Referees’ Performances | 2024/2025

lasereyes said:
Pawson wasnt bent. Brookes was the corrupt one. Once Pawson was summoned to the screen, there was only going to be one outcome.
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Unless anyone else can correct me I didn’t see the Villa players go hounding the ref or chasing Pawson down that it was a certain penalty when he’d said no penalty.
Always a tell tale sign that he got the on field decision right
 
mancboy said:
As ive just put there, its the consistency or lack thereof that i take issue with, if gashfords is a penalty then marmoushs against palace has to be a penalty.
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Funny foreigner should stay on his feet, etc etc after they have spent years fawning over Salah’s ridiculous tumbling double pike with twist high dive antics
 
Eds said:
This is what we were told at the beginning of the season:

There will be a particular focus this season on what the Premier League have branded the ‘Referees Call’, which will see an emphasis on trusting on-field decisions unless evidence is ‘readily available’ that a call constitutes a clear and obvious error.

Pawson last night had a clear view of the incident, IMO opinion Dias planted his leg and Ramsey initiated contact. Even if you don't agree with that the contact was minimal and wasn't a 'clear and obvious error'. Effectively the game was re-reffed by the VAR and Pawson didn't have the balls to say he was sticking with his original decision. I hope the audio is made public as I hope Pawson would have said minimal contact not enough for a penalty, Dias hasn't put his leg out to play the player. What I reckon was said was there isn't any contact at which VAR then said you need to have a look at this. Even so the original decision should have stood.

Pawson like so many other refs also needs to have the balls to say to the keeper in the fist few minutes that taking 25 seconds from when he has the ball in his hands to taking a goal kick is too long and you will be booked the very next time it happens and the same for holding on to the ball longer than six seconds. Why the PL think by changing it to 8 seconds next year is going to be better for the game is beyond me. The law is quite clear but just isn't enforced. I half expected Stefan to be booked at the very end when he walked across to take the free kick.
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IFAB have changed the time to eight seconds.Apparently in about 2000 games where it was trialed only eight corners were awarded.
Powers that be think this means the sanction is effective,seems to me referees can't or won't impose the sanction.
We'll see next season but I won't hold my breath.
Dermott Gallagher argued on Ref Watch that it's hard to decide when the keeper has control of the ball,so when does the right seconds start ?
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
It doesn't matter if you thought it was a penalty in real time. Pawson didn't, and VAR interfered when it shouldn't have.
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VAR recording “It’s not a pen but it’s close enough for us to make it one and 90% of the football world will smile”
 
Gordyola said:
But he did on all the replays I’ve seen and when I saw it live also If the onfield ref had given in fair wouldn’t have ageeed but it was no where near the criteria for VAR to become involved
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I’ve not seen a replay that showed him playing the ball away from the player at all, I’ve seen him make slight contact with it which didn’t really alter the trajectory. Had he played the ball more then I’d agree.
 
meltonblue said:
I’ve not seen a replay that showed him playing the ball away from the player at all, I’ve seen him make slight contact with it which didn’t really alter the trajectory. Had he played the ball more then I’d agree.
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Fair enough Do you agree it wasnt enough using the VAR criteria for them to intervene and he had a clear view of it and waved it away
 
Gordyola said:
Fair enough Do you agree it wasnt enough using the VAR criteria for them to intervene and he had a clear view of it and waved it away
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On your first point, if it was consistently applied I don’t mind VAR being used for it. Currently though, probably not. On you second point, I don’t think Pawson does have a clear view on it as he’s pretty much straight down from Ramsey so Dias running across, he’s not going to see if there’s contact or not. Looking at the replay again, there’s also another Villa player that is blocking him from having a direct view.
 
eyalluvitt said:
VAR recording “It’s not a pen but it’s close enough for us to make it one and 90% of the football world will smile”
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With that attitude, it’s odd that it’s taken them until late April to find a single opportunity to instigate a VAR overturn against us.
 
Pawson what a ****.
So he was what 5 to 10 yards away. Clear view and decided not a penalty. He made his mind up. Apparently the bar is higher now for penalties unless your name is Manchester City??
Why did VAR get involved? It.wasn't clear and obvious so WHY the fuck are they re refereeing the game. As.soon as he went over to the screen it was always going to be given. Ask yourself 1 question. If this is at Anfield, the swamp etc I think the decision is totally different.
 
This is the response of one of the contributors to the rate the ref site (a majority of whom agree with the penalty decision).. He is a bit like Stephen 230, giving insights into the Laws of the Game and how they are applied.

“I think it will depend what Pawson said to Brooks. If he said that there was no contact then that would be very obviously wrong and has to be a VAR intervention. Whereas if he said he saw the contact and didn't think it was enough to take him down then that is probably in the referee's call category.”

My reply was to say I would be amazed if Pawson couldn’t see the contact between Ramsey and Dias.
 
Cassandra said:
This is the response of one of the contributors to the rate the ref site (a majority of whom agree with the penalty decision).. He is a bit like Stephen 230, giving insights into the Laws of the Game and how they are applied.

“I think it will depend what Pawson said to Brooks. If he said that there was no contact then that would be very obviously wrong and has to be a VAR intervention. Whereas if he said he saw the contact and didn't think it was enough to take him down then that is probably in the referee's call category.”

My reply was to say I would be amazed if Pawson couldn’t see the contact between Ramsey and Dias.
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Reminds me of the incident with Mark Halsey who was told to alter his match report to say he hadn't seen something so that the officials could take retrospectively action against a player.
 
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