Radamel Falcao Zarate

greasedupdeafguy said:
kun1 said:
he may be the best striker in the world but we don't really need him. unless we are gonna sell mario in january and tevez in the summer (he will have only one year in his contract by then) then yes but will he be available till then?? i don't know.
if we sell only mario and bring in falcao imagine kun, falcao, tevez and dzeko as our options. imagine how unhappy will dzeko be or the other strikers who will get rotated every game.if mario leaves we should replace him with guidetti no one else. i just hope he doesn't choose chelsea. let's hope psg gets him and chelsea stays with torres.
Thats why we need him, if we do get him either Balotelli/Dzeko will leave and guidetti will go out on loan leaving us with 4 strikers like we have now so I can't see it being much of an issue.
But you can't have 4 world class strikers in one team. You can't even have 3. These are players that are supposed to be playing every week, and that's not possible in a team with Aguero, Tevez, Falcao, and Dzeko.
 
SWP's back said:
xzbit04 said:
Guillem Balague today on Falcao's impending move-

"He's already got an offer on the table from PSG, which will make him the best paid player in the world but he's waiting to see if Chelsea, Man City or Real Madrid are actually going for him as well. He's got a suspicion Real and Chelsea are interested in going for him, but in the meantime the only offer is from PSG, so we'll see"
Judging by the source, I am now confident that Madrid, City & Chelsea have all put deals on the table and PSG haven't

-- Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:21 am --

MSP said:
I just can't see us beating Chelsea in this.. They are building great team, they can match our wages offer anytime and most importantly they are at the moment much more attractive option for striker. And then there's London too.

I'm trying to put myself in his head and I chose chelski anytime I do it.
They can't match our wage offer if we take it to extremes and how are they a more attractive option for a striker?

You really think Abramovich can't match our wage offer if he's pissed enough? Think again, he's not broke bloke at all and regularly beats competition for players when he genuinely decide to go for some.

And of course they are more attractive option for striker since competition for that place over there is almost non existent.
 
ElKun said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
kun1 said:
he may be the best striker in the world but we don't really need him. unless we are gonna sell mario in january and tevez in the summer (he will have only one year in his contract by then) then yes but will he be available till then?? i don't know.
if we sell only mario and bring in falcao imagine kun, falcao, tevez and dzeko as our options. imagine how unhappy will dzeko be or the other strikers who will get rotated every game.if mario leaves we should replace him with guidetti no one else. i just hope he doesn't choose chelsea. let's hope psg gets him and chelsea stays with torres.
Thats why we need him, if we do get him either Balotelli/Dzeko will leave and guidetti will go out on loan leaving us with 4 strikers like we have now so I can't see it being much of an issue.
But you can't have 4 world class strikers in one team. You can't even have 3. These are players that are supposed to be playing every week, and that's not possible in a team with Aguero, Tevez, Falcao, and Dzeko.
Well it looks as if Mancini thinks he can,why else were interested in RVP? Plus it would be only be for half a season that we would have 4 top class strikers as another would leave in the summer.
 
SWP's back said:
xzbit04 said:
Guillem Balague today on Falcao's impending move-

"He's already got an offer on the table from PSG, which will make him the best paid player in the world but he's waiting to see if Chelsea, Man City or Real Madrid are actually going for him as well. He's got a suspicion Real and Chelsea are interested in going for him, but in the meantime the only offer is from PSG, so we'll see"
Judging by the source, I am now confident that Madrid, City & Chelsea have all put deals on the table and PSG haven't

-- Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:21 am --

MSP said:
I just can't see us beating Chelsea in this.. They are building great team, they can match our wages offer anytime and most importantly they are at the moment much more attractive option for striker. And then there's London too.

I'm trying to put myself in his head and I chose chelski anytime I do it.
They can't match our wage offer if we take it to extremes and how are they a more attractive option for a striker?
How far can you go though? Abramovich would be able to match absolutely anything City will offer him if he really wanted to.
 
bapi said:
If Abramovich will really want him he'll offer anything.
Isn't that how they got Hazard we're more professional here you get the managers guarantee you'll play there the owner.
 
Armaan said:
SWP's back said:
xzbit04 said:
Guillem Balague today on Falcao's impending move-

"He's already got an offer on the table from PSG, which will make him the best paid player in the world but he's waiting to see if Chelsea, Man City or Real Madrid are actually going for him as well. He's got a suspicion Real and Chelsea are interested in going for him, but in the meantime the only offer is from PSG, so we'll see"
Judging by the source, I am now confident that Madrid, City & Chelsea have all put deals on the table and PSG haven't

-- Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:21 am --

MSP said:
I just can't see us beating Chelsea in this.. They are building great team, they can match our wages offer anytime and most importantly they are at the moment much more attractive option for striker. And then there's London too.

