterday. No friends separated from his wife. We all worked together and had fantastic banter now group of us all split up and I'm only one left in old job. DMs always open anyone wants to chat, cry, rant, laugh etc just shout folks. Sometimes easier to talk to a stranger.
 
Don’t know if this is the right thread, and I’ve no one to talk to about this, and it’s a bit of a ramble probably.

I’m an older dad, my son is 12 and completely off the rails. He has been difficult since a traumatic birth, his mother then had very bad post natal depression, and struggled to breast feed him and care for him, though she did her best, whilst also looking after our daughter. Each year we thought he’d mature a little, and his behaviour would improve, but he hasn’t. We divorced a few years ago. He spends his time between both houses, but mostly stays at mine. He has been assessed for autism, but scored very low, though the autism team said there is something, but they don’t know what. We are awaiting results from his ADHD assessment.

We saw the educational psychologist at school last week, and should have an EHCP in place soon, we have waited years for it. He is on a 16 week plan at school, and is failing it and in all likelihood will be permanently excluded this term.

He can be violent towards staff and students, his language is appalling, and he recently battered his mum. She is no longer physically able to control him, he is stronger than her and will just force his way out of the house. He kicked a girl in the face because she got ketchup on his coat. He has been involved in numerous physical assaults on other students at school. He is a bully. The police have been round numerous times. I can still manage him, but I know it’s only a matter of time before he physically assaults me. I have had to pin him down on his bed to calm him down before now as he has been in such a rage. He has called Childline on me, though they saw through it, and my daughter was here as well, she knew he was making stuff up.

He has verbally abused me tonight, called me every name under the sun, a ****, a fat old bastard, paedophile, go kill yourself etc, really bad stuff. I lost it with him and called him stuff back, I shouldn’t have done but I’ve had 12 years of it and can’t take much more. There are times when I just want him gone from my house, my life. He is regularly suspended from school, and removed from lessons, runs down the corridor kicking doors and disturbing other lessons. He hasn’t learned anything academically this school year. He was bad at primary school, but we thought high school would be a new start. It’s been an abject failure. He refuses point blank to do his homework and gets detention after detention. He does little or no work in class, either just rests his head on the desk, or deliberately gets himself thrown out of class. The head of year has really tried with him, but only the other week he told her to “fuck off you fat bitch” amongst other things. He called a female teacher a kiddy fiddler last week. He has an LSA with him all the time. He knows he is on his way out of school but isn’t phased at all.

He has no joy in him, doesn’t smile or laugh much, and I don’t enjoy spending time with him these days. I took him to Wembley yesterday, and a mate of mine who was sat a few rows behind us, came over to him at the end of the match and said you don’t get excited by football these days. He was playing football at quite a high level but just gave up earlier this year and hasn’t kicked a ball since. He seems drawn to trouble and bad behaviour. I caught him vaping in bed. He steals money from his mum.

I know his mum struggles to handle him, and I’m getting the same way. I just don’t think this situation is good for any of us, especially him. CAHMS, MASH, and social services are involved but everything is so slow and nothing is working.

I can only see a really bleak future for him. I have put so much effort into him, we used to do everything together, often at the expense of spending time with my daughter, but we don’t have any real relationship now. I feel I’ve failed as a dad, but have been pushed to my limits and can’t do anymore for him.

If things don’t improve I don’t think I can go on like this, my work is suffering, I don’t eat properly, I don’t do much of anything really, it’s just a constant worry. He isn’t interested in anything, has no hobbies. He’s only a boy, just 12 years old, but his future looks so bleak, and I don’t think I can do anything to help. It’s a nightmare, day after day I get calls from school asking me to come and get him as he has done something bad, and I have to leave work and go and collect him. He never apologises, has no remorse, nor empathy for anyone. I know I’m failing him, I’ve tried so hard. I don’t know what to do anymore to help him and stop him spiralling down this path he is on. If I try to talk to him he literally covers his ears and shouts until I give up. Me and his mother are unable to talk about it as it just ends up a shouting match.

Apologies for the rant, but there’s no one I can talk to about this.
 
Don’t know if this is the right thread, and I’ve no one to talk to about this, and it’s a bit of a ramble probably.

I’m an older dad, my son is 12 and completely off the rails. He has been difficult since a traumatic birth, his mother then had very bad post natal depression, and struggled to breast feed him and care for him, though she did her best, whilst also looking after our daughter. Each year we thought he’d mature a little, and his behaviour would improve, but he hasn’t. We divorced a few years ago. He spends his time between both houses, but mostly stays at mine. He has been assessed for autism, but scored very low, though the autism team said there is something, but they don’t know what. We are awaiting results from his ADHD assessment.

