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Trevor Morley's Tache said:
That was after the late flurry of fouls against them toward the end of the game to pad out the stats.
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It was 12 fouls to 2 at one stage which summed up the cheats performance. Also Maguire and Ronaldo should have had yellows in the 1st half, both bottled. Ronaldo at the end should have been a straight red but again he bottled it and gave a yellow, which means it cant be looked at retrospectively i believe.
Yesterday was openly corrupt, the guy should not be allowed anywhere near our games
 
hertsblue said:
It was 12 fouls to 2 at one stage which summed up the cheats performance. Also Maguire and Ronaldo should have had yellows in the 1st half, both bottled. Ronaldo at the end should have been a straight red but again he bottled it and gave a yellow, which means it cant be looked at retrospectively i believe.
Yesterday was openly corrupt, the guy should not be allowed anywhere near our games
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Should be nowhere near any games.
 
Oliver.

Consistently hard to see how this a referee is not under biased PIGMOL and others influence when reffing City games.
 
hertsblue said:
It was 12 fouls to 2 at one stage which summed up the cheats performance. Also Maguire and Ronaldo should have had yellows in the 1st half, both bottled. Ronaldo at the end should have been a straight red but again he bottled it and gave a yellow, which means it cant be looked at retrospectively i believe.
Yesterday was openly corrupt, the guy should not be allowed anywhere near our games
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This, just this. Some on here have, over the last couple of seasons, defended him. Bollocks, his performance yesterday was as corrupt as you could get. Kev is very lucky as PR37 looked to hurt him. It wasn't a foul, it was an action calculated to injure. Oliver gave him a yellow so it couldn't be looked at retrospectively as you say, that was as calculated as the assault itself. Also, Oliver blew for the Fernadez foul that was a booking in anybody eyes except his.

Corrupt
 
spiny said:
Oliver.

Consistently hard to see how this a referee is not under biased PIGMOL and others influence when reffing City games.
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When I saw he was the ‘referee’ I turned around and said to my mate that if there was a penalty claim for City today there was no way he would award it..
True to form .. VAR didn’t even look at it which just goes to show how bent it is. United player gets pushed over by a falling leaf out box and it’s a straight red and penalty for them. It needs investigating but will never happen
 
I'd like to know if Stockley Park can here the Sky and BT commentary, because if Nevile or Carragher etal say "the player got a touch" or that's not a pen" etc, the VAR decision seems to follow their view, like yesterday Tyler and Nevile were quick to say Telles got a touch, which granted he did slightly, but he still fouls Jesus on the follow through, which should have been a foul and pen, but straight away VAR gave no pen,
It's like they all want to have their ducks in a line and are singing from the same hymn sheet
 
Popped this in the Rags thread, but thought it deserved a repost to show just how abnormal OliVAR was yesterday.

"Oddly though, by 70 minutes the foul count was 20 tackles with 2 fouls to the Rags, we had 26 tackles and 12 fouls. So 1 in every 10 Rag fouls in the first 70 minutes was a foul, whilst nearly 1 in 2 for us."

Fouls first 70 minutes:

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After 70 minutes, the Rags had 18 tackles and gave away 7 fouls, so up to nearly 1 in 2, whilst we attempted just 2 tackles and no fouls. Utterly bizarre if it was honest...

Fouls (after 70 minutes):

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So we end up with the Rags at 38 tackles with 9 fouls so around 1 in 4. We ended up at 28 tackles and 12 fouls, so just under 1 in 2. So we were still punished twice as often, but up to 70 minutes we were punished 5 times as often. Plus we didn't get the pen and Ronaldo should have been sent off.

If that's not game management, I don't know what is. His stats would have looked completely fucking stupid without that late spurt to correct him. Almost like someone had a word in his ear at exactly 70 minutes and told him he needed to pad his stats.
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
Popped this in the Rags thread, but thought it deserved a repost to show just how abnormal OliVAR was yesterday.

"Oddly though, by 70 minutes the foul count was 20 tackles with 2 fouls to the Rags, we had 26 tackles and 12 fouls. So 1 in every 10 Rag fouls in the first 70 minutes was a foul, whilst nearly 1 in 2 for us."