I'm trying to put myself in his head and I chose chelski anytime I do it.
They can't match our wage offer if we take it to extremes and how are they a more attractive option for a striker?
How far can you go though? Abramovich would be able to match absolutely anything City will offer him if he really wanted to.

Will Abromavitch stick to the rules? How he required his wealth was well dodgy a whisper in the agent ear promise the earth! We all know agent tells the player where he will end up!
 
ElKun said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
kun1 said:
he may be the best striker in the world but we don't really need him. unless we are gonna sell mario in january and tevez in the summer (he will have only one year in his contract by then) then yes but will he be available till then?? i don't know.
if we sell only mario and bring in falcao imagine kun, falcao, tevez and dzeko as our options. imagine how unhappy will dzeko be or the other strikers who will get rotated every game.if mario leaves we should replace him with guidetti no one else. i just hope he doesn't choose chelsea. let's hope psg gets him and chelsea stays with torres.
Thats why we need him, if we do get him either Balotelli/Dzeko will leave and guidetti will go out on loan leaving us with 4 strikers like we have now so I can't see it being much of an issue.
But you can't have 4 world class strikers in one team. You can't even have 3. These are players that are supposed to be playing every week, and that's not possible in a team with Aguero, Tevez, Falcao, and Dzeko.

Falcao's dream is to play in Real Madrid. But Atletico may not sell him to Real, we know why.

Falcao is the best striker in the world, but now I think that we need a winger.
Will be perfect sell Mario and get Falcao, but Mancini will never do it.

So, if Mancini really wants Falcao, I'm seeing Mario playing in the wing.

Nasri, Silva, Mario, Tevez, Aguero, Falcao, Dzeko. This seems unreal?! No, is perfect!! Look for Bayern attack: Ribery, Robben, Shaqiri, Muller,Kroos, Mandzukic, Pizzaro and Gomez.
 
kabuverdimcfc said:
Falcao's dream is to play in Real Madrid. But Atletico may not sell him to Real, we know why.

Falcao is the best striker in the world, but now I think that we need a winger.
Will be perfect sell Mario and get Falcao, but Mancini will never do it.

So, if Mancini really wants Falcao, I'm seeing Mario playing in the wing.

Nasri, Silva, Mario, Tevez, Aguero, Falcao, Dzeko. This seems unreal?! No, is perfect!! Look for Bayern attack: Ribery, Robben, Shaqiri, Muller,Kroos, Mandzukic, Pizzaro and Gomez.
Well, it's easy enough to say we'll play a striker out wide and automatically fix the winger problem, but it's not that simple in real life. The problem with having Nasri, Silva, Mario, Tevez, Aguero, Falcao, and Dzeko is they're ALL central players, and offer no natural width whatsoever, apart from maybe Nasri to a certain extent. Bayern have Muller, Kroos and Shaqiri, who are all versatile creative players, and Ribery and Robben, who are natural wingers who provide natural width, as well as 2 lethal center-forwards in Gomez and Mandzukic.

The two teams aren't even comparable IMO.
 
Falcao may be the best striker in the world right now, but he is not, I repeat, NOT a Mancity type striker. Don't get me wrong, he will score goals. Lots of goals. But he wouldn't drastically change our team for the better.


He is not that good of a ball passer, his interplay with teammates is pretty average. He is not the most technically sound footballer either.

What he is, is predatory. Matter of fact, the best example of a Falcao type player for me are Shane Long at WestBrom, and Chicharito at United. Perhaps more Chicarito than Long. But the way Long pounced fortuitously on that Odemwingie missed shot against us, is quite reminiscent of Falcao's instincts. And he plays almost like Chicharito. Hangs on the last defender and pounces on anything and everything.

These types of strikers, are much more successful in a "quick strike" offense, and not on a "build up" offense. For better or worse, we are a "build up" offense. We are a probe and prod offense.

And just for kicks, we already have a striker here who was great at quick strike football, and while he is not struggling here, he is clearly not lighting it up like a Christmas tree either, at least not until lately (Dzeko).

So as much as Falcao makes us all dreamy, he simply might not be the best type of striker for our offense. At least not as presently constituted. But because he is so much better than Long or Chicharito at doing what he does, he'd probably score a lot of goals regardless. But not enough in my opinion to justify the cost, or greatly improve our chances.

If you asked me, I'd rather a striker like Jovetic or Soldado. Neither of whom are half th striker Falcao is, but would probably improve us as much at a lower cost.
 

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