We saw the educational psychologist at school last week, and should have an EHCP in place soon, we have waited years for it. He is on a 16 week plan at school, and is failing it and in all likelihood will be permanently excluded this term.

He can be violent towards staff and students, his language is appalling, and he recently battered his mum. She is no longer physically able to control him, he is stronger than her and will just force his way out of the house. He kicked a girl in the face because she got ketchup on his coat. He has been involved in numerous physical assaults on other students at school. He is a bully. The police have been round numerous times. I can still manage him, but I know it’s only a matter of time before he physically assaults me. I have had to pin him down on his bed to calm him down before now as he has been in such a rage. He has called Childline on me, though they saw through it, and my daughter was here as well, she knew he was making stuff up.

He has verbally abused me tonight, called me every name under the sun, a ****, a fat old bastard, paedophile, go kill yourself etc, really bad stuff. I lost it with him and called him stuff back, I shouldn’t have done but I’ve had 12 years of it and can’t take much more. There are times when I just want him gone from my house, my life. He is regularly suspended from school, and removed from lessons, runs down the corridor kicking doors and disturbing other lessons. He hasn’t learned anything academically this school year. He was bad at primary school, but we thought high school would be a new start. It’s been an abject failure. He refuses point blank to do his homework and gets detention after detention. He does little or no work in class, either just rests his head on the desk, or deliberately gets himself thrown out of class. The head of year has really tried with him, but only the other week he told her to “fuck off you fat bitch” amongst other things. He called a female teacher a kiddy fiddler last week. He has an LSA with him all the time. He knows he is on his way out of school but isn’t phased at all.

He has no joy in him, doesn’t smile or laugh much, and I don’t enjoy spending time with him these days. I took him to Wembley yesterday, and a mate of mine who was sat a few rows behind us, came over to him at the end of the match and said you don’t get excited by football these days. He was playing football at quite a high level but just gave up earlier this year and hasn’t kicked a ball since. He seems drawn to trouble and bad behaviour. I caught him vaping in bed. He steals money from his mum.

I know his mum struggles to handle him, and I’m getting the same way. I just don’t think this situation is good for any of us, especially him. CAHMS, MASH, and social services are involved but everything is so slow and nothing is working.

I can only see a really bleak future for him. I have put so much effort into him, we used to do everything together, often at the expense of spending time with my daughter, but we don’t have any real relationship now. I feel I’ve failed as a dad, but have been pushed to my limits and can’t do anymore for him.

If things don’t improve I don’t think I can go on like this, my work is suffering, I don’t eat properly, I don’t do much of anything really, it’s just a constant worry. He isn’t interested in anything, has no hobbies. He’s only a boy, just 12 years old, but his future looks so bleak, and I don’t think I can do anything to help. It’s a nightmare, day after day I get calls from school asking me to come and get him as he has done something bad, and I have to leave work and go and collect him. He never apologises, has no remorse, nor empathy for anyone. I know I’m failing him, I’ve tried so hard. I don’t know what to do anymore to help him and stop him spiralling down this path he is on. If I try to talk to him he literally covers his ears and shouts until I give up. Me and his mother are unable to talk about it as it just ends up a shouting match.

Apologies for the rant, but there’s no one I can talk to about this.

Awful situation for you to be in mate, I have a family member who went through the same thing with her daughter, use to beat fuck out of her mum dropped out of school ect. She's nearly 20 now and matured on her own but only this past year or so.

I ain't an arm chair psychiatrist so won't even try, just make sure you're looking after yourself and your daughter too, can't let your relationship with one child affect it with your other.

Something is troubling him and making him angry and miserable by the sounds of it, doesn't value education as he doesn't care for his future.

Hope you both get the help you need.
 
Don’t know if this is the right thread, and I’ve no one to talk to about this, and it’s a bit of a ramble probably.

I’m an older dad, my son is 12 and completely off the rails. He has been difficult since a traumatic birth, his mother then had very bad post natal depression, and struggled to breast feed him and care for him, though she did her best, whilst also looking after our daughter. Each year we thought he’d mature a little, and his behaviour would improve, but he hasn’t. We divorced a few years ago. He spends his time between both houses, but mostly stays at mine. He has been assessed for autism, but scored very low, though the autism team said there is something, but they don’t know what. We are awaiting results from his ADHD assessment.

We saw the educational psychologist at school last week, and should have an EHCP in place soon, we have waited years for it. He is on a 16 week plan at school, and is failing it and in all likelihood will be permanently excluded this term.