Fouls first 70 minutes:

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After 70 minutes, the Rags had 18 tackles and gave away 7 fouls, so up to nearly 1 in 2, whilst we attempted just 2 tackles and no fouls. Utterly bizarre if it was honest...

Fouls (after 70 minutes):

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So we end up with the Rags at 38 tackles with 9 fouls so around 1 in 4. We ended up at 28 tackles and 12 fouls, so just under 1 in 2. So we were still punished twice as often, but up to 70 minutes we were punished 5 times as often. Plus we didn't get the pen and Ronaldo should have been sent off.

If that's not game management, I don't know what is. His stats would have looked completely fucking stupid without that late spurt to correct him. Almost like someone had a word in his ear at exactly 70 minutes and told him he needed to pad his stats.
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Maybe he got a text our Cheque had cleared with 20 mins to go.
 
Skip Donoghue said:
I'd like to know if Stockley Park can here the Sky and BT commentary, because if Nevile or Carragher etal say "the player got a touch" or that's not a pen" etc, the VAR decision seems to follow their view, like yesterday Tyler and Nevile were quick to say Telles got a touch, which granted he did slightly, but he still fouls Jesus on the follow through, which should have been a foul and pen, but straight away VAR gave no pen,
It's like they all want to have their ducks in a line and are singing from the same hymn sheet
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Isn’t that why they have a match commander, who could be an analyst, who gauges the audience before making the decision?
 
MillionMilesAway said:
On the Norwich penalty - it's in the laws - the ref was correct. If it's in the area and deemed an attempt at playing the ball, then it's penalty+yellow. Basically the intention it to prevent a fair but slightly mistimed challenge getting both a goal and a sending-off double whammy.

"Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offender is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off."
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Just like Milner was at Klanfield when he brought down Foden.

Oh, hang on.......
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
Popped this in the Rags thread, but thought it deserved a repost to show just how abnormal OliVAR was yesterday.

"Oddly though, by 70 minutes the foul count was 20 tackles with 2 fouls to the Rags, we had 26 tackles and 12 fouls. So 1 in every 10 Rag fouls in the first 70 minutes was a foul, whilst nearly 1 in 2 for us."

Fouls first 70 minutes:

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After 70 minutes, the Rags had 18 tackles and gave away 7 fouls, so up to nearly 1 in 2, whilst we attempted just 2 tackles and no fouls. Utterly bizarre if it was honest...

Fouls (after 70 minutes):

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So we end up with the Rags at 38 tackles with 9 fouls so around 1 in 4. We ended up at 28 tackles and 12 fouls, so just under 1 in 2. So we were still punished twice as often, but up to 70 minutes we were punished 5 times as often. Plus we didn't get the pen and Ronaldo should have been sent off.

If that's not game management, I don't know what is. His stats would have looked completely fucking stupid without that late spurt to correct him. Almost like someone had a word in his ear at exactly 70 minutes and told him he needed to pad his stats.
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Do you collect stats like this for all our games? Be really interesting to see if this really is a trend - I mean I believe it is, but be great to see statistical 'evidence'
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
Popped this in the Rags thread, but thought it deserved a repost to show just how abnormal OliVAR was yesterday.

"Oddly though, by 70 minutes the foul count was 20 tackles with 2 fouls to the Rags, we had 26 tackles and 12 fouls. So 1 in every 10 Rag fouls in the first 70 minutes was a foul, whilst nearly 1 in 2 for us."

Fouls first 70 minutes:

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After 70 minutes, the Rags had 18 tackles and gave away 7 fouls, so up to nearly 1 in 2, whilst we attempted just 2 tackles and no fouls. Utterly bizarre if it was honest...

Fouls (after 70 minutes):

1636318520093.png


So we end up with the Rags at 38 tackles with 9 fouls so around 1 in 4. We ended up at 28 tackles and 12 fouls, so just under 1 in 2. So we were still punished twice as often, but up to 70 minutes we were punished 5 times as often. Plus we didn't get the pen and Ronaldo should have been sent off.

If that's not game management, I don't know what is. His stats would have looked completely fucking stupid without that late spurt to correct him. Almost like someone had a word in his ear at exactly 70 minutes and told him he needed to pad his stats.
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Every fucking game seems to play out like this.

It can't be anything other than bent.
 
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