Ref Watch

[Skip Donoghue]

I'd like to know if Stockley Park can here the Sky and BT commentary, because if Nevile or Carragher etal say "the player got a touch" or that's not a pen" etc, the VAR decision seems to follow their view, like yesterday Tyler and Nevile were quick to say Telles got a touch, which granted he did slightly, but he still fouls Jesus on the follow through, which should have been a foul and pen, but straight away VAR gave no pen,
It's like they all want to have their ducks in a line and are singing from the same hymn sheet

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Popped this in the Rags thread, but thought it deserved a repost to show just how abnormal OliVAR was yesterday.

"Oddly though, by 70 minutes the foul count was 20 tackles with 2 fouls to the Rags, we had 26 tackles and 12 fouls. So 1 in every 10 Rag fouls in the first 70 minutes was a foul, whilst nearly 1 in 2 for us."

Fouls first 70 minutes:

After 70 minutes, the Rags had 18 tackles and gave away 7 fouls, so up to nearly 1 in 2, whilst we attempted just 2 tackles and no fouls. Utterly bizarre if it was honest...

Fouls (after 70 minutes):

So we end up with the Rags at 38 tackles with 9 fouls so around 1 in 4. We ended up at 28 tackles and 12 fouls, so just under 1 in 2. So we were still punished twice as often, but up to 70 minutes we were punished 5 times as often. Plus we didn't get the pen and Ronaldo should have been sent off.

If that's not game management, I don't know what is. His stats would have looked completely fucking stupid without that late spurt to correct him. Almost like someone had a word in his ear at exactly 70 minutes and told him he needed to pad his stats.

 

[eyalluvitt]

Popped this in the Rags thread, but thought it deserved a repost to show just how abnormal OliVAR was yesterday.

"Oddly though, by 70 minutes the foul count was 20 tackles with 2 fouls to the Rags, we had 26 tackles and 12 fouls. So 1 in every 10 Rag fouls in the first 70 minutes was a foul, whilst nearly 1 in 2 for us."

Fouls first 70 minutes:

After 70 minutes, the Rags had 18 tackles and gave away 7 fouls, so up to nearly 1 in 2, whilst we attempted just 2 tackles and no fouls. Utterly bizarre if it was honest...

Fouls (after 70 minutes):

So we end up with the Rags at 38 tackles with 9 fouls so around 1 in 4. We ended up at 28 tackles and 12 fouls, so just under 1 in 2. So we were still punished twice as often, but up to 70 minutes we were punished 5 times as often. Plus we didn't get the pen and Ronaldo should have been sent off.

If that's not game management, I don't know what is. His stats would have looked completely fucking stupid without that late spurt to correct him. Almost like someone had a word in his ear at exactly 70 minutes and told him he needed to pad his stats.

Maybe he got a text our Cheque had cleared with 20 mins to go.

 

[1961_vintage]

I'd like to know if Stockley Park can hear the Sky and BT commentary

Would be astonished if they didn't.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

I'd like to know if Stockley Park can here the Sky and BT commentary, because if Nevile or Carragher etal say "the player got a touch" or that's not a pen" etc, the VAR decision seems to follow their view, like yesterday Tyler and Nevile were quick to say Telles got a touch, which granted he did slightly, but he still fouls Jesus on the follow through, which should have been a foul and pen, but straight away VAR gave no pen,
It's like they all want to have their ducks in a line and are singing from the same hymn sheet

Isn’t that why they have a match commander, who could be an analyst, who gauges the audience before making the decision?

 

[crazyg]

On the Norwich penalty - it's in the laws - the ref was correct. If it's in the area and deemed an attempt at playing the ball, then it's penalty+yellow. Basically the intention it to prevent a fair but slightly mistimed challenge getting both a goal and a sending-off double whammy.

"Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offender is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off."

Just like Milner was at Klanfield when he brought down Foden.

Oh, hang on.......

 

[knuckles]

Popped this in the Rags thread, but thought it deserved a repost to show just how abnormal OliVAR was yesterday.

"Oddly though, by 70 minutes the foul count was 20 tackles with 2 fouls to the Rags, we had 26 tackles and 12 fouls. So 1 in every 10 Rag fouls in the first 70 minutes was a foul, whilst nearly 1 in 2 for us."

Fouls first 70 minutes:

After 70 minutes, the Rags had 18 tackles and gave away 7 fouls, so up to nearly 1 in 2, whilst we attempted just 2 tackles and no fouls. Utterly bizarre if it was honest...

Fouls (after 70 minutes):

So we end up with the Rags at 38 tackles with 9 fouls so around 1 in 4. We ended up at 28 tackles and 12 fouls, so just under 1 in 2. So we were still punished twice as often, but up to 70 minutes we were punished 5 times as often. Plus we didn't get the pen and Ronaldo should have been sent off.

If that's not game management, I don't know what is. His stats would have looked completely fucking stupid without that late spurt to correct him. Almost like someone had a word in his ear at exactly 70 minutes and told him he needed to pad his stats.

Do you collect stats like this for all our games? Be really interesting to see if this really is a trend - I mean I believe it is, but be great to see statistical 'evidence'

 

[blueju]

Oliver.

Consistently hard to see how this a referee is not under biased PIGMOL and others influence when reffing City games.

Commentators said he’s one of the best!

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Popped this in the Rags thread, but thought it deserved a repost to show just how abnormal OliVAR was yesterday.

"Oddly though, by 70 minutes the foul count was 20 tackles with 2 fouls to the Rags, we had 26 tackles and 12 fouls. So 1 in every 10 Rag fouls in the first 70 minutes was a foul, whilst nearly 1 in 2 for us."

Fouls first 70 minutes:

After 70 minutes, the Rags had 18 tackles and gave away 7 fouls, so up to nearly 1 in 2, whilst we attempted just 2 tackles and no fouls. Utterly bizarre if it was honest...

Fouls (after 70 minutes):

So we end up with the Rags at 38 tackles with 9 fouls so around 1 in 4. We ended up at 28 tackles and 12 fouls, so just under 1 in 2. So we were still punished twice as often, but up to 70 minutes we were punished 5 times as often. Plus we didn't get the pen and Ronaldo should have been sent off.

If that's not game management, I don't know what is. His stats would have looked completely fucking stupid without that late spurt to correct him. Almost like someone had a word in his ear at exactly 70 minutes and told him he needed to pad his stats.

Every fucking game seems to play out like this.

It can't be anything other than bent.

 

[Cotontoquinn]

Every fucking game seems to play out like this.

I can't be anything other than bent.

Brave of you to come out. Might get you a few more Likes.