He can be violent towards staff and students, his language is appalling, and he recently battered his mum. She is no longer physically able to control him, he is stronger than her and will just force his way out of the house. He kicked a girl in the face because she got ketchup on his coat. He has been involved in numerous physical assaults on other students at school. He is a bully. The police have been round numerous times. I can still manage him, but I know it’s only a matter of time before he physically assaults me. I have had to pin him down on his bed to calm him down before now as he has been in such a rage. He has called Childline on me, though they saw through it, and my daughter was here as well, she knew he was making stuff up.

He has verbally abused me tonight, called me every name under the sun, a ****, a fat old bastard, paedophile, go kill yourself etc, really bad stuff. I lost it with him and called him stuff back, I shouldn’t have done but I’ve had 12 years of it and can’t take much more. There are times when I just want him gone from my house, my life. He is regularly suspended from school, and removed from lessons, runs down the corridor kicking doors and disturbing other lessons. He hasn’t learned anything academically this school year. He was bad at primary school, but we thought high school would be a new start. It’s been an abject failure. He refuses point blank to do his homework and gets detention after detention. He does little or no work in class, either just rests his head on the desk, or deliberately gets himself thrown out of class. The head of year has really tried with him, but only the other week he told her to “fuck off you fat bitch” amongst other things. He called a female teacher a kiddy fiddler last week. He has an LSA with him all the time. He knows he is on his way out of school but isn’t phased at all.

He has no joy in him, doesn’t smile or laugh much, and I don’t enjoy spending time with him these days. I took him to Wembley yesterday, and a mate of mine who was sat a few rows behind us, came over to him at the end of the match and said you don’t get excited by football these days. He was playing football at quite a high level but just gave up earlier this year and hasn’t kicked a ball since. He seems drawn to trouble and bad behaviour. I caught him vaping in bed. He steals money from his mum.

I know his mum struggles to handle him, and I’m getting the same way. I just don’t think this situation is good for any of us, especially him. CAHMS, MASH, and social services are involved but everything is so slow and nothing is working.

I can only see a really bleak future for him. I have put so much effort into him, we used to do everything together, often at the expense of spending time with my daughter, but we don’t have any real relationship now. I feel I’ve failed as a dad, but have been pushed to my limits and can’t do anymore for him.

If things don’t improve I don’t think I can go on like this, my work is suffering, I don’t eat properly, I don’t do much of anything really, it’s just a constant worry. He isn’t interested in anything, has no hobbies. He’s only a boy, just 12 years old, but his future looks so bleak, and I don’t think I can do anything to help. It’s a nightmare, day after day I get calls from school asking me to come and get him as he has done something bad, and I have to leave work and go and collect him. He never apologises, has no remorse, nor empathy for anyone. I know I’m failing him, I’ve tried so hard. I don’t know what to do anymore to help him and stop him spiralling down this path he is on. If I try to talk to him he literally covers his ears and shouts until I give up. Me and his mother are unable to talk about it as it just ends up a shouting match.

Apologies for the rant, but there’s no one I can talk to about this.
Such a sad read mate, hopefully you both get help needed. Make sure take care of rest of family (including yourself). Is there not a school which specialises in kids with autism or ADHD he could attend. I know someone who had similar situation (maybe not quite as bad) and the lad started a school which was aimed at kids struggling in school. Lad doing ok now and just did his exams last year. Good luck with it mate
 
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Don’t know if this is the right thread, and I’ve no one to talk to about this, and it’s a bit of a ramble probably.

I’m an older dad, my son is 12 and completely off the rails. He has been difficult since a traumatic birth, his mother then had very bad post natal depression, and struggled to breast feed him and care for him, though she did her best, whilst also looking after our daughter. Each year we thought he’d mature a little, and his behaviour would improve, but he hasn’t. We divorced a few years ago. He spends his time between both houses, but mostly stays at mine. He has been assessed for autism, but scored very low, though the autism team said there is something, but they don’t know what. We are awaiting results from his ADHD assessment.

We saw the educational psychologist at school last week, and should have an EHCP in place soon, we have waited years for it. He is on a 16 week plan at school, and is failing it and in all likelihood will be permanently excluded this term.

He can be violent towards staff and students, his language is appalling, and he recently battered his mum. She is no longer physically able to control him, he is stronger than her and will just force his way out of the house. He kicked a girl in the face because she got ketchup on his coat. He has been involved in numerous physical assaults on other students at school. He is a bully. The police have been round numerous times. I can still manage him, but I know it’s only a matter of time before he physically assaults me. I have had to pin him down on his bed to calm him down before now as he has been in such a rage. He has called Childline on me, though they saw through it, and my daughter was here as well, she knew he was making stuff up.

