Rags on TV

[Vienna_70]

Wio with his views on how to wound Mario up made me laugh

not how I remember Wembley in 2011

I don't remember camel gob winding Mario up on 23rd October 2011, either.

I was also appalled at how terrible gargoyle Phil was last night. As others have said, he made the boring Scouse rag bastard , Owen, sound interesting.

I am so disappointed at how poor the BBC's summarisers are. Mind you, considering that ITV has wankers like Pleat and Townsend, and Sky has Quinn, among others, there's not much to choose between them.

 

[Shaggy]

Lurch Neville and Mickey Owen go to Nigel Mansell for charisma lessons.

Wio Binks ruined star wars now ruining BBC football

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Phil Neville's elevation is a case in point about how, from united's point of view at least, a perfect circle exists in the media in terms of protecting their commercial interests.

Neville has neither the personality, the intellect, nor the vocabulary to offer anything worthwhile to the role of a 'number two' when commentating upon a leading football fixture, never mind a decisive England World Cup game. The fact this was his broadcasting debut is astonishing, or a rather it should be.

He was on FiveLive earlier trotting out the usual tired cliches about Rooney being our best player, simultaneously ignoring his failure to deliver in International Tournaments throughout the course of his twenties. That is, at least, worthy of debate, rather than being glibly dismissed out of hand, as Neville did.

I will accept Neville's response to the criticism of his debut was graceful and a refreshing change from the usual trivial one-upmanship of the Twitter Generation, but nonetheless he shouldn't have been there to respond to the criticism in the first place.

He is the classic example of someone over-promoted to the ranks of those who muse upon our game for a living. Disproportionally made up from people associated with Liverpool, united and Arsenal to an extent which is wholly disrespectful to fans of other clubs, who outnumber supporters of those clubs in terms of multiples.

This skewing of representation in the media allows those clubs to continue to dictate the narrative and advance the cause of their clubs' supposed cultural identity. 'The united way' only exists to the extent it does in the media because these former players are freely allowed to disseminate that message, without any challenge to its legitimacy.

Shame on the BBC for allowing such a dishonest state of affairs to not only exist, or continue, but also flourish. It's an absolute fucking disgrace.

 

[sir baconface]

Was listening to Roberto di Matteo being interviewed earlier today. Another example of someone who talks far better than the above suspects on football even though English is not his mother tongue.

BBC (andITV) don't believe in meritocracy, do they?

 

[Carver]

It was funny last night, Wio was asked to describe what it was like to defend against Aguero and Dzeko. He said that Dzeko was quick and difficult to defend against, especially when he gets the ball wide out left and then comes in. He described Aguero as the best striker that he's played against because he can go either side and because he's as equally strong you can't shepherd him onto his weaker side' He then said something like words to the effect that he was well beaten in one game....

No Wio, you were arse raped by by Aguero in the 4-1 at the Etihad. You did little better at the swamp when you were crucified by Balotelli, Aguero and Dzeko in the 1-6, by Dzeko in the 0-3 and by Aguero in the 4-1. You were bloody lucky that Aguero wasn't fully match fit in the 1-2 as well.

 

[lunebleu]

Phil Neville's elevation is a case in point about how, from united's point of view at least, a perfect circle exists in the media in terms of protecting their commercial interests.

Neville has neither the personality, the intellect, nor the vocabulary to offer anything worthwhile to the role of a 'number two' when commentating upon a leading football fixture, never mind a decisive England World Cup game. The fact this was his broadcasting debut is astonishing, or a rather it should be.

He was on FiveLive earlier trotting out the usual tired cliches about Rooney being our best player, simultaneously ignoring his failure to deliver in International Tournaments throughout the course of his twenties. That is, at least, worthy of debate, rather than being glibly dismissed out of hand, as Neville did.

I will accept Neville's response to the criticism of his debut was graceful and a refreshing change from the usual trivial one-upmanship of the Twitter Generation, but nonetheless he shouldn't have been there to respond to the criticism in the first place.

He is the classic example of someone over-promoted to the ranks of those who muse upon our game for a living. Disproportionally made up from people associated with Liverpool, united and Arsenal to an extent which is wholly disrespectful to fans of other clubs, who outnumber supporters of those clubs in terms of multiples.

