Radamel Falcao Zarate

[Comrade Buka]

I agree in priciple but could mean the buying clubs haggling down the price simply because they know we want shut due to having a surplus. Would be more difficult I imagine to get a fair price.

I agree in principle, but rumours of us wanting a new player, while trying to sell an old player might cause the buying club to haggle.

Or the fact that Mansour is known for having more money than the Emperor of the Known Universe, might cause clubs to haggle.

 

[Matt the Giant]

If the club indeed sees as an option or even desire to sell all of Balotelli, Dzeko and Tevez, something big must be going on regarding the future of the club.
Two of these are Mancini's own pick as well.

 

[Comrade Buka]

As above. It's common sense to be fair.

Look at Newcastle with Carrol when they knew Liverpool would need a striker after selling Torres and they knew the cost of it. Carrol basically cost £25mill more than his value.

Carroll signed for Liverpool on the last day of the transfer window on 31 January 2011 for a fee of £35 million

Could be a clue to the price as well.

 

[bluelassie]

I agree in priciple but could mean the buying clubs haggling down the price simply because they know we want shut due to having a surplus. Would be more difficult I imagine to get a fair price.

I agree in principle, but rumours of us wanting a new player, while trying to sell an old player might cause the buying club to haggle.

Or the fact that Mansour is known for having more money than the Emperor of the Known Universe, might cause clubs to haggle.

True!

 

[Comrade Buka]

No.

If we buy and then sell it means our position is weakened and we'd recoup less. It is a damn site easier to buy than sell.

To use the previous posters logic. You mean like Carroll going for an assload of money to Liverpool. Us being Liverpool in this case?

Maybe I am too sinister, but one might consider negotiating both at the same time. Behind closed (or as much as possible) doors. So you finalize the sale slightly before the buy, before announcing it to the world and his cousin.

 

[Stoned Rose]

I agree Falcao seems more consistent than both Tevez and Balo. However if we make too many changes to our strikers thinking we are are making room for Falcao and he goes to Chelsea we could be left with egg on our face and ruin our chances of retaining the PL!

If I was in charge of the transfers, I would probably try and secure Falcao's signature BEFORE shipping out half our squad. Or maybe that just lacks basic logic?

No.

If we buy and then sell it means our position is weakened and we'd recoup less. It is a damn site easier to buy than sell.

To answer Plain I'd say Mario is the man we sell because he simply isn't needed. Then it's either Dzeko or Tevez because imo we don't need a 4th striker with Guidetti in the wings. Tevez is on massive wages and running contract down whereas Edin has a role here.

I personally feel Mario move is nearly done. I feel our summer was hindered by lack of sales and now we are looking at what we were then but the wheels are in motion and we're further down the track.

IMO Mario is 100% gone. I have already betted someone on here about it.

IMO Mario is 100% gone

All day.

 

[Comrade Buka]

IMO he might flirt with us to get the best deal but why would you want to compete with at least 2 or 3 other world class strikers to start at City when he would be gauranteed a start every match at Chelsea?
They also show a willingness to pay extra agent's fees, (as Hazard!). London as a location is more desireable for many footballers, particularly after the "Olympic roadshow".
I would love him to come to us but I just cant see it.

To me it's what Roman wants, Roman gets. As Tolmie said we probably are offering the same as Chelski.

However he would want to play every game.

With our abundance of strikers we can't offer that.

You have to hand it to Roman. Over summer he rebuilt the team. We simply failed to match that.

But we can offer massive assurances that Mario, Dzeko and Tevez will all be gone by end of next summer.

People saying we need to throw caution to the wind, that's exactly what we are trying to do with the firm interest in Falcao.

Aguero, Falcao, Guidetti and an attacking midfielder/winger/Isco.

Take London out of the equation and what's not to like?

Being Champions of the Chumps League tends to affect the choice of club. Hazard being an example.

 

[Stoned Rose]

But we can offer massive assurances that Mario, Dzeko and Tevez will all be gone by end of next summer.

People saying we need to throw caution to the wind, that's exactly what we are trying to do with the firm interest in Falcao.

Aguero, Falcao, Guidetti and an attacking midfielder/winger/Isco.

Take London out of the equation and what's not to like?

I doubt hugely Edin will go. I punted the others already.

Isco still stalling on that new deal isn't he? Malaga owners not payting out like promised but qualifed CL, do you think it coudl be pulled off In Jan or the Summer?