He has verbally abused me tonight, called me every name under the sun, a ****, a fat old bastard, paedophile, go kill yourself etc, really bad stuff. I lost it with him and called him stuff back, I shouldn’t have done but I’ve had 12 years of it and can’t take much more. There are times when I just want him gone from my house, my life. He is regularly suspended from school, and removed from lessons, runs down the corridor kicking doors and disturbing other lessons. He hasn’t learned anything academically this school year. He was bad at primary school, but we thought high school would be a new start. It’s been an abject failure. He refuses point blank to do his homework and gets detention after detention. He does little or no work in class, either just rests his head on the desk, or deliberately gets himself thrown out of class. The head of year has really tried with him, but only the other week he told her to “fuck off you fat bitch” amongst other things. He called a female teacher a kiddy fiddler last week. He has an LSA with him all the time. He knows he is on his way out of school but isn’t phased at all.

He has no joy in him, doesn’t smile or laugh much, and I don’t enjoy spending time with him these days. I took him to Wembley yesterday, and a mate of mine who was sat a few rows behind us, came over to him at the end of the match and said you don’t get excited by football these days. He was playing football at quite a high level but just gave up earlier this year and hasn’t kicked a ball since. He seems drawn to trouble and bad behaviour. I caught him vaping in bed. He steals money from his mum.

I know his mum struggles to handle him, and I’m getting the same way. I just don’t think this situation is good for any of us, especially him. CAHMS, MASH, and social services are involved but everything is so slow and nothing is working.

I can only see a really bleak future for him. I have put so much effort into him, we used to do everything together, often at the expense of spending time with my daughter, but we don’t have any real relationship now. I feel I’ve failed as a dad, but have been pushed to my limits and can’t do anymore for him.

If things don’t improve I don’t think I can go on like this, my work is suffering, I don’t eat properly, I don’t do much of anything really, it’s just a constant worry. He isn’t interested in anything, has no hobbies. He’s only a boy, just 12 years old, but his future looks so bleak, and I don’t think I can do anything to help. It’s a nightmare, day after day I get calls from school asking me to come and get him as he has done something bad, and I have to leave work and go and collect him. He never apologises, has no remorse, nor empathy for anyone. I know I’m failing him, I’ve tried so hard. I don’t know what to do anymore to help him and stop him spiralling down this path he is on. If I try to talk to him he literally covers his ears and shouts until I give up. Me and his mother are unable to talk about it as it just ends up a shouting match.

Apologies for the rant, but there’s no one I can talk to about this.
Firstly, no need to apologise. And secondly none of this is your fault. You ARE NOT failing him.

It sounds like ADHD is a strong shout. I hope you get a positive outcome from the assessment it that at least you know what the problem is. Your story sounds very much like my old boss (I've spoken about him before as he suffers from serious PTSD). He has a child who is on the autistic spectrum and suffers from ADHD. He ended up on medication which helped massively. It takes a while to get the doses right, but it's worth the effort. I really hope you get some answers.
 
I have Asperger’s. I was finally diagnosed at 30 which saw a huge number of things change. I don’t tend to tell people unless my quirks are going to cause an issue. I don’t mix well, I have routines and set interests too. I’ve got much better but it still holds me back a little.
 
Don’t know if this is the right thread, and I’ve no one to talk to about this, and it’s a bit of a ramble probably.

I’m an older dad, my son is 12 and completely off the rails. He has been difficult since a traumatic birth, his mother then had very bad post natal depression, and struggled to breast feed him and care for him, though she did her best, whilst also looking after our daughter. Each year we thought he’d mature a little, and his behaviour would improve, but he hasn’t. We divorced a few years ago. He spends his time between both houses, but mostly stays at mine. He has been assessed for autism, but scored very low, though the autism team said there is something, but they don’t know what. We are awaiting results from his ADHD assessment.

We saw the educational psychologist at school last week, and should have an EHCP in place soon, we have waited years for it. He is on a 16 week plan at school, and is failing it and in all likelihood will be permanently excluded this term.

He can be violent towards staff and students, his language is appalling, and he recently battered his mum. She is no longer physically able to control him, he is stronger than her and will just force his way out of the house. He kicked a girl in the face because she got ketchup on his coat. He has been involved in numerous physical assaults on other students at school. He is a bully. The police have been round numerous times. I can still manage him, but I know it’s only a matter of time before he physically assaults me. I have had to pin him down on his bed to calm him down before now as he has been in such a rage. He has called Childline on me, though they saw through it, and my daughter was here as well, she knew he was making stuff up.

