Ref Watch

The Laporte foul could have been either reckless, or with excessive force. It's a borderline decision that is down to the referee on the day.
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The deep gash on Laporte’s upper thigh suggests endangering the safety of an opponent.
 
Ederson’s foul on Fraser @ Newcastle was a pen IMO. We got away with one there. He won the ball in the Odergaard incident, great if a little risky tackle.
Now that was a divisive decision, right across football, what made it such an anomaly was Joao coming away with the ball before contact was made, but that I don’t think had even come into the referees thinking, he believed Fraser initiated contact & VAR couldn’t intervene. We are that programmed into thinking they are always given against us (which they normally are) every City fan expected one to be given, just because it wasn’t was as much a surprise to me as anything, it became the subjective opinion of the ref (Atkinson?) and likewise the rest of football. What I would say is Ederson was a lot more reckless than Guaita & less in control
 
Id agree with lots of that, would only add it needs to be transparent and fans must hear the reasoning behind decisions. Also have suspicions Sky/BT get looped into conversations, everyone should be aware not just ref/var/tv. Works almost seamlessly in Rugby/Cricket. Trust football to (deliberately) cock it up
Agreed, Sky get looped in at the same time to service the armchair fan, which is normally announced before the referee indicates the decision on the pitch, you normally hear an ohhhh from Neville first which gives it away. A good start would be to hear any VAR decisions transmitted, if those at Stockley park don’t like the sound of their own voice then get a new job or do it in a robotic alternative commentary kind of way. This would allow all involved a few seasons getting used to the idea (like var) before implementing a full roll out of 100% match transparency
 
Apparently there was no contact on Laporte... In that case he must be into self harm
I know there was I've seen Laporte's twitter picture however, little/no contact is bollocks anyway, we've seen to name but 2 (SWP at Stoke, Petrov at home to someone) get reds for the sort of contact a 6 month old wouldn't feel.

Narrative is changed to suit by the authorities (can't distinguish these days between match commander, pigmol, VAR, sky in all it's various parts, media etc).

I've not seen the raggy goal but KDB was a pen, not seen the 'offside' dips one but the pen was a disgrace.

This is what we're up against, authorities use terms like...I've seen those given, not enough contact to suit what they want & don't even get me started on the amount of time VAR takes looking for things on certain calls but mananges to clear some up in seconds.

Fucking stinks.
 
I’m just surprised Dermot didn’t say that Laporte dived.
I’ve been saying for years that there isn’t one decent ref in this league.
 

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