pubs, comercial suicide

ColinBellsjockstrap said:
Many pubs are running at a substantial loss, hence why you see so many boarded up.

Cheap booze from Asda/Tesco etc, combined with sky high rents of £500/1000 per WEEK, plus staff costs, mean many don't stand a chance, unless they either a) Have a thriving food trade. or are b) extremely busy.

It's catch 22, put prices up, lose even more customers.

30 years ago when pubs were still pretty busy, the landlord of my local which was a very busy pub, said he made most of his money on food.
 
It's not that bad. You should blame your mother in law for not having a proper drink. Pubs make their margins on food and soft drinks.
 
Dont mind paying over the odds for beer for the pub "experience". But the pop isn't even real pop, its bloody post mix. A big bag of syrup that must make the profit on a 2 quid drink around 1.98. It seems the issue YET AGAIN is rent costs. Greedy landlords would prefer to see their property boarded up before letting it out at a fair price. Scum
 
Pint here ranges from 1.50eu (pint) to 2.50 for a large beer (over a pint) I've seen in a few sports bars now, a pint of Leon beer (which isn't that bad) for a euro.)
 
brass neck said:
Dont mind paying over the odds for beer for the pub "experience". But the pop isn't even real pop, its bloody post mix. A big bag of syrup that must make the profit on a 2 quid drink around 1.98. It seems the issue YET AGAIN is rent costs. Greedy landlords would prefer to see their property boarded up before letting it out at a fair price. Scum
Well it depends on that as normally the franchise owns the actual property and they charge stupid rents knowing they can turn landlords over for fun while still making a profit
Im not sure how you can call someone charging what they can get for something they own scum. They are not legally bound to give you a pub a price you can afford, it is there property at the end of the day
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
brass neck said:
Dont mind paying over the odds for beer for the pub "experience". But the pop isn't even real pop, its bloody post mix. A big bag of syrup that must make the profit on a 2 quid drink around 1.98. It seems the issue YET AGAIN is rent costs. Greedy landlords would prefer to see their property boarded up before letting it out at a fair price. Scum
Well it depends on that as normally the franchise owns the actual property and they charge stupid rents knowing they can turn landlords over for fun while still making a profit
Im not sure how you can call someone charging what they can get for something they own scum. They are not legally bound to give you a pub a price you can afford, it is there property at the end of the day

Anything to do with property these days is evil. First there is valuations of property. Massively over priced. Rip off. Mortgages. With their small print, "arrangment fee's" etc rip off, people owning 10 properties when there arnt enough for everyone, rent costs being charged landlords charging what ever they want safe in the knowledge that no other landlord will compete with them because there arnt enough houses. Property is the biggest issue in our country and not one mainstream politician will address it. It's things like that which stop.people voting not this voter apathy they convince themselves of.
 
brass neck said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
brass neck said:
Dont mind paying over the odds for beer for the pub "experience". But the pop isn't even real pop, its bloody post mix. A big bag of syrup that must make the profit on a 2 quid drink around 1.98. It seems the issue YET AGAIN is rent costs. Greedy landlords would prefer to see their property boarded up before letting it out at a fair price. Scum
Well it depends on that as normally the franchise owns the actual property and they charge stupid rents knowing they can turn landlords over for fun while still making a profit
Im not sure how you can call someone charging what they can get for something they own scum. They are not legally bound to give you a pub a price you can afford, it is there property at the end of the day

Anything to do with property these days is evil. First there is valuations of property. Massively over priced. Rip off. Mortgages. With their small print, "arrangment fee's" etc rip off, people owning 10 properties when there arnt enough for everyone, rent costs being charged landlords charging what ever they want safe in the knowledge that no other landlord will compete with them because there arnt enough houses. Property is the biggest issue in our country and not one mainstream politician will address it. It's things like that which stop.people voting not this voter apathy they convince themselves of.

Yes but its not the landlords fault there is a lack of property and he finds himself in a good place he is allowed to make a living how he sees fit as nobody forces anyone to rent anywhere. Living in London I know what rent can cost at the top end, im very lucky my landlord doesn't rise the rent with inflation, not so much now as its 1.7% so wouldn't really change. The problem we have is every time a large housing scheme is announced a hippy turns up to save the never spotted industrial snail worm and 100,000 houses get fucked off. Valuations are linked to supply and demand. If there were only 10 Mars Bars left on Earth you would be able to charge a lot more than 55p for one
 

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