He has verbally abused me tonight, called me every name under the sun, a ****, a fat old bastard, paedophile, go kill yourself etc, really bad stuff. I lost it with him and called him stuff back, I shouldn’t have done but I’ve had 12 years of it and can’t take much more. There are times when I just want him gone from my house, my life. He is regularly suspended from school, and removed from lessons, runs down the corridor kicking doors and disturbing other lessons. He hasn’t learned anything academically this school year. He was bad at primary school, but we thought high school would be a new start. It’s been an abject failure. He refuses point blank to do his homework and gets detention after detention. He does little or no work in class, either just rests his head on the desk, or deliberately gets himself thrown out of class. The head of year has really tried with him, but only the other week he told her to “fuck off you fat bitch” amongst other things. He called a female teacher a kiddy fiddler last week. He has an LSA with him all the time. He knows he is on his way out of school but isn’t phased at all.

He has no joy in him, doesn’t smile or laugh much, and I don’t enjoy spending time with him these days. I took him to Wembley yesterday, and a mate of mine who was sat a few rows behind us, came over to him at the end of the match and said you don’t get excited by football these days. He was playing football at quite a high level but just gave up earlier this year and hasn’t kicked a ball since. He seems drawn to trouble and bad behaviour. I caught him vaping in bed. He steals money from his mum.

I know his mum struggles to handle him, and I’m getting the same way. I just don’t think this situation is good for any of us, especially him. CAHMS, MASH, and social services are involved but everything is so slow and nothing is working.

I can only see a really bleak future for him. I have put so much effort into him, we used to do everything together, often at the expense of spending time with my daughter, but we don’t have any real relationship now. I feel I’ve failed as a dad, but have been pushed to my limits and can’t do anymore for him.

If things don’t improve I don’t think I can go on like this, my work is suffering, I don’t eat properly, I don’t do much of anything really, it’s just a constant worry. He isn’t interested in anything, has no hobbies. He’s only a boy, just 12 years old, but his future looks so bleak, and I don’t think I can do anything to help. It’s a nightmare, day after day I get calls from school asking me to come and get him as he has done something bad, and I have to leave work and go and collect him. He never apologises, has no remorse, nor empathy for anyone. I know I’m failing him, I’ve tried so hard. I don’t know what to do anymore to help him and stop him spiralling down this path he is on. If I try to talk to him he literally covers his ears and shouts until I give up. Me and his mother are unable to talk about it as it just ends up a shouting match.

Apologies for the rant, but there’s no one I can talk to about this.
I really feel for you mate
Firstly do not blame yourself,you sound like a great father and a good person so please don’t think that it is your fault
I’m no child psychologist or behavioural expert but I’ve run lads football teams and got my own teenage son and two teenage step sons so do know a little about how young lads act
Is there any way you can take him to a boxing club or a martial arts club where your son can learn to box or learn karate or MMA,keep himself fit,get rid of some of that aggression and gradually learn to be respectful of other people and himself
I know it doesn’t work for all but god willing it would work for your son
I really feel for you and your son and pray to God you can turn a corner and see an improvement
Feel free to private message me anytime as I’ve got a good set of ears for listening
Best wishes
 
Don’t know if this is the right thread, and I’ve no one to talk to about this, and it’s a bit of a ramble probably.

I’m an older dad, my son is 12 and completely off the rails. He has been difficult since a traumatic birth, his mother then had very bad post natal depression, and struggled to breast feed him and care for him, though she did her best, whilst also looking after our daughter. Each year we thought he’d mature a little, and his behaviour would improve, but he hasn’t. We divorced a few years ago. He spends his time between both houses, but mostly stays at mine. He has been assessed for autism, but scored very low, though the autism team said there is something, but they don’t know what. We are awaiting results from his ADHD assessment.

We saw the educational psychologist at school last week, and should have an EHCP in place soon, we have waited years for it. He is on a 16 week plan at school, and is failing it and in all likelihood will be permanently excluded this term.

He can be violent towards staff and students, his language is appalling, and he recently battered his mum. She is no longer physically able to control him, he is stronger than her and will just force his way out of the house. He kicked a girl in the face because she got ketchup on his coat. He has been involved in numerous physical assaults on other students at school. He is a bully. The police have been round numerous times. I can still manage him, but I know it’s only a matter of time before he physically assaults me. I have had to pin him down on his bed to calm him down before now as he has been in such a rage. He has called Childline on me, though they saw through it, and my daughter was here as well, she knew he was making stuff up.

He has verbally abused me tonight, called me every name under the sun, a ****, a fat old bastard, paedophile, go kill yourself etc, really bad stuff. I lost it with him and called him stuff back, I shouldn’t have done but I’ve had 12 years of it and can’t take much more. There are times when I just want him gone from my house, my life. He is regularly suspended from school, and removed from lessons, runs down the corridor kicking doors and disturbing other lessons. He hasn’t learned anything academically this school year. He was bad at primary school, but we thought high school would be a new start. It’s been an abject failure. He refuses point blank to do his homework and gets detention after detention. He does little or no work in class, either just rests his head on the desk, or deliberately gets himself thrown out of class. The head of year has really tried with him, but only the other week he told her to “fuck off you fat bitch” amongst other things. He called a female teacher a kiddy fiddler last week. He has an LSA with him all the time. He knows he is on his way out of school but isn’t phased at all.