All three strikers will be gone, with the possible exception of Tevez, for problematic contractual reasons.

Not sure how serious the Isco interest even is.

January is covered in terms of spending.

If Falcao does choose Chelsea in January, I don't expect that money to burn a hole in our pocket.

Hypothetical question, nothing sinister, just interested in different takes.

Does Guardiola make any difference to Falcao's destination?

The lad Eriksson has just said he wants out at Ajax.

Decent option for us?

All three strikers will be gone, with the possible exception of Tevez, for problematic contractual reasons.

Am I reading this right? Aguero, Balotelli and Dzeko are being jibbed?

 

[Claytop]

This thread is going to be massive come January, dreading it already!

Just sign for either club nice and early Mr Falcao and save us all the stress..

 

[FantasyIreland]

I know I'll get slated for this ... but the day Tevez leaves, we should break the bank and sign Luis Suarez.

Not by me,i'd even make him the primary target - proven ability who fits our style perfectly,he wouldn't even have to move mansion.......

 

[bernabias home shirt]

I doubt hugely Edin will go. I punted the others already.

Isco still stalling on that new deal isn't he? Malaga owners not payting out like promised but qualifed CL, do you think it coudl be pulled off In Jan or the Summer?

All three strikers will be gone, with the possible exception of Tevez, for problematic contractual reasons.

Not sure how serious the Isco interest even is.

January is covered in terms of spending.

If Falcao does choose Chelsea in January, I don't expect that money to burn a hole in our pocket.

Hypothetical question, nothing sinister, just interested in different takes.

Does Guardiola make any difference to Falcao's destination?

The lad Eriksson has just said he wants out at Ajax.

Decent option for us?

Eriksson I like a lot. Thought he was excellent against us in both legs. A little greedy, but I think that comes with being the star at Ajax. Personally think he's growing into the same kind of talent which Fabregas had.

Falcao to Chelsea seems likely.

Personally very surprised nobody's talking about Cavani. Started the season on fire again. Younger than Falcao and more versatile. Would probably cost a little more but not much.

I know I'll get slated for this ... but the day Tevez leaves, we should break the bank and sign Luis Suarez.

I'd take him if any of our strikers left
Even if he is an horrible twat.

 

[Tevez City]

When the transfer window will be open ?

 

[Plain Speaking]

I doubt hugely Edin will go. I punted the others already.

Isco still stalling on that new deal isn't he? Malaga owners not payting out like promised but qualifed CL, do you think it coudl be pulled off In Jan or the Summer?

All three strikers will be gone, with the possible exception of Tevez, for problematic contractual reasons.

Not sure how serious the Isco interest even is.

January is covered in terms of spending.

If Falcao does choose Chelsea in January, I don't expect that money to burn a hole in our pocket.

Hypothetical question, nothing sinister, just interested in different takes.

Does Guardiola make any difference to Falcao's destination?

The lad Eriksson has just said he wants out at Ajax.

Decent option for us?

All three strikers will be gone, with the possible exception of Tevez, for problematic contractual reasons.

Am I reading this right? Aguero, Balotelli and Dzeko are being jibbed?

I think TH meant the 3 strikers Tevez, Balo and Dzeko. The contractual element with Tevez is his contract expires in june 2014.

 

[Plain Speaking]

I know I'll get slated for this ... but the day Tevez leaves, we should break the bank and sign Luis Suarez.

I'd take him if any of our strikers left
Even if he is an horrible twat.

I am concerned about the large number of normally reliable posters that seem to pushing for the aquisition of Suarez. A horrible character: sold by Ajax for biting, banned for racism, a persistent cheater...I suspect moves are being made but I hope not!

 

[NipHolmes]

But we can offer massive assurances that Mario, Dzeko and Tevez will all be gone by end of next summer.

People saying we need to throw caution to the wind, that's exactly what we are trying to do with the firm interest in Falcao.

Aguero, Falcao, Guidetti and an attacking midfielder/winger/Isco.

Take London out of the equation and what's not to like?

I doubt hugely Edin will go. I punted the others already.

Isco still stalling on that new deal isn't he? Malaga owners not payting out like promised but qualifed CL, do you think it coudl be pulled off In Jan or the Summer?

All three strikers will be gone, with the possible exception of Tevez, for problematic contractual reasons.

Not sure how serious the Isco interest even is.

January is covered in terms of spending.

If Falcao does choose Chelsea in January, I don't expect that money to burn a hole in our pocket.

