Ref Watch

For what it's worth I think there really is a top official in Taylor but it is really difficult to erase that Chelsea match from my head. One of the most corrupt performances I've ever witnessed.
Or the derby loss when he failed to give a pen after Ashley Young(?) lay on the ground and stuck his hand out to stop a cross. And another stonedead penalty non-call late in the game.

Wasnt he also the ref who sent off Delph for against Wigan in the cup after first pulling out a yellow card?
 
For what it's worth I think there really is a top official in Taylor but it is really difficult to erase that Chelsea match from my head. One of the most corrupt performances I've ever witnessed.
And it seems he's chucked in his season ticket at Altrincham for an away ticket at Molineux. I thought I spotted him in the Pitcam video and Inside City today confirms it. Check the video on 8:17. Titty Taylor is a blue, is a blue, is a blue, Titty Taylor is a blue, all the way from Alty!
 
Or the derby loss when he failed to give a pen after Ashley Young(?) lay on the ground and stuck his hand out to stop a cross. And another stonedead penalty non-call late in the game.

Wasnt he also the ref who sent off Delph for against Wigan in the cup after first pulling out a yellow card?
The trouble with Taylor is you don't know what you'll get. Sometimes he does a really good job, yet others he is awful. Good refs usually have a decent game and rarely a bad one. Unfortunately we haven't seen refs like that in this country for a long long time.
 
Bit like saying they knew Utd always preferred being awarded a penalty so they gave them.

It’s utterly fucking ridiculous for a ref to come out with shit like that. Even more so to agree with it!
Not really. Similar fouls against different teams will cause different reactions from players, and different responses from referees. Stoke, United, Liverpool players will often hit the ground after a foul, leaving the referee with no real option but to award a free kick. Other players (Foden as an example) will try to stay on their feet and continue the attacking move, and it is correct to have the advantage applied.
 
Not really. Similar fouls against different teams will cause different reactions from players, and different responses from referees. Stoke, United, Liverpool players will often hit the ground after a foul, leaving the referee with no real option but to award a free kick. Other players (Foden as an example) will try to stay on their feet and continue the attacking move, and it is correct to have the advantage applied.
I'm trying to unpick your second sentence. The behaviour of the player is a separate issue but I get your point. The rules need to be applied correctly and in a consistent manner. This clearly doesn't happen enough though.
 
I read an interesting interview with Michael Oliver once where he said it’s important to realise that different teams need refereeing differently when it came to applying advantage. He used Stoke as an example and said he knew they would virtually always prefer a free kick. Because of that he would very rarely apply advantage after a foul on a Stoke player, when he would have done in an identical situation with other teams. Good understanding of the game and refereeing.
That's really interesting - and is probably just a common sense application of advantage. Just because the fouled team retain possession doesn't mean a freekick isn't the better option.

Whenever anyone mentions tactical fouling, I suggest they watch clips of City breakaway goals - it's rare you'll see one where at least one player isn't fouled at some point, but refs fortunately play advantage as City usually have multiple players breaking forward.

Compare that to a team where the attackers are isolated from a low block defence - taking one player out with a foul cuts down their chances of a successful attack by a much greater margin.
 
No, it’s absolutely nothing like saying that. The laws of the game are at pains to reiterate that “advantage” should be exactly that. The side that has been wronged ( had a player fouled ) should always be the only consideration of the referee. If the referee thinks they would be advantaged by playing on, that’s what he should do. Likewise if he thinks they’d prefer the game to be stopped and take the free kick they are entitled to.
Also referees need to take into consideration the atmosphere of the games they are officiating.
 
The trouble with Taylor is you don't know what you'll get. Sometimes he does a really good job, yet others he is awful. Good refs usually have a decent game and rarely a bad one. Unfortunately we haven't seen refs like that in this country for a long long time.
Very much my thoughts. I thought as soon as I saw him chalked in for the Hyenas game I thought Oh, Kinell, and then he turns up the most innocuous performance I think I've seen from him.
 
Very much my thoughts. I thought as soon as I saw him chalked in for the Hyenas game I thought Oh, Kinell, and then he turns up the most innocuous performance I think I've seen from him.
We need to judge referees on their current performances, not games they officiated many years ago. For me, Oliver and Taylor are both very good referees. Not perfect, but there are very few of the calibre of Collina.
 

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