Recruitment issues

mancity1 said:
Our transfer business has by and large been below what it should be for a number of windows now.

Hopefully Dias will be Kompany mark two but the fact that we still rely heavily on Kun in his 9th season now says alot.

Haven't found a gem under the radar for many a year IMO ,we basically wait for others to show their wears in other lesser teams and pay what they ask for.

That is not a strategy destined for long term success.
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You say we should buy gems under the radar but this Summer we really need a proven central defender and not a player who will be good in 18 months time. In other positions we have bought players like Jesus and Sane. KDB came with a Chelsea question mark too.
 
alexmcity said:
No, that's wrong. Fernandinho got injured in February 2019, Gundogan replaced him and we continued to be rock solid at the back, even with Zinchenko at LB! Why? Mostly because we had Kompany and Laporte at CB.

Also Fernandinho was crap in Pep's first season to the extent that Pep had to play Toure at DM. This myth that our defensive stability was all down to Fernandinho has to die. It's silly and it is also a big reason why both Rodri and Gundogan are heavily criticised for the mistakes of the defenders.

Our defence suffered badly from several simple things: Kompany retired, Laporte got injured, Stones had personal problems and permanent injuries, Otamendi declined. Suddenly, all our CBs from 17/19 were unavailable for one or another reason and we played almost the entire 19/20 season with a makeshift defence. Yet, many on here still think it's mostly about not having Fernandinho at DM. Utterly simplistic.
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In the formidables season Fernandinho was magnificent , he was injured towards the end of the season and Gunogan came in and was equally magnificent.

Fernandinho at his peak was the most underrated footballer in world football, he was an incredible footballer, leader, inspiration and a physical freak in terms of strength and stamina.

To say this guy is a myth is one of the greatest insults you could give any city player in the history of this club.

Utterly and totally insulting.
 
Ribchester said:
The only “strategy” I’ve seen was to get Pep, and it worked, the same attitude should have been more visible to us all in replacing key players aligned to their ages and contracts without even considering form or injury.
Zabba, Vinnie, YaYa, David, Kun should have had the targets all ready to sign at any cost regarding fee and contract if we had evolved we would have at least 2 more PL titles in the bag and would not be where we are today. General view being we need a transition period. Hate to say this but that is not how GPC operated he’d have replacements lined up and smoothly reengineered the rags in flight. Classic example of a “strategy” was getting Van Nistleroy 1 year before he needed him even allowed for a serious pre contract injury.
The other thing we’re evidently not doing is quick fixes the minute Piss Can lost the league to us he extends his contract for a year and quick fix Van Persie is bought and they win the league.
Where is our strategic target for Aguero... ain’t got one otherwise he’d be here...where’s our quick fix target ...ain’t got one.,
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Utd dominated transfer markets. If they wanted the best young forward in English football they could get him in Wayne Rooney. Or if they wanted Rio from Leeds they got him. Then along came Blackburn, Chelsea and then Manchester City and football changed. Once we had a monopoly, or duopoly, now there are 4-5 clubs vying for top players.

City for a brief period bought what was required but Utd and Arsenal regulated against us and now we can't buy as we used to. I don't think we ever wanted to anyway. Our owners want a financial return just like any other big boss
 
Keeper! said:
In the formidables season Fernandinho was magnificent , he was injured towards the end of the season and Gunogan came in and was equally magnificent.

Fernandinho at his peak was the most underrated footballer in world football, he was an incredible footballer, leader, inspiration and a physical freak in terms of strength and stamina.

To say this guy is a myth is one of the greatest insults you could give any city player in the history of this club.

Utterly and totally insulting.
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It's a myth that our defensive stability was mostly down to Fernandinho, not that he was the best DM around. You are conflating two different things.

If last season we had both Kompany and Laporte in the form they showed in 2019, we would have been a completely different team. Posts like yours underestimate the CB crisis we had and overestimate the defensive protection Fernandinho provided. It will become clear already this season once Dias and Laporte form a partnership (fingers crossed!). We can be solid in defence even without Fernandinho in midfield (which doesn't imply that he wasn't the best DM in the world August 2017/February 2019).
 
Keeper! said:
In the formidables season Fernandinho was magnificent , he was injured towards the end of the season and Gunogan came in and was equally magnificent.

Fernandinho at his peak was the most underrated footballer in world football, he was an incredible footballer, leader, inspiration and a physical freak in terms of strength and stamina.

To say this guy is a myth is one of the greatest insults you could give any city player in the history of this club.

Utterly and totally insulting.
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alexmcity said:
It's a myth that our defensive stability was mostly down to Fernandinho, not that he was the best DM around. You are conflating two different things.

If last season we had both Kompany and Laporte in the form they showed in 2019, we would have been a completely different team. Posts like yours underestimate the CB crisis we had and overestimate the defensive protection Fernandinho provided. It will become clear already this season once Dias and Laporte form a partnership (fingers crossed!). We can be solid in defence even without Fernandinho in midfield (which doesn't imply that he wasn't the best DM in the world August 2017/February 2019).
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Believe what you want, what Fernandinho brought to that side was incredible, he did the dirty work, the work that allowed the footballers to shine and do their thing, and the thing we no longer have at this football club.
 
Marvin said:
Utd dominated transfer markets. If they wanted the best young forward in English football they could get him in Wayne Rooney. Or if they wanted Rio from Leeds they got him. Then along came Blackburn, Chelsea and then Manchester City and football changed. Once we had a monopoly, or duopoly, now there are 4-5 clubs vying for top players.

City for a brief period bought what was required but Utd and Arsenal regulated against us and now we can't buy as we used to. I don't think we ever wanted to anyway. Our owners want a financial return just like any other big boss
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Well said, liverpool did the same in the 80s, always bought the best players of the best young up and coming talent.

It what all the clubs that dominate do, Real, and Barca in Spain, Bayern in Germany.

It's a myth that the best teams are not the ones that spend the most money.

If our owners want to to continue winning titles and to win the Champions League they will have to pay the top transfer fees and pay the highest wages.
 
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