He has no joy in him, doesn’t smile or laugh much, and I don’t enjoy spending time with him these days. I took him to Wembley yesterday, and a mate of mine who was sat a few rows behind us, came over to him at the end of the match and said you don’t get excited by football these days. He was playing football at quite a high level but just gave up earlier this year and hasn’t kicked a ball since. He seems drawn to trouble and bad behaviour. I caught him vaping in bed. He steals money from his mum.

I know his mum struggles to handle him, and I’m getting the same way. I just don’t think this situation is good for any of us, especially him. CAHMS, MASH, and social services are involved but everything is so slow and nothing is working.

I can only see a really bleak future for him. I have put so much effort into him, we used to do everything together, often at the expense of spending time with my daughter, but we don’t have any real relationship now. I feel I’ve failed as a dad, but have been pushed to my limits and can’t do anymore for him.

If things don’t improve I don’t think I can go on like this, my work is suffering, I don’t eat properly, I don’t do much of anything really, it’s just a constant worry. He isn’t interested in anything, has no hobbies. He’s only a boy, just 12 years old, but his future looks so bleak, and I don’t think I can do anything to help. It’s a nightmare, day after day I get calls from school asking me to come and get him as he has done something bad, and I have to leave work and go and collect him. He never apologises, has no remorse, nor empathy for anyone. I know I’m failing him, I’ve tried so hard. I don’t know what to do anymore to help him and stop him spiralling down this path he is on. If I try to talk to him he literally covers his ears and shouts until I give up. Me and his mother are unable to talk about it as it just ends up a shouting match.

Apologies for the rant, but there’s no one I can talk to about this.
Don't apologise @Big Joe Corrigan you are obviously doing your very best. As @ob has asked, has no one in the education services suggested help from one of the specialist schools or units. I'm not sure which LA you are with but there should be some help from them. I see that he is waiting for an EHCP just keep pushing the LA for that, it can be hard.

I hope that you all get some help very soon, it must be heart breaking when you feel you can't do anything more and you are in despair. The very best of luck. Take care.
 
In summer 2021, I found myself again, and felt in top of the world. By around my birthday (just before Halloween), and in early November I felt so low. I was at a real low ebb and struggled to get back on with it all. I felt trapped in a cycle of pain and worry. With the support of my then girlfriend, I climbed out.

Sadly after breaking my foot, I had a similar episode in 2022. I was lucky, I spoke with the girl I was seeing. She stayed by my bed in hospital and stayed with me after I was out. She stuck by me and encouraged me. She pushed me to talk to close friends. I did. I carried on writing and tried to outlet it through acton28.blog. I still do. I have moments of regret and worry but talking and writing, and finding things to always look forward to, really add hope. Now I am a father, husband and try to post only positive, uplifting or good vibes on social media, Blue Moon forum etc. I don't want to be drawn into internet cack and debate. I do keep my opinion and I respect others. I do my best to ignore the bobbins out there. The world is an amazing place. I look forward to the next Abuji Cuo and the next moment with my baby son Indigo Vincent.

Stay positive.

Peace and love.​
 
Don’t know if this is the right thread, and I’ve no one to talk to about this, and it’s a bit of a ramble probably.

I’m an older dad, my son is 12 and completely off the rails. He has been difficult since a traumatic birth, his mother then had very bad post natal depression, and struggled to breast feed him and care for him, though she did her best, whilst also looking after our daughter. Each year we thought he’d mature a little, and his behaviour would improve, but he hasn’t. We divorced a few years ago. He spends his time between both houses, but mostly stays at mine. He has been assessed for autism, but scored very low, though the autism team said there is something, but they don’t know what. We are awaiting results from his ADHD assessment.

We saw the educational psychologist at school last week, and should have an EHCP in place soon, we have waited years for it. He is on a 16 week plan at school, and is failing it and in all likelihood will be permanently excluded this term.

He can be violent towards staff and students, his language is appalling, and he recently battered his mum. She is no longer physically able to control him, he is stronger than her and will just force his way out of the house. He kicked a girl in the face because she got ketchup on his coat. He has been involved in numerous physical assaults on other students at school. He is a bully. The police have been round numerous times. I can still manage him, but I know it’s only a matter of time before he physically assaults me. I have had to pin him down on his bed to calm him down before now as he has been in such a rage. He has called Childline on me, though they saw through it, and my daughter was here as well, she knew he was making stuff up.

