Quitting work on the spot

Very interesting reading this thread. Tell me, is it now normal in the UK to receive emails (of any tenor) from a work colleague or boss at 11 pm on a Saturday evening these days?

For me, it would be completely and utterly out of order.
Wouldn't reply to it mate..

If it gets brought up in conversation, make it very clear that you'll continue to ignore emails which are received in unsociable hours.

These days you can schedule an email to be sent at 8am on a Monday morning, there really is no excuse to be sending anything that hits someone's inbox over the weekend.
 
Very interesting reading this thread. Tell me, is it now normal in the UK to receive emails (of any tenor) from a work colleague or boss at 11 pm on a Saturday evening these days?

For me, it would be completely and utterly out of order.
I don't have an issue receiving an email any time of the day. It won't be read though until I'm in work......
 
Wouldn't reply to it mate..

If it gets brought up in conversation, make it very clear that you'll continue to ignore emails which are received in unsociable hours.

These days you can schedule an email to be sent at 8am on a Monday morning, there really is no excuse to be sending anything that hits someone's inbox over the weekend.
Assuming you are working a 9 to 5 Mon to Fri job of course.
 
Very interesting reading this thread. Tell me, is it now normal in the UK to receive emails (of any tenor) from a work colleague or boss at 11 pm on a Saturday evening these days?

For me, it would be completely and utterly out of order.

I wouldn’t say it’s “normal” across the spectrum of all jobs but for some industries there is an unspoken expectation that you are always contactable. Management Consulting is one of those. I get emails at that time (and later) literally every day.

You can of course choose not to be online/contactable, but that will get you unofficially marked as “career limited”. As in you will never get above average ratings and will be passed over for promotions. Pair that with the fact a lot of consultancies have an “up or out” policy (basically meaning that if you don’t get promoted in the expected time frames you get the elbow) and you can see how you’re effectively coerced into these behaviours. You have two choices… either work for a company like that - you get well paid but have to accept the unwritten “rules”… or just don’t bother and work somewhere with a more structured work pattern.

For the record I didn’t justify his email with a response. I haven’t responded to it since. My response was my notice.
 
I wouldn’t say it’s “normal” across the spectrum of all jobs but for some industries there is an unspoken expectation that you are always contactable. Management Consulting is one of those. I get emails at that time (and later) literally every day.

You can of course choose not to be online/contactable, but that will get you unofficially marked as “career limited”. As in you will never get above average ratings and will be passed over for promotions. Pair that with the fact a lot of consultancies have an “up or out” policy (basically meaning that if you don’t get promoted in the expected time frames you get the elbow) and you can see how you’re effectively coerced into these behaviours. You have two choices… either work for a company like that - you get well paid but have to accept the unwritten “rules”… or just don’t bother and work somewhere with a more structured work pattern.

For the record I didn’t justify his email with a response. I haven’t responded to it since. My response was my notice.
I work a 9 - 5 office job in senior management. I will sometimes work outside of those hours either in the office or from home. That's my choice but there is an expectation that I will work if needed. I quite regularly come in to emails from the night before or early that day from customers/suppliers so it is a very normal thing to do a bit extra.
 
I wouldn’t say it’s “normal” across the spectrum of all jobs but for some industries there is an unspoken expectation that you are always contactable. Management Consulting is one of those. I get emails at that time (and later) literally every day.

You can of course choose not to be online/contactable, but that will get you unofficially marked as “career limited”. As in you will never get above average ratings and will be passed over for promotions. Pair that with the fact a lot of consultancies have an “up or out” policy (basically meaning that if you don’t get promoted in the expected time frames you get the elbow) and you can see how you’re effectively coerced into these behaviours. You have two choices… either work for a company like that - you get well paid but have to accept the unwritten “rules”… or just don’t bother and work somewhere with a more structured work pattern.

For the record I didn’t justify his email with a response. I haven’t responded to it since. My response was my notice.

I understand you (and by the way, three cheers to you for not replying), but you see what that implies: in certain companies, for certain jobs, you are assumed to be available 24/7. Well, unless I was a futures trader, or something like that, pulling down a five figure bonus at the end of the year (or six?), and obviously in a job where markets are worldwide and shifting all the time, there is no way I would accept that. No way.
Certain doctors are, I believe, on call like that. That also, you can understand.
Otherwise, I think it's downright rude. Your ex-boss is clearly someone who doesn't have a life. Sad, in a way.

Edit: I should add that I've known a number of people who are actors in my life. My eldest brother, for one (the other one, too, but I have no contact with him). One of my best friends is also an actor. They have to be on immediate call, pretty much. Whoever's hiring can get someone else who's probably as good, in a heartbeat. It's understood.
 
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I work a 9 - 5 office job in senior management. I will sometimes work outside of those hours either in the office or from home. That's my choice but there is an expectation that I will work if needed. I quite regularly come in to emails from the night before or early that day from customers/suppliers so it is a very normal thing to do a bit extra.

Yes the odd few bits either side of your working hours is totally normal, especially for folks who spend all day trapped in meetings and therefore need a bit of extra time to re-group/reconcile. My experience is that in roles like that performance is judged less on bean-counting the hours and more on whether I’m delivering on what I’m accountable for. So sometimes that means a few more hours, sometimes it might mean a bit more flexibility. I think that’s pretty common.

In my post above I should clarify I’m only referring to the rather extreme practices I see in my company and others like it of people back-and-forthing on emails at 3am on a Sunday. That’s not about doing a bit extra to fulfil your duties, it’s an exercise in demonstrating your sacrifice at the altar of the company.
 
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