Ref Watch

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

the freeze frame that was showed on the first replay for forests goal was different for the freeze frame that was used for vars interpretation at least two frames back the ball had not left the forests players foot on the first replay wood looked just offside on the var interpretation he was well onside

What???

VAR are MANIPULATING the footage by carefully selecting which images to display???

I'm SHOCKED!!!

 

[Hayley Croppers chopper]

We can’t blame this ref for wasting all the chances and opportunities we created and didn’t finish.

The ref was poor. So was Forest. So was our finishing.

As for Haaland, I hope Pep tells him to stay on his feet when he can instead of falling over what was a very soft hand on his shoulder.

Why was that not a pen whilst Haaland conceded a free kick in our 18 yard box for putting his hand on the players shoulder?

 

[Stephen230]

Why was that not a pen whilst Haaland conceded a free kick in our 18 yard box for putting his hand on the players shoulder?

I don’t think it was in the area. Although he would have been off if it was given as a foul, so still a pretty big call.

 

[eversince 76]

Why was that not a pen whilst Haaland conceded a free kick in our 18 yard box for putting his hand on the players shoulder?

Didn’t say it wasn’t a penalty.
Albeit a very soft one, there was a hand of his shoulder. But not like it unbalanced him. Also -and that being my main point- if Haaland decided to stay on his feet he would probably had scored.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Didn’t say it wasn’t a penalty.
Albeit a very soft one, there was a hand of his shoulder. But not like it unbalanced him. Also -and that being my main point- if Haaland decided to stay on his feet he would probably had scored.

After seeing a replay on MotD, it was more then a pull than when Diaz touched a player and gave one away.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Haaland wasn’t dragged back it was embarrassing when a shot on goal was on

He wasn't dragged back,and he should have stayed on his feet,but if that situation involves Fernandes,Rashford,Salah or Saka etc. we all know the decision would have been different.

The ref cant be blamed for us dropping 2 points but his performance was not good,not by a long way.

 

[halfcenturyup]

That's what I thought was strange, that I remember it being reported that the camera operator zoomed in too quickly and the television company accepted responsibility? I am just going by what I read someplace. It still seems strange though that there are certain blindspots. It seems quite common though depending on the ground or the colour of the shirt that certain things are " missed ".

This whole thing is strange. PGMOL is telling us that they use dynamic cameras for VAR that the broadcasters use to give the best view as they follow the action? You can hardly blame the camera operator for that. They must surely have dedicated cameras that don't need an operator. If they don't, just bin the damn thing until they do. Fuck me, these clubs make half a billion a year, surely they can make 12 dedicated cameras available at pre-determined points? It's past the stage where I can't believe anything these people say any more, let alone trust their judgements.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Just seen highlights. Pen on Laporte, should have been red for assault on Jack, pull back on Haaland should have been free kick and yellow.

 

[laplandblue]

This whole thing is strange. PGMOL is telling us that they use dynamic cameras for VAR that the broadcasters use to give the best view as they follow the action? You can hardly blame the camera operator for that. They must surely have dedicated cameras that don't need an operator. If they don't, just bin the damn thing until they do. Fuck me, these clubs make half a billion a year, surely they can make 12 dedicated cameras available at pre-determined points? It's past the stage where I can't believe anything these people say any more, let alone trust their judgements.

Exactly. I wonder how long it will be before another blindspot is discovered and will it again be to their benefit?

 

[bluealf]

the freeze frame that was showed on the first replay for forests goal was different for the freeze frame that was used for vars interpretation at least two frames back the ball had not left the forests players foot on the first replay wood looked just offside on the var interpretation he was well onside

Yup, first shot of the incident he was a full boot beyond the defender, commentary said bitnhard too tell off that image it is being checked next photo popped up totally different and goal given, 30 seconds later.

Bent as fuck

 

[bluealf]

Why was that not a pen whilst Haaland conceded a free kick in our 18 yard box for putting his hand on the players shoulder?

It wasn't a penalty because it wasn't in the box but it was a freekick and a red card though it would have been soft, he did reach out and pull the shoulder, not sure how anybody looking at it can not have come to that conclusion... Oh wait.

 

[Saddleworth2]

After seeing a replay on MotD, it was more then a pull than when Diaz touched a player and gave one away.

it still wouldn't have been a penalty. The pull happened outside the box.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

it still wouldn't have been a penalty. The pull happened outside the box.

Fair comment but, if I’m not mistaken, wasn’t he the last man.

Either way, we just don’t get them calls compared to certain other teams.