He has verbally abused me tonight, called me every name under the sun, a ****, a fat old bastard, paedophile, go kill yourself etc, really bad stuff. I lost it with him and called him stuff back, I shouldn’t have done but I’ve had 12 years of it and can’t take much more. There are times when I just want him gone from my house, my life. He is regularly suspended from school, and removed from lessons, runs down the corridor kicking doors and disturbing other lessons. He hasn’t learned anything academically this school year. He was bad at primary school, but we thought high school would be a new start. It’s been an abject failure. He refuses point blank to do his homework and gets detention after detention. He does little or no work in class, either just rests his head on the desk, or deliberately gets himself thrown out of class. The head of year has really tried with him, but only the other week he told her to “fuck off you fat bitch” amongst other things. He called a female teacher a kiddy fiddler last week. He has an LSA with him all the time. He knows he is on his way out of school but isn’t phased at all.

He has no joy in him, doesn’t smile or laugh much, and I don’t enjoy spending time with him these days. I took him to Wembley yesterday, and a mate of mine who was sat a few rows behind us, came over to him at the end of the match and said you don’t get excited by football these days. He was playing football at quite a high level but just gave up earlier this year and hasn’t kicked a ball since. He seems drawn to trouble and bad behaviour. I caught him vaping in bed. He steals money from his mum.

I know his mum struggles to handle him, and I’m getting the same way. I just don’t think this situation is good for any of us, especially him. CAHMS, MASH, and social services are involved but everything is so slow and nothing is working.

I can only see a really bleak future for him. I have put so much effort into him, we used to do everything together, often at the expense of spending time with my daughter, but we don’t have any real relationship now. I feel I’ve failed as a dad, but have been pushed to my limits and can’t do anymore for him.

If things don’t improve I don’t think I can go on like this, my work is suffering, I don’t eat properly, I don’t do much of anything really, it’s just a constant worry. He isn’t interested in anything, has no hobbies. He’s only a boy, just 12 years old, but his future looks so bleak, and I don’t think I can do anything to help. It’s a nightmare, day after day I get calls from school asking me to come and get him as he has done something bad, and I have to leave work and go and collect him. He never apologises, has no remorse, nor empathy for anyone. I know I’m failing him, I’ve tried so hard. I don’t know what to do anymore to help him and stop him spiralling down this path he is on. If I try to talk to him he literally covers his ears and shouts until I give up. Me and his mother are unable to talk about it as it just ends up a shouting match.

Apologies for the rant, but there’s no one I can talk to about this.
Saddened to read that - is he on any medication?
He sounds similar to my step son although not as aggressive.
Once he left middle school (which he rarely went to) his attendance at high school was worse. We had a few meetings with the school but reality was they weren't interested and happy to have him off the books so he didn't mess up their grade averages.
He'd be at home all day and by 15 / 16 smoking dope in his room.
Hardly had any friends and along with his sister (older) with bipolar, they competed for their mum's attention by out drama-ing each other. They sucked and drained every ounce of energy out of her. Neither went to school. They are now in their late 20's and still live with her (I bailed out years ago) and don't work and both will never not live with her.

The lad is a lot better. He's had a few spells in the psych ward in his later teens and they'd sort his new meds out but as far as I know he's been a lot more functioning and sociable the past 5 to 7 years. But still can't read or write.
Still a house full of shit drama via the daughter though
 
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Thanks all for the kind replies and messages of support, much appreciated:

Regarding him taking up boxing or martial arts, I have thought about that but worry just what harm he might be capable of inflicting on others outside the controlled training environment.

I contacted the LA this morning and they have provided some links for alternative provision. His EHCP is in draft form, but will definitely be signed off. I have a meeting at a specialised school on Friday, they are used to students with challenging emotional and social needs. The class sizes are a maximum of 8 pupils. That would help I’m sure as he was very good when he attended school during lockdown, no doubt due to there being only a few pupils in class.

I have heard from a few parents how medication has really helped, but will have to wait for the ADHD results first.

Once again, thanks for the responses, it’s good to know there are people on here going through similar, or who can offer welcome advice.

Cheers Blues.
 
Thanks all for the kind replies and messages of support, much appreciated:

Regarding him taking up boxing or martial arts, I have thought about that but worry just what harm he might be capable of inflicting on others outside the controlled training environment.

I contacted the LA this morning and they have provided some links for alternative provision. His EHCP is in draft form, but will definitely be signed off. I have a meeting at a specialised school on Friday, they are used to students with challenging emotional and social needs. The class sizes are a maximum of 8 pupils. That would help I’m sure as he was very good when he attended school during lockdown, no doubt due to there being only a few pupils in class.

