Question Time

I think Fox is saying that the NHS management system does not work so (without actually saying) we need reform and get more private companies running it.

Listening to her for the first time, she plays both sides but her ultimate agenda is clear.
 
El_george said:
I asked for a reliable source, the chancellor is a politician, they talk shite mostly.
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Haha, ok mate. Who do you think appointed Claire Fox as a Baroness? Your baron of truth tonight?

You asked where I got my information, I answered.

Given that it isn’t going to be of any benefit to us any time soon, why should we help destroy our environment further, when it has zero benefit to us?
 
El_george said:
And can you give a reliable source for the "given it would be 10 years before if created enough gas to make any kind of difference" quote you have posited?
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I mean a quick Google asking "how long will it take for fracking to be viable in the UK" gives page after page of responses - this is the first 5 - you may also ask why have the Govt supressed their own British Geological Survey report on fracking and why when they are informed of the inherent dangers JRM simply decided to change the rules and regs so its no longer advisable should tell you that its a non-starter. It will NOT change your gas bills and WILL come with seismic issues but you know that deep down don't you.

www.theguardian.com

Factcheck: why fracking in UK will not reduce your energy bills

Experts say it would take years to begin shale gas production and it is far less accessible than once thought
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

www.lse.ac.uk

How much shale gas is there in the UK and what is the status of fracking? - Grantham Research Institute on climate change and the environment

This explainer outlines the current and historical status of fracking in the UK, the arguments for and against it, and the UK's reserves of shale gas.
www.lse.ac.uk www.lse.ac.uk

priceofoil.org

Experts warn fracking in UK is neither safe, viable, nor popular and “amounts to climate suicide" - Oil Change International

Last week, new British Prime Minister outlined plans to frack in the UK. However, experts, scientists, activists, NGO’s and even Truss’s own MPs, believe that fracking will fail in the UK.
priceofoil.org

www.carbonbrief.org

Factcheck: Why fracking is not the answer to the UK’s energy crisis - Carbon Brief

The UK’s new prime minister Liz Truss has used her first major policy address to announce an end to the moratorium on fracking in England.
www.carbonbrief.org www.carbonbrief.org
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Haha, ok mate. Who do you think appointed Claire Fox as a Baroness? Your baron of truth tonight?

You asked where I got my information, I answered.

Given that it isn’t going to be of any benefit to us any time soon, why should we help destroy our environment further, when it has zero benefit to us?
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I was totally shocked when I found out Claire Fox was elevated to the Lords, I have to be honest (I can't recall the background to it) but I assume it has something to to with 'get Brexit done' as she was for that.

But I think she talked a lot of sense tonight, yet she got criticism on here and on twitter because of it (eg on fracking and free speech) but I reckon most of the people who think like she thinks are a) not on twitter or b) in bed now. That is all I was trying to say.
 
El_george said:
I was totally shocked when I found out Claire Fox was elevated to the Lords, I have to be honest (I can't recall the background to it) but I assume it has something to to with 'get Brexit done' as she was for that.

But I think she talked a lot of sense tonight yet she got criticism on here and on twitter because of it (eg on fracking and free speech) but I reckon most of the people who think like she thinks are a) not on twitter or b) in bed now. That is all I was trying to say.
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Awesome. Have a read of the post above.

You're talking nonsense, as per usual.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Haha, ok mate. Who do you think appointed Claire Fox as a Baroness? Your baron of truth tonight?

You asked where I got my information, I answered.

Given that it isn’t going to be of any benefit to us any time soon, why should we help destroy our environment further, when it has zero benefit to us?
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Because noted energy expert and world regarded seismologist JRM tells us so
 
On a separate note, that Laura Newsberg person has just come on to advertise a Sunday morning programme. Does/Has anybody actually watched this as it seems to me that it’s a programme that had ran its course, just like ’Soccer’ Sunday.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
On a separate note, that Laura Newsberg person has just come on to advertise a Sunday morning programme. Does/Has anybody actually watched this as it seems to me that it’s a programme that had ran its course, just like ’Soccer’ Sunday.
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Holed below the waterline on day one when they booked noted right wing comic Joe Lycett to come on and fucking destroy the Tories, her and her programme. Comedy Gold
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
On a separate note, that Laura Newsberg person has just come on to advertise a Sunday morning programme. Does/Has anybody actually watched this as it seems to me that it’s a programme that had ran its course, just like ’Soccer’ Sunday.
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To be fair, I think she did one show - which was a joke anyway - as it involved interviews with Truss and Sunak after the votes were in and then some dickhead comic highjacked the show anyway - and then the Queen died.

So give her a chance. Why do people call Kuenssberg a Tory anyway, I have listened to her on that Newscast thing and I never spotted any bias.
 
El_george said:
To be fair, I think she did one show - which was a joke anyway - as it involved interviews with Truss and Sunak after the votes were in and then some dickhead comic highjacked the show anyway - and then the Queen died.

