Ref Watch

[simmo]

The man in the middle needs to be aided by his assistants. Far too often they don’t act on what they see, either through speed of the game or judgement.

Not sure that having an assistant either side is sufficient to keep up with play and do the role in the modern game.

 

[Vic]

I read an interesting interview with Michael Oliver once where he said it’s important to realise that different teams need refereeing differently when it came to applying advantage. He used Stoke as an example and said he knew they would virtually always prefer a free kick. Because of that he would very rarely apply advantage after a foul on a Stoke player, when he would have done in an identical situation with other teams. Good understanding of the game and refereeing.

It also explains why our "fouls against" always looks low.

 

[Stephen230]

That explains why he likes to block out passing link ups when reffing us.

I’ve read previously on here people suggesting referees deliberately position themselves to block off passes. I assumed it was either post match frustration or a joke.

You don’t honestly believe that do you?

 

[Paladin]

For those advocating we look to Europe to find some proper refs who know how to control a game.

Sendings off so far this season:

That's all well and good, but how many passes are made per game?

 

[BringBackSwales]

That's all well and good, but how many passes are made per game?

Yep and how many touches does the top striker have?

 

[BringBackSwales]

I read an interesting interview with Michael Oliver once where he said it’s important to realise that different teams need refereeing differently when it came to applying advantage. He used Stoke as an example and said he knew they would virtually always prefer a free kick. Because of that he would very rarely apply advantage after a foul on a Stoke player, when he would have done in an identical situation with other teams. Good understanding of the game and refereeing.

So refs treating different teams differently is ok? That explains a lot

 

[blueinsa]

I read an interesting interview with Michael Oliver once where he said it’s important to realise that different teams need refereeing differently when it came to applying advantage. He used Stoke as an example and said he knew they would virtually always prefer a free kick. Because of that he would very rarely apply advantage after a foul on a Stoke player, when he would have done in an identical situation with other teams. Good understanding of the game and refereeing.

Bit like saying they knew Utd always preferred being awarded a penalty so they gave them.

It’s utterly fucking ridiculous for a ref to come out with shit like that. Even more so to agree with it!

 

[Vic]

Bit like saying they knew Utd always preferred being awarded a penalty so they gave them.

It’s utterly fucking ridiculous for a ref to come out with shit like that. Even more so to agree with it!

It's not. If a player knows they've been fouled, and want the free kick, they just stop so the ref gives it. City would generally rather just keep the game going rather than let the opposition get organised for a set piece. There ought to be an "advantage of the month" award for refs where they've let a foul go and signalled advantage and a goal has resulted. (Just don't celebrate: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2000/feb/12/newsstory.sport3 )

Playing advantage in the penalty area is a separate and rarer issue.

 

[Stephen230]

Bit like saying they knew Utd always preferred being awarded a penalty so they gave them.

It’s utterly fucking ridiculous for a ref to come out with shit like that. Even more so to agree with it!

No, it’s absolutely nothing like saying that. The laws of the game are at pains to reiterate that “advantage” should be exactly that. The side that has been wronged ( had a player fouled ) should always be the only consideration of the referee. If the referee thinks they would be advantaged by playing on, that’s what he should do. Likewise if he thinks they’d prefer the game to be stopped and take the free kick they are entitled to.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

For those advocating we look to Europe to find some proper refs who know how to control a game.

Sendings off so far this season:

Isn’t that disproportional?