 

[simon23]

Ok. Decisions, all processed extremely quickly, some pay off, some don’t. Perhaps he thought he had a better chance of success by going down, perhaps he thought I’m being impeded, that impediment will reduce the probability of scoring. I recall Foden staying on his feet a lot in past matches, when the consensus was that he should’ve gone down and ‘won’ the penalty. I remember the reaction was that he’ll learn.

But ultimately I can see we have wildly different interpretations of what a foul is, so best to leave it there.

Everyone's interpretation of what a foul is is different and that's the point. Winners take control and take the possibility of arbitrary decisions which are completely subjective out of the equation altogether.

If Haaland is through 1vs 1 with the keeper do you back him to score.....I know I do so you would think he should!

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

it still wouldn't have been a penalty. The pull happened outside the box.

And that is one of the differences in the variable thresholds for awarding frees - we have to be five yards inside the box for the ref to ill-consider it, and then turn it down! And any foul around the edge of the box, where Kev or Riyad can whip the kick into the top corner, is summarily dismissed.

The thing about Haaland is that his strength, in most cases, where attacker and defender are bearing down on goal, draws a foul from the defender by boring into him, pushing and shoving. Question: When is a push not a push? Ans: When the outcome would be a City free kick on the edge of the area.

I've long since been pissed off with the way we are denied what the likes of the Dippers 'n Rags had delivered on a plate, but now the outcome of this season is being manipulated by constantly waiving away one foul after another.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

There’s no fucking way that was a foul by the Forest defender. Haaland did exactly the same thing to get in front of him in the first place and it wasn’t a foul to Forest (their player resisted cheating at that moment, unlike Haaland).

It was a shamefully pathetic dive and I hope I never see anything like that again from him.

I only disagreed with three things the ref did yesterday, one where Grealish was aimlessly running horizontally across the pitch and he was tripped and the ref waved play-on. I thought the lad standing on Foden’s foot should have been booked but wasn’t. And I thought Rodri got away with a booking n’all.

 

[PistonBlue]

There’s no fucking way that was a foul by the Forest defender. Haaland did exactly the same thing to get in front of him in the first place and it wasn’t a foul to Forest (their player resisted cheating at that moment, unlike Haaland).

It was a shamefully pathetic dive and I hope I never see anything like that again from him.

I only disagreed with three things the ref did yesterday, one where Grealish was aimlessly running horizontally across the pitch and he was tripped and the ref waved play-on. I thought the lad standing on Foden’s foot should have been booked but wasn’t. And I thought Rodri got away with a booking n’all.

Spot on re Haaland. The size of the lad and he’s goes down like that trying to win the penalty. Thought his attitude was poor yesterday to be honest. He should just play his game, he’s bigger, stronger and quicker that most defenders, no need for this shite.

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

There’s no fucking way that was a foul by the Forest defender. Haaland did exactly the same thing to get in front of him in the first place and it wasn’t a foul to Forest (their player resisted cheating at that moment, unlike Haaland).

It was a shamefully pathetic dive and I hope I never see anything like that again from him.

I only disagreed with three things the ref did yesterday, one where Grealish was aimlessly running horizontally across the pitch and he was tripped and the ref waved play-on. I thought the lad standing on Foden’s foot should have been booked but wasn’t. And I thought Rodri got away with a booking n’all.

He’s lucky the ref didn’t give a pen (in a way) as his game in & around the box is brute force & physicality, countless times in a game where he is giving as good as he gets, he pushes, pulls and hands people off like a rugby player, that pen gets given & every contest he makes in future is a free kick to the opposition, I can’t condemn him for trying like, in the past (looking at you Vardy) that’s enough for a red, “there’s contact, it’s soft but the ref had no choice” would’ve been the cry, Kyle’s been called an idiot in the media for less

 

[richardtheref]

Why was that not a pen whilst Haaland conceded a free kick in our 18 yard box for putting his hand on the players shoulder?

I remember a few years back Laporte did the same to Salah. Penalty immediatly

 

[the-ecstacy-of-eight]

For me, refereeing bias isn't about us not getting the BIG decisions (BUT the pull on Laporte from a corner in the first half WAS a pen IMO), it's about the constant giving of free-kicks to the opposition when they fall to the floor after minimal contact, whilst simultaneously either waving away blatant trips and fouls on us, or continually playing non-existent advantage because we've "still got the ball".

It

happens

EVERY

game

we

play

:(

We are 100% refereed under a different set of thresholds to every other "big" team.

Fucking booked for time wasting after 36 minutes? Do me a favour!