So give her a chance. Why do people call Kuenssberg a Tory anyway, I have listened to her on that Newscast thing and I never spotted any bias.
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again you obviously know why or are in a political discussion but have zero knowledge of any part of the subject but as you can post you can clearly use a phone or computer and will be aware of Wiki then here's her entry which - if you are really so off grid you need alarms on your phone to remind you to eat and breathe - may give you a clue to your question

Bias allegations[edit]​

Following the 2016 local elections, a petition was started on 38 Degrees which accused Kuenssberg of being biased against the Labour Party and its leader Jeremy Corbyn, calling for her dismissal.[34] The petition was later withdrawn by David Babbs, executive director of 38 Degrees, who suggested it had become a "focal point for sexist and hateful abuse made towards Laura Kuenssberg" on other social media websites such as Twitter although it was acknowledged that this represented "the actions of a small minority".[35][36]

In January 2017 the BBC Trust ruled that a report in November 2015 by Kuenssberg broke the broadcaster's impartiality and accuracy guidelines. A viewer had complained about her item, which featured an interview with Corbyn on the BBC News at Six which gave the incorrect impression that Corbyn disagreed with the use of firearms by police in incidents such as that month's terrorist attacks in Paris. His purported answer to a question as broadcast in the report was in fact his reply to a more general question (not broadcast), and not specifically about that terrorist attack.[37] The BBC Trust said that the inaccuracy was "compounded" when Kuenssberg went on to state that Corbyn's message "couldn't be more different" from that of May, who was about to publish anti-terrorism proposals. The trust said that accuracy was particularly important when dealing "with a critical question at a time of extreme national concern."[37] Nevertheless, the BBC Trust found no evidence that there had been any intention to mislead, and their ruling was that the footage "had been compiled in good faith."[38] The Daily Telegraph published a story about Kuenssberg in 2017 with the headline "the most divisive woman on TV today?" printed on the front-page.[4][39]

In September 2019 Kuenssberg received criticism for her portrayal of Omar Salem, a father who confronted the prime minister, Boris Johnson, about the government's treatment of the NHS, as "a Labour activist."[40] Salem defended Kuenssberg, saying that she was doing her job "without fear or favour which is a vital part of democracy. I don't think 'Labour activist cares about NHS' is a huge scoop though...".[41]

On 11 December 2019, the day before the General Election, she drew controversy by claiming on air that submitted postal votes, apparently viewed by both the Labour Party and the Conservative Party, were "looking pretty grim for Labour in a lot of parts of the country".[42][43] Viewing postal votes prior to polling day is in breach of guidelines set by the Electoral Commission[44] and predicting electoral outcomes based on votes cast prior to polls closing may be a criminal offence.[45][46] The footage was subsequently withdrawn from BBC iPlayer, while the episode of Politics Live in which the incident happened was withdrawn and removed from the BBC Parliament schedule.[47] The BBC News press office tweeted: "Regarding today's Politics Live programme, the BBC does not believe it, or its political editor, has breached electoral law."[48] The Metropolitan Police later confirmed that there was "no evidence of any criminal offences having been committed."[49]

Kuenssberg was criticised, alongside other major journalists, for incorrectly tweeting that a Labour activist had punched a Conservative Party advisor, without verification; footage was released showing this was untrue and she later apologised and retracted her tweet.[50] On 3 March 2020, however, the BBC's Executive Complaints Unit stated that "It found no evidence of political bias nor that Laura Kuenssberg had failed to check the story before publication." In her apology, Kuenssberg noted that two sources had told her the story was true, and she hence decided to publish it.[51]

In May 2020, as the Dominic Cummings scandal broke, Kuenssberg tweeted several statements from an anonymous source close to Cummings about the nature of his trip. In one tweet, she contradicted Pippa Crerar, one of the journalists who broke the story, with information from a "source" which argued that the trip was not illegal. Many suspected that the anonymous source was Cummings himself, which led to allegations that Kuenssberg was defending, or at least uncritically repeating, his side of the story. This led to a significant volume of complaints to the BBC, who defended Kuenssberg's actions.[52][53] In May 2021, Dominic Cummings confirmed to a Parliamentary committee that he "set the record straight" with briefings to Kuenssberg.[54]

An interview with Boris Johnson in July 2020 led to over 100 complaints against Kuenssberg being submitted to the BBC alleging that she had overly interrupted Johnson and was displaying bias against the government. The BBC defended Kuenssberg, stating that she had conducted the interview in a 'thorough, firm but fair manner.'[55]

In November 2020 some economists criticised Kuenssberg's assessment of Rishi Sunak's economic statement, suggesting she lacked understanding of economics. The BBC defended Kuenssberg stating that she was summarising the position of the Chancellor and that its economics editor, Faisal Islam, had then given the opposite position.[5
 
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El_george said:
To be fair, I think she did one show - which was a joke anyway - as it involved interviews with Truss and Sunak after the votes were in and then some dickhead comic highjacked the show anyway - and then the Queen died.

So give her a chance. Why do people call Kuenssberg a Tory anyway, I have listened to her on that Newscast thing and I never spotted any bias.
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She's a fucking Tory.

www.theguardian.com

BBC denies Laura Kuenssberg's postal vote comments broke law

Broadcaster’s political editor said on air that ballots in so far were looking ‘grim’ for Labour
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BBC Trust says Laura Kuenssberg report on Corbyn was inaccurate

Regulator says report on Labour leader’s views about shoot-to-kill breached impartiality and accuracy guidelines
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Not forgetting she spoke at a Tory conference event. Then joined in a karaoke party singing with Gove and Coffrey.
 
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