Question Time

[Metal Biker]

But they have set the limit at £80k pa - increased tax on the sum paid to an individual above that. So you pay the increased rate on income over £80k - that is before tax. You pay the increased rate on money above that sum.

So he's absolutely right to complain then, isn't he.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Has this jacobs woman been doing a few lines pre show?

Something's not in sequence, that's for sure.

 

[urban genie]

So he's absolutely right to complain then, isn't he.

Works out for him at 89p a week extra.

He went on like they were leaving him destitute, though looking at the cheap fucking polo shirt and plastic watch, I wouldn't be suprised if he isn't earning 20 grand and talking bollocks, you're on telly man, make an effort to look tidy.

 

[hilts]

Man on over £80k pa outs himself as fearful of being taxed more.................on national TV. Arse.

Leave chippy alone he’s having a night out:-)

 

[Metal Biker]

Works out for him at 89p a week extra.

He went on like they were leaving him destitute, though looking at the cheap fucking polo shirt and plastic watch, I wouldn't be suprised if he isn't earning 20 grand and talking bollocks, you're on telly man, make an effort to look tidy.

It's not Labour's money to take, and he clearly doesn't agree with the policy as he feels he's taxed enough.

You disagree, which is fine, but he's not "wrong" and entitled to air his dissatisfaction with the proposed policy.

 

[chesterbells]

It's not Labour's money to take, and he clearly doesn't agree with the policy as he feels he's taxed enough.

You disagree, which is fine, but he's not "wrong" and entitled to air his dissatisfaction with the proposed policy.

True, but it is Labour’s to take (and spend and redistribute for the greater good of society), if they get enough votes to form the next government; that’s how it works.

 

[urban genie]

It's not Labour's money to take, and he clearly doesn't agree with the policy as he feels he's taxed enough.

You disagree, which is fine, but he's not "wrong" and entitled to air his dissatisfaction with the proposed policy.

People are more taking the piss out of his reasoning he isn't in the top 5% and even said he wasn't in the top 50%.

The clown needs to realise what most people earn in this country which is under 25 grand before claiming he is on a low wage and unfaily punished.

He earns in a year what I do in 3.5 years yet if I was asked to pay and extra 2.50 a month to help the NHS or provide better public servies then I could give up the price of a pint for that.

His point about the top 5% and 80 grand was ridiculous an ill informed, the daft twat.

If he doesn't want to pay it fine, thats his opinion, but not the actually topic being laughed at about him.

 

[hilts]

And people wonder why the rich get such a hard time when dopes like him spout off. Why are you taxing me!!!!! Sniff. Piss off you selfish gobshite.

 

[urban genie]

Funny how the two gobbiest anti-labour audience members were sat next to each other.

 

[Meatbag]

Man on over £80k pa outs himself as fearful of being taxed more.................on national TV. Arse.

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[Metal Biker]

True, but it is Labour’s to take (and spend and redistribute for the greater good of society), if they get enough votes to form the next government; that’s how it works.

No it isn't, it belongs to the taxpayer, or a better terminology, "the worker". Especially if the taxpayer does not agree with any of Labour's "plans".

Regardless, he's entitled to voice his concerns, and isn't "incorrect" for doing so.

 

[Metal Biker]

People are more taking the piss out of his reasoning he isn't in the top 5% and even said he wasn't in the top 50%.

The clown needs to realise what most people earn in this country which is under 25 grand before claiming he is on a low wage and unfaily punished.

He earns in a year what I do in 3.5 years yet if I was asked to pay and extra 2.50 a month to help the NHS or provide better public servies then I could give up the price of a pint for that.

His point about the top 5% and 80 grand was ridiculous an ill informed, the daft twat.

If he doesn't want to pay it fine, thats his opinion, but not the actually topic being laughed at about him.

Which wasn't what I was arguing. I was defending his right to criticise the notion that a Labour government wants to tax him more and him being called out for being "wrong" for thinking that he shouldn't be taxed more.

 

[Vic]

Which wasn't what I was arguing. I was defending his right to criticise the notion that a Labour government wants to tax him more and him being called out for being "wrong" for thinking that he shouldn't be taxed more.

Give it up. He was calling Labour liars for saying he was in the top 5%. It wasn't about the rights or wrongs of paying more tax. He said the truth was a lie. It was indefensible.

I suspect you didn't watch it which is why you've gone off track.

No doubt we'll find out soon what he does for a living.

 

[urban genie]

Which wasn't what I was arguing. I was defending his right to criticise the notion that a Labour government wants to tax him more and him being called out for being "wrong" for thinking that he shouldn't be taxed more.

Yeah but he wasn't going on about that he was waffling about not being in the top 5% and that labour were lying saying someone on 80 grand was.

That is why people are taking the piss, that and his lack of knowledge on wage levels and what profesions earn.

The bloke sounded a right knob with no clue

 

[Vic]

Yeah but he wasn't going on about that he was waffling about not being in the top 5% and that labour were lying saying someone on 80 grand was.

That is why people are taking the piss, that and his lack of knowledge on wage levels and what proffessions earn.

The bloke sounded a right knob with no clue

He's the new Pret woman.

 

[Kazzydeyna]

On LBC earlier there was someone claiming to be a GP complaining that , as he earned 90k a year he would be "getting taxed for working in the NHS".

He also complained that the NHS was underfunded.

Presumably, like the tories, he expects the little people to pay more for less. The prick.

