andyhinch
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Does this mean I can start going again?M18CTID said:
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Rags caught lying about attendances (merged)
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M18CTID
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andyhinch said:Does this mean I can start going again?M18CTID said:ChesterRdBlue said:The best bit of that is they still delude themselves that tickets are hard to come by, it justifies them never or rarely going whilst being able to latch on to something to enjoy a bit of success in their otherwise pathetic lives, without having to commit anything.
I know lads who at times can't give their tickets away for United, the same goes for us, but I don't try to convince the world otherwise.
Still, it gives us something to give them back when they waffle on about attendances, one of the last bits of their piss taking arsenal left which we haven't completely destroyed in the last few years....yet.
Spot on. It's easier to get hold of a ticket for a United home game these days than at any time in the last 20-odd years. Anyone on that thread saying demand is still high and tickets are difficult to get hold of is a lying bastard. That might be true for the biggest games but it's more of an exception than a rule these days. Plenty of their games go to general sale and some of the more popular ones are accessible by forking out £30 for a membership card. Plus anyone could've guaranteed their seat for every single United home game this season by buying a season ticket.
Yeah mate - a limited number of United seasoncards will be on general sale from August, just as they have been for the past 3 or 4 seasons. You don't need to be a member or be on a waiting list to buy one. Piece of piss ;)
ali benarbia's studs
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and for them falsifying numbers..... does this effect their income i.e. can they be sanctioned for illegal activity?
the scummy club are involved in dodgy goings on.... take `em down!!!
the scummy club are involved in dodgy goings on.... take `em down!!!
mancboy123
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While im sure all teams do this, the chasm is huge, im sure city do this 2 and maybe the discrepancy is 2 - 3 k but when over 10k people dont turn up and you report them as being there that s one seventh of their total attendance, i struggle to believe that they would sell 10k tkts and 10k people wouldnt turn up.
ali benarbia's studs
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agenda.... they only televise the picture of the stands which are sold out. they have multiple cardboard cut outs of phil jones, kagawa and bebe to use as covers on empty seats.CTID1988 said:You can clearly see on the TV pretty much every scum game is pretty much sold out though? There's a few hundred seats here and there but not in the thousands
agenda.
CITY FOR LIFE
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Re: Rags caught lying
scousemanc said:Well I found it interesting so thanks Paulpower[/quote
Yes and me, Wigan at home on Weds is already 45,867 when really there will be 38,0658 those crowds don't surprise me to be honest as half the time on tv there are loads of empty seats at OT.
Who do you believe, Man Utd or the Police? My eyes tell me that for the League games at any rate the ground is full.
The lad who sits next to me at work used to be a Utd season ticket holder. He stopped going many seasons ago but kept his ticket and used to sell the tickets and make money on it but it got to the point where he couldn't sell them so gave it up.
The link between MUFC and their local hard core support has been broken by the high ticket prices so they will be vulnerable to any dip in results, but it's not happened yet
The lad who sits next to me at work used to be a Utd season ticket holder. He stopped going many seasons ago but kept his ticket and used to sell the tickets and make money on it but it got to the point where he couldn't sell them so gave it up.
The link between MUFC and their local hard core support has been broken by the high ticket prices so they will be vulnerable to any dip in results, but it's not happened yet
40,000 empty seats, it's only the league cup...Lol.
Could they be any more stupid?
Manchester United are adding as many as 24,000 fans on to crowd attendances compared with the actual number of people watching games at Old Trafford, according to police data.
Sir Alex Ferguson's team have not had a single crowd over 70,000 for a league match, police say, not taking in Monday's game against Manchester City. The club, in contrast, recorded attendances in excess of 75,000 every time. Instead Greater Manchester police's figures claim the average crowd for league matches, excluding City, is 10,000 below what the club say. The police records state it is 65,601 rather than the official figure of 75,527. In all competitions it is 61,739 rather than the club's 73,653.