I have heard from a few parents how medication has really helped, but will have to wait for the ADHD results first.

Once again, thanks for the responses, it’s good to know there are people on here going through similar, or who can offer welcome advice.

Cheers Blues.
Maybe some positive news mate, DMs always open - good luck
 
Don’t know if this is the right thread, and I’ve no one to talk to about this, and it’s a bit of a ramble probably.

I’m an older dad, my son is 12 and completely off the rails. He has been difficult since a traumatic birth, his mother then had very bad post natal depression, and struggled to breast feed him and care for him, though she did her best, whilst also looking after our daughter. Each year we thought he’d mature a little, and his behaviour would improve, but he hasn’t. We divorced a few years ago. He spends his time between both houses, but mostly stays at mine. He has been assessed for autism, but scored very low, though the autism team said there is something, but they don’t know what. We are awaiting results from his ADHD assessment.

We saw the educational psychologist at school last week, and should have an EHCP in place soon, we have waited years for it. He is on a 16 week plan at school, and is failing it and in all likelihood will be permanently excluded this term.

He can be violent towards staff and students, his language is appalling, and he recently battered his mum. She is no longer physically able to control him, he is stronger than her and will just force his way out of the house. He kicked a girl in the face because she got ketchup on his coat. He has been involved in numerous physical assaults on other students at school. He is a bully. The police have been round numerous times. I can still manage him, but I know it’s only a matter of time before he physically assaults me. I have had to pin him down on his bed to calm him down before now as he has been in such a rage. He has called Childline on me, though they saw through it, and my daughter was here as well, she knew he was making stuff up.

He has verbally abused me tonight, called me every name under the sun, a ****, a fat old bastard, paedophile, go kill yourself etc, really bad stuff. I lost it with him and called him stuff back, I shouldn’t have done but I’ve had 12 years of it and can’t take much more. There are times when I just want him gone from my house, my life. He is regularly suspended from school, and removed from lessons, runs down the corridor kicking doors and disturbing other lessons. He hasn’t learned anything academically this school year. He was bad at primary school, but we thought high school would be a new start. It’s been an abject failure. He refuses point blank to do his homework and gets detention after detention. He does little or no work in class, either just rests his head on the desk, or deliberately gets himself thrown out of class. The head of year has really tried with him, but only the other week he told her to “fuck off you fat bitch” amongst other things. He called a female teacher a kiddy fiddler last week. He has an LSA with him all the time. He knows he is on his way out of school but isn’t phased at all.

He has no joy in him, doesn’t smile or laugh much, and I don’t enjoy spending time with him these days. I took him to Wembley yesterday, and a mate of mine who was sat a few rows behind us, came over to him at the end of the match and said you don’t get excited by football these days. He was playing football at quite a high level but just gave up earlier this year and hasn’t kicked a ball since. He seems drawn to trouble and bad behaviour. I caught him vaping in bed. He steals money from his mum.

I know his mum struggles to handle him, and I’m getting the same way. I just don’t think this situation is good for any of us, especially him. CAHMS, MASH, and social services are involved but everything is so slow and nothing is working.

I can only see a really bleak future for him. I have put so much effort into him, we used to do everything together, often at the expense of spending time with my daughter, but we don’t have any real relationship now. I feel I’ve failed as a dad, but have been pushed to my limits and can’t do anymore for him.

If things don’t improve I don’t think I can go on like this, my work is suffering, I don’t eat properly, I don’t do much of anything really, it’s just a constant worry. He isn’t interested in anything, has no hobbies. He’s only a boy, just 12 years old, but his future looks so bleak, and I don’t think I can do anything to help. It’s a nightmare, day after day I get calls from school asking me to come and get him as he has done something bad, and I have to leave work and go and collect him. He never apologises, has no remorse, nor empathy for anyone. I know I’m failing him, I’ve tried so hard. I don’t know what to do anymore to help him and stop him spiralling down this path he is on. If I try to talk to him he literally covers his ears and shouts until I give up. Me and his mother are unable to talk about it as it just ends up a shouting match.

Apologies for the rant, but there’s no one I can talk to about this.
Being a parent is THE hardest job in the world and none of us get it right all the time.
Im an older dad (49 to a 7 year old) and my patience wears thin a lot quicker than it did when i was first a dad at 24.

I had a step son in my first marriage who went off the rails at a similar age. I took him boxing and it changed him nearly over night. Channelled his aggression totally, made him fit, made him dedicated. Made him disciplined
Im no boxing fan at all but it was suggested at the time and it really helped.

Sorry cant be much help. Its tough being a dad but NEVER beat yourself up
 

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