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[ono]

You are totally missing the point. 2m or 5m isn't a deal breaker if it's within your limits. You can haggle for 30 seconds over it as long as it's within your parameters.
If I go to buy a car for 20K offer 19K and the sales man says '19.5K' then I can say yes to 500 quid extra in the blink of an eye. If he asks for 20.5K ( more than the car is worth to me) then I'm not going to pay it, even if the salesman says 'oh go on, it's only 500 quid more'.

If City's limit was 45m and we offered 40, but Liverpool asked for 45, we'd do the deal their and them. 5 million quid 'more' spent in 30 seconds. No problem. Because our limit was always 45, and that 5m didn't take us over it!
If Liverpool want 5m over our limit (based on OUR calculations) then we simply won't pay it because it's bad business for us and the City team will already know what is and isn't in the allowable range!

No I totally understand the point. It might be bad business sense in the short term, but if we have to settle for our back up targets we will probably also have to settle for not winning the league or the Champions League and that means that next summer we will waste yet more money trying to replace the players we've bought this summer or last summer (where we made the same mistake).

Look at the money we have wasted trying to replace De Jong. We've spent £25m - £30m on transfer fees alone on Garcia and Fernando, plus wages, agent fees and signing on fees. And both players are a level below Nigel.

We apparently didn't want to pay Hazard's agent an overly large amount so instead we opted for Sinclair, a player who we have subsequently taken a loss of about £7m.

And as with Hazard, if we won't pay it, our rivals will and that player might play an integral part in them winning something.

That's my point. For the record I don't think Sterling is worth anywhere close to what we are going to pay for him, but if the boss man thinks has worth the money, then haggling over £5m is pretty pointless.

 

[FootieFan86]

I think you may have hit the nail on the head there 72.

Not only that, I fear that there's a conspiracy amongst the 'so called big European clubs, in agreeing not to sell to us either... While, at the same time, quite happily doing so amongst themselves. (for massively over inflated fees).

Perfect way of ensuring that the quality of our squad will slowly deteriorate, over time, (Look what's happened since 2012) ensuring that we will "soon be put back in our rightful place," and no longer pose a threat to "the elite"

Sounds like a alot of paranoia there.

Your dealing with FSG,who with owning the RedSoX deal with player multi year contracts worth over 100 of millions of dollars ,they are well versed in it for competing with teams to get top free agents and trading players for better upgrades.

No wonder Liverpool under FSG are a a hard shell to crack when negotiating,they're well versed in trying to get the best deal possible and that's why torres and Suarez went for so much money.And with their history in finance mixed with sports ownership it's no wonder they're are shrewd when negotiating and if the £50 million value isn't met for this window they will already have a plan in place in future to get a good deal that suits FSG/Liverpool.

 

[FanchesterCity]

Sounds like a alot of paranoia there.

Your dealing with FSG,who with owning the RedSoX deal with player multi year contracts worth over 100 of millions of dollars ,they are well versed in it for competing with teams to get top free agents and trading players for better upgrades.

No wonder Liverpool under FSG are a a hard shell to crack when negotiating,they're well versed in trying to get the best deal possible and that's why torres and Suarez went for so much money.And with their history in finance mixed with sports ownership it's no wonder they're are shrewd when negotiating and if the £50 million value isn't met for this window they will already have a plan in place in future to get a good deal that suits FSG/Liverpool.

You do understand that sports clubs are pitifully small business don't you?
Did you know the turnover for BP alone exceeds that of EVERY football club in the world combined?
Honestly, FSG are no world beaters. That's not denigrating them, just putting some perspective on your assertions.

 

[CityFan94]

Just get this one done.

Haggling over £5 million. Really?

Sterling is away on Liverpool's pre-season tour when he clearly wants to sign for us and should be on our tour.

This should have been done at the start of the window, long before pre-season training started and the Sterling incidents this week would have been avoided.

It's poor from us that this has dragged on as long as it has. We know the asking price. Pay it.

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

Sounds like a alot of paranoia there.

Your dealing with FSG,who with owning the RedSoX deal with player multi year contracts worth over 100 of millions of dollars ,they are well versed in it for competing with teams to get top free agents and trading players for better upgrades.

No wonder Liverpool under FSG are a a hard shell to crack when negotiating,they're well versed in trying to get the best deal possible and that's why torres and Suarez went for so much money.And with their history in finance mixed with sports ownership it's no wonder they're are shrewd when negotiating and if the £50 million value isn't met for this window they will already have a plan in place in future to get a good deal that suits FSG/Liverpool.

And your dealing with an owner who has barack obama on speed dial. I think we'll be ok.

 

[paulchapo]

Ok time to stop fucking about and get him signed now or we are going to end up with losing MillnerLampsrd and co and signing nobody at this rate!

 

[Daz_Blue]

And your dealing with an owner who has barack obama on speed dial. I think we'll be ok.

Sarah Palin thinks speed dial is the number you call for a meth dealer ....

 

[Neville Kneville]

No I totally understand the point. It might be bad business sense in the short term, but if we have to settle for our back up targets we will probably also have to settle for not winning the league or the Champions League and that means that next summer we will waste yet more money trying to replace the players we've bought this summer or last summer (where we made the same mistake).

Look at the money we have wasted trying to replace De Jong. We've spent £25m - £30m on transfer fees alone on Garcia and Fernando, plus wages, agent fees and signing on fees. And both players are a level below Nigel.

We apparently didn't want to pay Hazard's agent an overly large amount so instead we opted for Sinclair, a player who we have subsequently taken a loss of about £7m.

And as with Hazard, if we won't pay it, our rivals will and that player might play an integral part in them winning something.

That's my point. For the record I don't think Sterling is worth anywhere close to what we are going to pay for him, but if the boss man thinks has worth the money, then haggling over £5m is pretty pointless.

Sinclair wasn't a replacement for Hazard ffs.

And when we missed Hazard, we won the title with one of the signings getting 20 goals & leaving for 20 mil +

Other clubs' fans tend to be happy about stuff like that rather than seeing it as a bad period.

 

[yayas trusty right foot]

In the future,might it be a better idea to agree everything with the selling club first and then agree terms with the player ?

 

[Sergi0 Na5r1]

Ok time to stop fucking about and get him signed now or we are going to end up with losing MillnerLampsrd and co and signing nobody at this rate!

Talking to wrong peeps mate. You'd have to talk to someone at least above the 'fan' level.