United are still the best-supported club in England by some distance but the new set of figures claim Old Trafford was not even half-full for the Capital One Cup tie against Newcastle in September. The police recorded the number of people who passed through the turnstiles at 33,409. United gave the crowd as 46,358. In the next round, against West Ham, the disparity was even bigger. The police put down the crowd as 51,724, whereas United recorded it as 71,081.
When United played Cluj in the Champions League in December, having qualified for the knockout stages, the crowd was announced as 71,521. In fact, the police say it was 46,894.
The disparity is because United, in common with other clubs, release the number of people who bought tickets, whether or not they attend. The police keep their own record of actual match-goers for safety purposes and have released the data to the Redsaway fans' website under the Freedom of Information Act.
The figures show the high number of supporters who will buy tickets for matches without going. Arsenal are among the clubs who suffer the same problem on a large scale.
United's largest crowd of the season for a league match, according to the police, was 69,933 for Liverpool's visit in January (the club put it at 75,501). The lowest was against Southampton later that month. On that occasion the official attendance was given at 75,600 when, according to the police, the genuine figure was 59,766. In other words, almost 16,000 ticket-holders stayed away.
The Real Madrid match in the Champions League attracted the one 70,000-plus attendance at Old Trafford this season, in the data. The police recorded it at 72,299 whereas United declared it was 74,959, lower than any domestic league match because of Uefa's seating restrictions.
Could they be any more stupid?
Manchester United are adding as many as 24,000 fans on to crowd attendances compared with the actual number of people watching games at Old Trafford, according to police data.
Sir Alex Ferguson's team have not had a single crowd over 70,000 for a league match, police say, not taking in Monday's game against Manchester City. The club, in contrast, recorded attendances in excess of 75,000 every time. Instead Greater Manchester police's figures claim the average crowd for league matches, excluding City, is 10,000 below what the club say. The police records state it is 65,601 rather than the official figure of 75,527. In all competitions it is 61,739 rather than the club's 73,653.
United are still the best-supported club in England by some distance but the new set of figures claim Old Trafford was not even half-full for the Capital One Cup tie against Newcastle in September. The police recorded the number of people who passed through the turnstiles at 33,409. United gave the crowd as 46,358. In the next round, against West Ham, the disparity was even bigger. The police put down the crowd as 51,724, whereas United recorded it as 71,081.
When United played Cluj in the Champions League in December, having qualified for the knockout stages, the crowd was announced as 71,521. In fact, the police say it was 46,894.
The disparity is because United, in common with other clubs, release the number of people who bought tickets, whether or not they attend. The police keep their own record of actual match-goers for safety purposes and have released the data to the Redsaway fans' website under the Freedom of Information Act.
The figures show the high number of supporters who will buy tickets for matches without going. Arsenal are among the clubs who suffer the same problem on a large scale.
United's largest crowd of the season for a league match, according to the police, was 69,933 for Liverpool's visit in January (the club put it at 75,501). The lowest was against Southampton later that month. On that occasion the official attendance was given at 75,600 when, according to the police, the genuine figure was 59,766. In other words, almost 16,000 ticket-holders stayed away.
The Real Madrid match in the Champions League attracted the one 70,000-plus attendance at Old Trafford this season, in the data. The police recorded it at 72,299 whereas United declared it was 74,959, lower than any domestic league match because of Uefa's seating restrictions.
M18CTID
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Marvin said:Who do you believe, Man Utd or the Police? My eyes tell me that for the League games at any rate the ground is full.
The lad who sits next to me at work used to be a Utd season ticket holder. He stopped going many seasons ago but kept his ticket and used to sell the tickets and make money on it but it got to the point where he couldn't sell them so gave it up.
The link between MUFC and their local hard core support has been broken by the high ticket prices so they will be vulnerable to any dip in results, but it's not happened yet
I suspect the truth lies somewhere between the GMP's figures and United's. I don't believe that many of their fans are buying tickets and not turning up but some are for sure, as is the case at our place.