Question for parents

[BlueMoon_1987]

I seriously don't mind either way but if you were prepared to have your pet chipped then why not your child ?

Because it's entirely different, I think. Define 'child'. What age would the young person be within their rights to demand that the chip is removed, to avoid snooping parents checking up on them constantly? There are too many variables, which aren't an issue with a pet, which make all this a bad idea.

Of course you are right. Many doing it for the right reasons but its too open to corruption. It will never happen but I can see why people would want to.

Oh yeah, I can entirely see why people would want to do it. What is it they say though, the path to Hell is paved with good intentions? Something like that.

 

[SWP's back]

I seriously don't mind either way but if you were prepared to have your pet chipped then why not your child ?

Is that serious Em?

There are fundamental differences between dogs and children.

For a start, I could very legally walk over to my dog now and inject it with a substance that instantly killed it. I wouldn't be able to do that to my child.

 

[bobmcfc]

I seriously don't mind either way but if you were prepared to have your pet chipped then why not your child ?

Please tell me that you are joking here.

I was just chucking it out there. I can see both sides but can't see it working<br /><br />-- Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:07 pm --<br /><br />

I seriously don't mind either way but if you were prepared to have your pet chipped then why not your child ?

Is that serious Em?

There are fundamental differences between dogs and children.

For a start, I could very legally walk over to my dog now and inject it with a substance that instantly killed it. I wouldn't be able to do that to my child.

See my post above. :)

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

I seriously don't mind either way but if you were prepared to have your pet chipped then why not your child ?

Is that serious Em?

There are fundamental differences between dogs and children.

For a start, I could very legally walk over to my dog now and inject it with a substance that instantly killed it. I wouldn't be able to do that to my child.

Im not sure you can mate but I get your point

Anyway your dog would just maul you to death

 

[stonerblue]

Sense at last.

you must've missed my posts..

I was waiting for some to state they had kids before stating "no" as I knew the OP would resort to the ultimate of "you don't have kids (and as such haven't had the same mental bypass as me) so you wouldn't understand".

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlNyPwJZL2E[/youtube]

 

[SWP's back]

I seriously don't mind either way but if you were prepared to have your pet chipped then why not your child ?

Is that serious Em?

There are fundamental differences between dogs and children.

For a start, I could very legally walk over to my dog now and inject it with a substance that instantly killed it. I wouldn't be able to do that to my child.

Im not sure you can mate but I get your point

Anyway your dog would just maul you to death

I am very sure.<br /><br />-- Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:09 pm --<br /><br />

you must've missed my posts..

I was waiting for some to state they had kids before stating "no" as I knew the OP would resort to the ultimate of "you don't have kids (and as such haven't had the same mental bypass as me) so you wouldn't understand".

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlNyPwJZL2E[/youtube]

So very true.

 

[Skashion]

Certainly not,as it's a fucking ludicrous idea.

Thank you NF. Once again, you've saved my designs on having children some day. If having children makes you half as paranoid and fearful as most of these lot, I'll leave it.

 

[BlueMoon_1987]

Is that serious Em?

There are fundamental differences between dogs and children.

For a start, I could very legally walk over to my dog now and inject it with a substance that instantly killed it. I wouldn't be able to do that to my child.

Im not sure you can mate but I get your point

Anyway your dog would just maul you to death

I am very sure.

Wouldn't the deliberate murder of an animal come under some kind of animal cruelty law? Or isn't the term 'murder' used for animals? I'm guessing there is some kind of loophole in the law where you can legally 'euthanase' an animal, without making it suffer, that keeps it legal?

 

[bobmcfc]

I'm not going to get fierce over it as a parent of a 17,13 and 4 year old. I've spent many a night waiting up worrying because my son hasn't come home all night. As parents we are put through this kind of stuff, We all want to protect our kids but this would probably be taking it too far.

 

[SWP's back]

Im not sure you can mate but I get your point

Anyway your dog would just maul you to death

I am very sure.

Wouldn't the deliberate murder of an animal come under some kind of animal cruelty law? Or isn't the term 'murder' used for animals? I'm guessing there is some kind of loophole in the law where you can legally 'euthanase' an animal, without making it suffer, that keeps it legal?

So long as you don't cause "undue suffering" you can legally kill as many of your pets as you wish.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Im not sure you can mate but I get your point

Anyway your dog would just maul you to death

I am very sure.

Wouldn't the deliberate murder of an animal come under some kind of animal cruelty law? Or isn't the term 'murder' used for animals? I'm guessing there is some kind of loophole in the law where you can legally 'euthanase' an animal, without making it suffer, that keeps it legal?

Farmers tend to shoot there dogs rather than get a vet in but surely you would need justifiable cause

 

[BWTAC]

Certainly not,as it's a fucking ludicrous idea.

Thank you NF. Once again, you've saved my designs on having children some day. If having children makes you half as paranoid and fearful as most of these lot, I'll leave it.

