Referees' Performances | 2025/26

Alan Harper's Tash said:
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Match Officials Mic'd Up: The fascinating debate VAR had for West Ham's disallowed goal against Arsenal

Listen in on the audio from VAR during the huge moment between West Ham and Arsenal on Sunday in the Premier League.
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Seems the VAR basically left it for Kavanagh to decide and he didn’t think there was enough in the Trossard hold for it to be a free kick and deemed the foul on Raya happens before the Rice hold.
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He did. I thought the flaw was that there was no focus on what happened with Trossard/Pablo before the ball was headed - the screen review only showed Trossard standing still, not the earlier pushing which would have had an effect on Pablo.

From what Kavanagh was shown, he was right that there was nothing in it.

I think Rice/Mavrapanos is likely to be irrelevant to the decision as it didn't make a difference to what happened.
 
Where was the Keane challenge on Doku,where was the Gabriel head butt on Haaland ?
Hair pull on Semenyo v Fulham not featured in the relevant episode of Match Officials mic'd up.
Clear and obvious .
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
The yellow card issue is another minefield. Take our last game. 8 fouls, 4 yellow cards. Corrupt right?

Then when it’s broken down;

Bernardo gets booked for “punching” an opponent. (Not a foul)
Nunes gets booked for pushing Henderson. (Not a foul)
Marmoush stops a quick corner being taken. (Not a foul)
O’Reilly gets booked for blatantly dragging back their player to kill a promising attack. A nailed on booking.

So 8 fouls, 1 booking.
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I understand that but what I used fouls versus fouls booking so the last game was an anomaly. My mates a Chelsea fan & he was laughing how they’ve been getting players sent off & constantly booked, they couldn’t buy a booking versus us.

Then there’s time wasting for keepers throwings, if you’ve got a long throw you’ve got as long as you want if you haven’t you’ve got seconds. Both occasions you’re trying to get it to your own players. Time wasting only punishable when leading not for the first 60 minutes at the Etihad.

My point is they aren’t refereeing according to the LOTG but to their feelings.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
www.skysports.com

Match Officials Mic'd Up: The fascinating debate VAR had for West Ham's disallowed goal against Arsenal

Listen in on the audio from VAR during the huge moment between West Ham and Arsenal on Sunday in the Premier League.
www.skysports.com www.skysports.com

Seems the VAR basically left it for Kavanagh to decide and he didn’t think there was enough in the Trossard hold for it to be a free kick and deemed the foul on Raya happens before the Rice hold.
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And that's precisely the problem.

It shouldn't have been left to Kavanagh to decide because his initial decision wasn't clearly and obviously wrong. There was so much going on in the area with that corner that it would have been difficult to say any of the possible decisions he could have made were clearly and obviously wrong.

Howard Webb, however, has by himself changed the goalposts by reducing massively the threshold at which a decision can be said to be a "clear and obvious" error. To give two examples, last Monday Everton scored at a corner at which an Everton player jumped directly into Donnaruma as the corner was in flight. That should have been a free kick, wasn't given, the review of the goal by VAR took about 5 seconds and nothing more was said about it. Then we have the Bournemouth goal, where a Bournemouth player grabbed hold of Donnarumma's arm and held on to him while the corner came in. Again there was a goal, again there was a review that lasted about 5 seconds, again nothing was said. Yet that was a much clearer, and much more obvious foul than the one on Saturday.

If a foul on the goalkeeper that was missed by the referee was a "clear and obvious" error on Saturday, it has been all season. But just find me one other example of a VAR reversal of the on-field decision that a goal should be given for a foul on a keeper at a corner. We all know they have been going on all season.

It was only on Saturday with the title on the line that the bar was suddenly lowered.
 
There's no place for the PGMOL officials to hide their roles in game management, as has been witnessed for so long now.

The cat is clearly out of the bag and Webb will be struggling to come up with any plausible explanations for the unholy mess that they have allowed the game to descend to.

Video evidence of the latest fuck up/manipulation clearly shows that their contrived decision to disallow the West Ham goal was clearly wrong.

All officials working under the control of Webb and PGMOL have clear question marks against their honesty and integrity, and the football public clearly know it now.

It has been a long time coming to this point with many transgressions and clear errors along the way, but the arrogance of knowing that they are not answerable for whatever they do must no longer be allowed to exist.

Pressure needs to be brought for reform / change or removal of those whose actions are the most questionable or clearly biased. Unacceptable "explanations" from Webb must not be allowed to hold sway.

Many of these decisions, because of the impact upon the financial aspects are bordering or actually criminal offences.

Take away the joint enterprise of the PL / FA and PGMOL for a start, a clear and obvious potential for conflict of interest.

Remove the likes of Webb who have overseen the chaotic operation of the referee/VAR system, with a proven record of failure and mistrust.

Too long but not too late, things could be changed and improved so long as those guilty for the mess are held to account,
 
MillionMilesAway said:
He did. I thought the flaw was that there was no focus on what happened with Trossard/Pablo before the ball was headed - the screen review only showed Trossard standing still, not the earlier pushing which would have had an effect on Pablo.

From what Kavanagh was shown, he was right that there was nothing in it.

I think Rice/Mavrapanos is likely to be irrelevant to the decision as it didn't make a difference to what happened.
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It appeared to me, from one of the angled replays, that Pablo was pushed into the GK and was using his arm and raised his arm, primarily, to steady himself and grabbed. No push, no collison with the GK.
 
Fiftyyearsandcounting said:
It appeared to me, from one of the angled replays, that Pablo was pushed into the GK and was using his arm and raised his arm, primarily, to steady himself and grabbed. No push, no collison with the GK.
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It certainly looked as though Trossard's involvement had a material effect on where Pablo was, I think that's clear.

The audio suggests that there was no consideration of that.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
It certainly looked as though Trossard's involvement had a material effect on where Pablo was, I think that's clear.

The audio suggests that there was no consideration of that.
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The sole aim of the review was to check and prove a foul on the keeper. They really weren't interested in anything else, you can tell that from the general sentiment of their conversation.

At worst it's corruption, at best it highlights the complete lack of rigour in place around using VAR technology. It wasn't a clear and obvious error by the referee, but once it was decided VAR was needed, then EVERYTHING impacting the goal/no goal should be reviewed.
 
TonyColemansbagofapples said:
But who can bring this pressure? The media controls the narrative.
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I accept that totally.

PGMOL have completely destroyed any confidence or misconceptions regarding their competence, integrity or honesty, and the likes of Webb will lie through his teeth at every given opportunity.

The feelings amongst City supporters is not confined to just us, as other clubs are being cheated by the officials.

A ground swell of discontent with the PL and PGMOL must surely happen rather than mere wringing of hands and accepting that the process is corrupt.

I don't have the answer you are looking for, but I cant accept that football supporters can ignore what is now
" out in the open ". The cunts have been cheating us all for far too long,
 
Tony Kay, Peter Swan and David Layne were banned for life in the 60s for match fixing. With VAR we are now seeing match results fixed without impunity. In fact we have people who hold high profile positions and club bias openly gaslighting paying customers and interpreting the laws of the game to suit their agenda. British fair play and justice is in the gutter.
 
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