As for that utter fuckwit on QT tonight crying that he was being asked to pay a couple of quid a week extra in order to begin putting right the wrongs of the last few years of outright neglect inflicted on the british people by the fucking tory cunts he was not only thick as cheese he was also a selfish twat.

But all of the above are not nearly as shameful, and downright stupid, as working class, average wage or less folk who actually argue in favour of less tax on the most fortunate and affluent in society at their own and their family's expense.

One final thing, you need only check the brexit thread(s) to see I am the most brexit-y of brexiteers but this tory party, their arrogance, their lies, their lickspittles in the BBC, their useful idiots amongst the working class and their selfish twats in the affluent middle classes have finally convinced me that Brexit is NOT the most important issue in the country today. Getting rid of them IS. And if that costs me brexit but takes a few thousand people out of foodbanks by charging GPs a tenner a week extra in tax I'll be quite happy with that.

Nothing in life enrages me more that 20k a year strugglers actually arguing against taxing millionaires a tiny bit more and in favour of austerity.

 

[BlueAnorak]

On LBC earlier there was someone claiming to be a GP complaining that , as he earned 90k a year he would be "getting taxed for working in the NHS".

He also complained that the NHS was underfunded.

Presumably, like the tories, he expects the little people to pay more for less. The prick.

As for that utter fuckwit on QT tonight crying that he was being asked to pay a couple of quid a week extra in order to begin putting wrong the rights of the last few years of outright neglect inflicted on the british people by the fucking tory cunts he was not only thick as cheese he was also a selfish twat.

But all of the above are not nearly as shameful, and downright stupid, as working class, average wage or less folk who actually argue in favour of less tax on the most fortunate and affluent in society at their own and their family's expense.

One final thing, you need only check the brexit thread(s) to see I am the most brexit-y of brexiteers but this tory party, their arrogance, their lies, their lickspittles in the BBC, their useful idiots amongst the working class and their selfish twats in the affluent middle classes have finally convinced me that Brexit is NOT the most important issue in the country today. Getting rid of them IS. And if that costs me brexit but takes a few thousand people out of foodbanks by charging GPs a tenner a week extra in tax I'll be quite happy with that.

Nothing in life enrages me more that 20k a year strugglers actually arguing against taxing millionaires a tiny bit more and in favour of austerity.

Don't be so quick to criticise. There is also the Pesion loss issue for senior medical staff. Work extra shifts or overtime and you lose pension entitlement making you worse off than if you never bothered working the extra hours. Another HMRC tax rule that is flipping ludicrous.

 

[Kazzydeyna]

Don't be so quick to criticise. There is also the Pesion loss issue for senior medical staff. Work extra shifts or overtime and you lose pension entitlement making you worse off than if you never bothered working the extra hours.

I think if they've been earning 90-100k a year for 40 years they'll just about survive mate.

I'm more concerned with the canteen staff earning a few quid an hour who now have to work an extra 2-7 years before they get their meagre state pension.
And scavenge for food in food banks.
In the 21st century.
In the 5th richest country in the world.

GPs are the lifeblood of our NHS and are to be hugely admired and revered (although let's not forget they had to "have their mouths stuffed with gold" in order to get the NHS off the ground as they famously campaigned against it). And should be paid accordingly, I do not begrudge them one penny of their salary. If the money wasn't needed more urgently eslewhere I'd pay them more .

But when you work in an organisation that you can see with your own eyes is being stripped and pared back to the bare bones, leaving injured and critically ill people to lie and sometimes die in corridors for hours at a time, please don't be so ignorant and arrogant as to call a radio phone in, complain about a lack of investment in said organisation, and then complain that you are being asked to pay an extra £10 a week out of £1800 in order to support it.

 

[BlueAnorak]

I think if they've been earning 90-100k a year for 40 years they'll just about survive mate.

I'm more concerned with the canteen staff earning a few quid an hour who now have to work an extra 2-7 years before they get their meagre state pension.
And scavenge for food in food banks.
In the 21st century.
In the 5th richest country in the world.

GPs are the lifeblood of our NHS and are to be hugely admired and revered (although let's not forget they had to "have their mouths stuffed with gold" in order to get the NHS off the ground as they famously campaigned against it). And should be paid accordingly, I do not begrudge them one penny of their salary. If the money wasn't needed more urgently eslewhere I'd pay them more .

But when you work in an organisation that you can see with your own eyes is being stripped and pared back to the bare bones, leaving injured and critically ill people to lie and sometimes die in corridors for hours at a time, please don't be so ignorant and arrogant as to call a radio phone in, complain about a lack of investment in said organisation, and then complain that you are being asked to pay an extra £10 a week out of £1800 in order to support it.

Seriously would you work extra hours to let your employer make you poorer as a result? Very few would. I know I wouldn't.

 

[Kazzydeyna]

Seriously would you work extra hours to let your employer make you poorer as a result? Very few would. I know I wouldn't.

Maybe, maybe not .depends on the circumstances.

But I can tell you this. If I earned 90k+ a year in an organisation that was chronically underfunded due to people on my sort of salary getting a substantially easier ride than those people earning 1/6 as much and was asked to pay £10 a week more in tax to help fund that organisation , and improve the plight of people I actually had to watch suffer day in day out I'd be happy to pay it. I'd consider it my civic duty.

I earn about 1/3 of a gp (and quite right too they do a far more important job than I do) and I'd be more than happy to pay a bit more in tax to support the people who have suffered the most these last 10 years or so . I think most people would . And hopefully in a few weeks they will be .