Ref Watch

It’s interesting today that the FA’s response to the Mike Dean revelation is dismay that it has come to light - if they had any integrity they’d be launching an immediate enquiry to understand what the hell is going on… instead we will be treated to another weekend of apologies whilst Mr Corruption himself Howard Webb remains at the helm. The whole PIGMOL organisation is rotten to the core, it lacks integrity, there are too many errors and mistakes being made for them to be passed of as errors and incompetence. A few officials are probably on the take from betting syndicates.
 
Paladin said:
I worked for a regulated utility in the UK for forty years. As a privatised industry enjoying monopoly status in our area, we were heavily regulated. Auditors used to come along each year asking us to prove what we entered in our submissions was accurate. They could ask us anything, and we would have to give examples that verified our statements. This kept us honest.

The trouble with PGMOL and VAR is that they are their own regulators. They are accountable to nobody but themselves, with Webb being the top man, gradually weeding out those who don't toe the line or are incompetent (Swarbrick, Dean), and replacing them with his trusted allies (Moss). They are becoming an organisation with a dictator, assisted by cronies and yes men.

Webb has had a year to bed in now. He is talking about releasing VAR conversations for certain incidents, to demonstrate the transparency they claim to want. Which incidents though? Those chosen by Webb himself, because they will not be controversial.

This is not good enough. Coupled with the PGMOL statement today in response to Dean's revelation, we have an organisation that looks increasingly unfit for purpose.

They could build bridges and start to restore confidence immediately with some simple measures:

1. All VAR conversations for the duration of each game to be recorded and stored.

2. Create a team of independent auditors (experienced sports people from other sports, with no allegiances), tasked with reviewing all controversial incidents.

3. Webb to review on TV certain VAR incidents, but chosen based on public perception of the decision, not Webb's selected incidents.

If these charlatans know their conversations and decisions might enter the public domain, you can guarantee things like the Wolves penalty, the Rashford offside would have different, more reasonable outcomes and PGMOL apologies would be significantly reduced.
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4.Make the red shite in Trafford and the red shite in Murkyside install screens so the away fans can see themselves being fucked over again and again in slo mo.
 
The only way Dean admits this, is if a collective decision was made from the entire organisation not to undermine one another when making a decision, which is basically railing against the introduction of VAR, and been in place since it’s inception, or as we all suspect, VAR has been used to manipulate the outcome of games. Dean is quite smart because he has cleansed his sins and fired a warning shot at the same time, he knows there are much bigger incidents in play here, such as the Rashford offside, the big question is what else does he know ?
 
Jesus H Gabz said:
The only way Dean admits this, is if a collective decision was made from the entire organisation not to undermine one another when making a decision, which is basically railing against the introduction of VAR, and been in place since it’s inception, or as we all suspect, VAR has been used to manipulate the outcome of games. Dean is quite smart because he has cleansed his sins and fired a warning shot at the same time, he knows there are much bigger incidents in play here, such as the Rashford offside, the big question is what else does he know ?
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Dean is definitely a loose cannon. The transfer from top flight refereeing to VAR must pretty much be automatic, and I reckon Webb couldn't wait to get rid of him. Same with Mason. Webb only wants compliant officials working for him. He'd have a team of Attwells or Cootes if he could.
 
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TinFoilHat said:
Mike Dean loves the lime light. I'm convinced some of his decisions have been made so he spends enough time on camera for him to knock one out when he gets home.
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It was always awful when dean was reffing a game because you knew he would take any opportunity to make the game about him and that has permeated through the game, we shouldnt know the names of the refs, they shouldnt be part of the narrative but now are more often than not
 
mancboy said:
It was always awful when dean was reffing a game because you knew he would take any opportunity to make the game about him and that has permeated through the game, we shouldnt know the names of the refs, they shouldnt be part of the narrative but now are more often than not
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It’s a great point, growing up the only refs name I can remember was George Courtney, they were all old men, ex Pe teachers & from Solihull or somewhere more obscure. Collina made refereeing en vogue, and all the prancing preening prat’s followed
 
Jesus H Gabz said:
It’s a great point, growing up the only refs name I can remember was George Courtney, they were all old men, ex Pe teachers & from Solihull or somewhere more obscure. Collina made refereeing en vogue, and all the prancing preening prat’s followed
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The likes of Poll , Rennie and that public school teacher Ellary, and the quality is no better today
 
The pool of refs used in the PL is too small making it easy for the likes of Webb to direct them on a chosen agenda.

Also the selecting of officials for specific games should be done randomly in public.
 
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