Ref Watch

[East Level 2]

• SENDING OFF OFFENCES ;)
• denying a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity to an opponent whose overall movement is towards the offender's goal by an offence punishable by a free kick (unless as outlined below)
• Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offending player is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off.

So nothing about (second) yellow cards as I said, and Milner's late offence is the most clear cut regarding the incompetence showed by Tierney yesterday.
The Foden incident looked like a foul, initially outside the box. It might have been given had he gone down after the stumble (as ALL rags and dippers would have done) rather than stayed on his feet. That shouldn't affect whether an offence has been committed and VAR should have reviewed whether it was inside the box. - It's possible VAR did review it and either decided it wasn't a foul or that it was outside the box. I don't believe VAR can call for a free kick once they've decided it was outside the box.

 

[Gray]

So nothing about (second) yellow cards as I said, and Milner's late offence is the most clear cut regarding the incompetence showed by Tierney yesterday.
The Foden incident looked like a foul, initially outside the box. It might have been given had he gone down after the stumble (as ALL rags and dippers would have done) rather than stayed on his feet. That shouldn't affect whether an offence has been committed and VAR should have reviewed whether it was inside the box. - It's possible VAR did review it and either decided it wasn't a foul or that it was outside the box. I don't believe VAR can call for a free kick once they've decided it was outside the box.

Who has a video of these incidents? Club video only showed the first which didn't in all honesty look too bad.

 

[skivitheblue9320]

Cheating, no other word needed. Let’s just call it as it was and as it will always be!

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

So nothing about (second) yellow cards as I said, and Milner's late offence is the most clear cut regarding the incompetence showed by Tierney yesterday.
The Foden incident looked like a foul, initially outside the box. It might have been given had he gone down after the stumble (as ALL rags and dippers would have done) rather than stayed on his feet. That shouldn't affect whether an offence has been committed and VAR should have reviewed whether it was inside the box. - It's possible VAR did review it and either decided it wasn't a foul or that it was outside the box. I don't believe VAR can call for a free kick once they've decided it was outside the box.

Incompetence isn't the word I would use. Tierney probably has the clearest understanding of the LotG that would put him on a par with the FOCs from CBL3 Referees Section. He chose not to apply the law as it is written, and that doesn't fall into the category of incompetence, it is brass-necked cheating. Or to give him some credit, he was probably shit-scared of doing anything that would incur the Dipper wrath. You can't legislate for what some of those 'fans' might deem appropriate behaviour if the laws were applied scrupulously in both halves of the pitch. We were shafted by a shit-poor ref, again! And those canutes in the VAR shed.

 

[Marvin]

Incompetence isn't the word I would use. Tierney probably has the clearest understanding of the LotG that would put him on a par with the FOCs from CBL3 Referees Section. He chose not to apply the law as it is written, and that doesn't fall into the category of incompetence, it is brass-necked cheating. Or to give him some credit, he was probably shit-scared of doing anything that would incur the Dipper wrath. You can't legislate for what some of those 'fans' might deem appropriate behaviour if the laws were applied scrupulously in both halves of the pitch. We were shafted by a shit-poor ref, again! And those canutes in the VAR shed.

This is the point I would make too. That ref was not incompetent, he just didn't have the bottle to make unpopular calls. Liverpool and Manchester United have been benefiting from decisions like this for decades and nothing in changing.

VAR doesn't work to redress the balance because they uses that selectively too. There is no solution to this apart from may be highlighting it when it happens.

 

[East Level 2]

We have seen plenty of those in favour of the opposition where City are concerned. Yet City are " ruining football ".

City are ruining football for the teams that think they own football. They are also ruining it for the main broadcaster who knows the rags and dippers, and possibly Arse and Spuds have more armchair supporters.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

This is the point I would make too. That ref was not incompetent, he just didn't have the bottle to make unpopular calls. Liverpool and Manchester United have been benefiting from decisions like this for decades and nothing in changing.

VAR doesn't work to redress the balance because they uses that selectively too. There is no solution to this apart from may be highlighting it when it happens.

PiGMOL, the FA, Uefa, FIFA have everything going for them. They are frightened to death of adopting the transparency which is part of other sports' decision making. The only explanation is that they want to arrive at results that suit them. That game yesterday is another in a long line where the 'powers that whistle' salvaged something from the match by ensuring the LotG were sufficiently 'bent' to avoid some unfavourable decision being taken - Jimmy Avarice off for an early bath. Tierney is the last kind of human being who should be in charge of any game of football. He exhibits cowardice when courage is needed.

 

[Champions again in 2012]

Any views from Dermot Gallagher yet on Tierneys masterclass yesterday

 

[Blue Mist]

Please fuck off. I'm not denying the implementation of VAR is as bent as a nine bob note, but the penalty was nowhere near as clear cut as Milner's second yellow, but VAR does not review yellow card offences.
VAR would be OK if it wasn't being used by the PL to promote the teams that generate most broadcast revenue. It might also be improved if the buffoons at Stockley Park weren't as blind and incompetent as the Muppets on the pitch.

First point it was a foul. Inside or outside the box doesn't matter. It's a foul, then he decides if milner is the last man, if he thinks so it is a red card as there was no attempt to play the ball. Then he decides if it is a penalty or not. With all 3 decisions he has the var ref to help him.
He did not want to have to send Milner off so he took the simple decision to make no decision.

 

[Blue Mist]

Seen a few games now with Alty Taylor as ref since our game with Spurs, he hasn’t treated any other player like Tanganga, where they are continuously allowed to foul and not be booked and even talked with the captain, the referees definitely officiate matches differently when City play

Which means they have been told to by someone.