This skewing of representation in the media allows those clubs to continue to dictate the narrative and advance the cause of their clubs' supposed cultural identity. 'The united way' only exists to the extent it does in the media because these former players are freely allowed to disseminate that message, without any challenge to its legitimacy.

Shame on the BBC for allowing such a dishonest state of affairs to not only exist, or continue, but also flourish. It's an absolute fucking disgrace.

Sums up my views exactly. I assume the BBC ,in their usual amateur way, thought they could emulate brother Gary's success on Sky. However he was a complete disaster, Like Owen, talks too much----,analysing everthing [,bar the ref scratching his arse], in his boring flat monotone voice Other than being an ex-player[surprise surprise Rag] ----why would you employ a total broadcasting amateur/novice at the worlds most prestigious footie occasion?
Bizarre.

 

[baildon blue]

The BBC have always been biased towards the Rags . In the good old 80s Bobby Charlton used to work for them.

 

[dom]

Phil Neville's elevation is a case in point about how, from united's point of view at least, a perfect circle exists in the media in terms of protecting their commercial interests.

Neville has neither the personality, the intellect, nor the vocabulary to offer anything worthwhile to the role of a 'number two' when commentating upon a leading football fixture, never mind a decisive England World Cup game. The fact this was his broadcasting debut is astonishing, or a rather it should be.

He was on FiveLive earlier trotting out the usual tired cliches about Rooney being our best player, simultaneously ignoring his failure to deliver in International Tournaments throughout the course of his twenties. That is, at least, worthy of debate, rather than being glibly dismissed out of hand, as Neville did.

I will accept Neville's response to the criticism of his debut was graceful and a refreshing change from the usual trivial one-upmanship of the Twitter Generation, but nonetheless he shouldn't have been there to respond to the criticism in the first place.

He is the classic example of someone over-promoted to the ranks of those who muse upon our game for a living. Disproportionally made up from people associated with Liverpool, united and Arsenal to an extent which is wholly disrespectful to fans of other clubs, who outnumber supporters of those clubs in terms of multiples.

This skewing of representation in the media allows those clubs to continue to dictate the narrative and advance the cause of their clubs' supposed cultural identity. 'The united way' only exists to the extent it does in the media because these former players are freely allowed to disseminate that message, without any challenge to its legitimacy.

Shame on the BBC for allowing such a dishonest state of affairs to not only exist, or continue, but also flourish. It's an absolute fucking disgrace.

GDM

Chapeaux and respect

That one post sums up so much for me ... excellent shout mate and an excellnet summary of so many disparate dimesions of the so-called 'agenda' debate
as you rightly infer, the issue is not so much primarily anti-City , rather , it is the ancienne regime clubs still kidding the media hierarchy that, as ancienne regime, they are automatically better analysts and commentators.. most sports editors seem to be lazy conformists so ex rags / red dippers wil have a field day fighting their dishonest rearguard actions against the tide of fate

The irony is that, the shitter they are , they more their cause backfires (viz Mickey Flintshire fake English, scouse /rag numbskull Owen)

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Shame on the BBC for allowing such a dishonest state of affairs to not only exist, or continue, but also flourish. It's an absolute fucking disgrace.

The BBC used to be the hallmark for the quality of its production values but with their football coverage they've thrown all that away to go downmarket. The fact that opinionated, talentless, racist lump of lard Alan Green still has a job is the proof of that. The fact no one seems to have given Phil Neville some sort of clue as to what's expected of him or applied any sort of quality control to his output before inflicting it on us is further proof. And then there's Lawrenson, with his village idiot asides, who sounds like he's doing us all a real big favour just being there to entertain us when he'd really rather be in the pub or with his feet up in front of the TV. It's fucking shocking.

I'm not a professional footballer or qualified coach, so I want someone who vis to tell me why x beat y, why they lost the midfield battle or give me some other insight. There can't just be Gary Neville who can do that. Surely there are others who can do it?

 

[Unknown_Genius]

The best pundits all seem to be the foreign ones for this World Cup.