Hypothetical question, nothing sinister, just interested in different takes.

Does Guardiola make any difference to Falcao's destination?

The lad Eriksson has just said he wants out at Ajax.

Decent option for us?

With us having both Silva and Nasri plus Suarez coming through I'd leave him alone to be honest. Good player no doubt but not needed.

I've always liked Cavani so if Falcoa is missed on then he has to be targeted. A notable mention to Demaio too, I think he is one of those gems very few speak of. But first and foremost you go for the main man and that is Falcoa.

Pep changes the scenario in that he rotates less and keeps his teams pretty much the same. I'm not keen on his defensive work and I'm of the opinion Barca are weaker due to his purchase of Fabregas when they needn't have bought him and should have gone for Silva instead from AC Milan. Anyway, Falcoa maybe attracted to him as a manager but I don't see it being massive. I simply think game time and place to live is more important.

I hope Isco link is serious, he'd improve us, which is a big thing with the quality we have. He is very similar to Hazardfor any that have not watched him.

-- Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:28 pm --

As above. It's common sense to be fair.

Look at Newcastle with Carrol when they knew Liverpool would need a striker after selling Torres and they knew the cost of it. Carrol basically cost £25mill more than his value.

Carroll signed for Liverpool on the last day of the transfer window on 31 January 2011 for a fee of £35 million

Could be a clue to the price as well.

Last day of season had a fair bit to do with it but even if they had longer they wouldn't have got for much cheaper imo. Newcastle budgeted in that price for relegation and because he was English and young.

I reckon 25-30 would have been more likely but still not the £10m I think he is worth.

I basically meant that once a club knows you have cash and looking for a player then their demands go up. In another of your posts you say we should try and sell and buy at the same time. I'd say that is bang on the money but unfortunately some sides leak to try and better their position. I reckon Mario has been done for a while and I'd say we have been in for Falcoa for a while which is procisely how it should be done. It's not always this straight forward though and this deal has lengths to go yet.

 

[NipHolmes]

I doubt hugely Edin will go. I punted the others already.

Isco still stalling on that new deal isn't he? Malaga owners not payting out like promised but qualifed CL, do you think it coudl be pulled off In Jan or the Summer?

All three strikers will be gone, with the possible exception of Tevez, for problematic contractual reasons.

Not sure how serious the Isco interest even is.

January is covered in terms of spending.

If Falcao does choose Chelsea in January, I don't expect that money to burn a hole in our pocket.

Hypothetical question, nothing sinister, just interested in different takes.

Does Guardiola make any difference to Falcao's destination?

The lad Eriksson has just said he wants out at Ajax.

Decent option for us?

All three strikers will be gone, with the possible exception of Tevez, for problematic contractual reasons.

Am I reading this right? Aguero, Balotelli and Dzeko are being jibbed?

Tevez, Balo and Dzeko I read it as. Tevez being an exception because of wages and because his wages don't count towards FFP?<br /><br />-- Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:38 pm --<br /><br />

When the transfer window will be open ?

Jan 1st but most big deals are being sorted now I'd suspect.

One thing nobody has spoken of yet is the fact third party ownership is banned in this country. That is a massive hurdle and will need Madrid to buy those rights or allow for them when he is sold.

It's those guys that really drag it all out.

 

[sam-caddick]

I just personally believe that Mario will leave in January.

His new born will change his mindset completely, and a move to Milan looks quite likely in my opinion.

Milan are struggling desperately and obviously need a signing to keep the fans happy as well as to get them back up the table, no matter how much they are looking to save money and comply with FFPR.

Dzeko won't leave in January, not when he is cleary a perfect plan B for us, maybe he will in the Summer due to game time etc.. same with Tevez, he will see out his contract and go back to to SA.

 

[brian the blue]

So if we let Balotelli, Dzeko and Tevez go all in the attempt to sign Falcao and we fail? What happens then?

Especially considering it won't be long till Madrid come calling for Aguero.

 

[LoveCity]

If Tevez was going to leave before his contract expired it would have happened by now. Even PSG ran in terror from his wage demands. He is here until his contract ends, nailed on. If both Mario and Edin are here by the end of next summer I'll be surprised, at least one will surely go. Mario because of his inconsistency and attitude, Edin because he'll eventually get fed up of coming off the bench so much if he isn't already.

 

[alextheswede]

if he comes to us i'll be suprised, if he goes to chelsea i won't be.