As a father, I completely agree with Fetters. Paranoia rules the day. I tend to try and be as good a parent as possible, whilst letting my daughter enjoy being a child.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

Certainly not,as it's a fucking ludicrous idea.

Thank you NF. Once again, you've saved my designs on having children some day. If having children makes you half as paranoid and fearful as most of these lot, I'll leave it.

We could have a child together,after our civil partnership.
I could ask Pauldominic to be a bridesmaid.
He'd look lovely in a frock.
I'm off to take a couple of pre-match Valium and Guinness's to get over some of the bizarre comments on this thread.
Enjoy.

 

[Bill]

If the tech was sound, i would. Without a doubt.

Whoever asked about the odds of being kidnapped in this country, just ask the parents of millie dowler, james bulger, Marie wells & jessica chapman etc (the list is frighteningly long), if they like those odds.

As a parent, i would give my life to protect my child, so i would certainly ask them to give some of their 'freedom' (if there is such a thing) until they are 18 and then they can choose to have the chip removed if THEY wish, as long as i can do everything in MY power to keep her safe until then.

Freedom is an over-rated illusion.

And yet 60 people are struck by lightening each year and no one has the same paranoid fear of clouds so they.

It is just irrational thinking.

-- Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:03 pm --

5. Deliberate "wumming"/"trolling" of the forum will not be tolerated.

from a moderator as well, this will have to be looked into very carefully!!!

You have to find me first :-)

No I'm deadly serious I'd chip my kids if I could. Do you think Madeline McCann would missing now if chipped. I don't.

No, she would still have been killed by her parents.

Nah, neglect yeh but not murder. I'd still jail the cunts.

 

[Bluebee2]

I am very sure.

Wouldn't the deliberate murder of an animal come under some kind of animal cruelty law? Or isn't the term 'murder' used for animals? I'm guessing there is some kind of loophole in the law where you can legally 'euthanase' an animal, without making it suffer, that keeps it legal?

Farmers tend to shoot there dogs rather than get a vet in but surely you would need justifiable cause

A mate of mine kills his own dogs when they are ready to put down, he also does it for Farmers etc.

 

[SWP's back]

Certainly not,as it's a fucking ludicrous idea.

Thank you NF. Once again, you've saved my designs on having children some day. If having children makes you half as paranoid and fearful as most of these lot, I'll leave it.

As a father, I completely agree with Fetters. Paranoia rules the day. I tend to try and be as good a parent as possible, whilst letting my daughter enjoy being a child.

I'm amazed we all made it here to post on this day given the mine field of kidnappers, paedophiles and wrong uns that tried to get us.

Can no one remember enjoying the freedom of childhood. Being 13-16 and staying out late with your mates. It's something we all did.

De Niro, you say you'd do it but I am sure your kids would not have wanted it. WOuld you have wanted to be chipped as you grew up?

 

[bobmcfc]

Thank you NF. Once again, you've saved my designs on having children some day. If having children makes you half as paranoid and fearful as most of these lot, I'll leave it.

As a father, I completely agree with Fetters. Paranoia rules the day. I tend to try and be as good a parent as possible, whilst letting my daughter enjoy being a child.

I'm amazed we all made it here to post on this day given the mine field of kidnappers, paedophiles and wrong uns that tried to get us.

Can no one remember enjoying the freedom of childhood. Being 13-16 and staying out late with your mates. It's something we all did.

De Niro, you say you'd do it but I am sure your kids would not have wanted it. WOuld you have wanted to be chipped as you grew up?

We never really had the freedom we thought we had. All this jimmy savile stuff is a stark reminder of that

 

[Shadz69]

Would'nt be for me but can understand why some would go for it,as my kids have gotten older the hardest thing to do is give them the freedom and privacy they want.Minding my own business and staying out of things unless asked is very hard while knowing that freedom without experience is when they can get into trouble.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

As a father, I completely agree with Fetters. Paranoia rules the day. I tend to try and be as good a parent as possible, whilst letting my daughter enjoy being a child.

I'm amazed we all made it here to post on this day given the mine field of kidnappers, paedophiles and wrong uns that tried to get us.

Can no one remember enjoying the freedom of childhood. Being 13-16 and staying out late with your mates. It's something we all did.

De Niro, you say you'd do it but I am sure your kids would not have wanted it. WOuld you have wanted to be chipped as you grew up?

We never really had the freedom we thought we had. All this jimmy savile stuff is a stark reminder of that

I had a great childhood with strict rules from my parents on playing outside. Im still alive I wasn't bummed or kidnapped or murdered when i rode to the shops on my bmx

 

[SWP's back]

We never really had the freedom we thought we had. All this jimmy savile stuff is a stark reminder of that

Yes we did.

And no, the Jimmy Savile case means sod all. He was one, well known, wrong un. We were safer than our parents or their parents and children are safer still. The advent of media and hearing about every case in its minutiae does not change how safe we were. All it changes is perception, not the reality.

As I said, 60 people are struck by lightening in the UK each and every year but we don't look at clouds and hide do we.