I believe things won't change until these stupid charges are finally put to bed
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Referees' Performances | 2025/26
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Gordyola
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Cheers DermontCrikey. Do Folk really see the Doku tackle as a red? Every team gets bad decisions, fact of life for every winner, there is a loser. There is no secret cult of referees out to get us, or anybody else. Lets park that theory next to a flat earth and jesus being an alien. Last night was a result of a season long theme where we lack urgency and dont kill teams off. It is not that we cant play that way, we can and do it very well, its just the players are so tactically obedient that it counts against us occasionally.
Sorry as in, another challenge that deserved a red not given as a red.Missed ?
Gordyola
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Gordyola
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Pep told Graham Scott, one of the worse refs Ive ever seen, when he was the 4th official v Brighton when we tied up the PL that we are champions now and there is nothing you can do about it
Gordyola
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Even our vents are getting the treatment Best wishes to Steven Ireland for a full recovery
smevchenko
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Bernardo should have had a penalty given against him for wrestling Rohl to the ground at 3-2, so Everton can have some complaints as well
Gordyola
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If that is a pen then this season Erling would have broken the penalty record about 6 times just for fouls on him Everton should have no complaints as the game was officiated to totally suit themBernardo should have had a penalty given against him for wrestling Rohl to the ground at 3-2, so Everton can have some complaints as well
Gordyola
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Micah Richards' not acting the clown for once so fair play to him
“I’m trying to stay calm here but I genuinely can’t understand how Manchester City have come out of this game empty-handed, because for me, this is two massive decisions, both wrong, and both going the same way.Let’s start with the goal. People keep saying it’s ‘tight’ or ‘subjective’ no, it’s not. Under the IFAB Law 11, if you’re in an offside position and you’re interfering with an opponent, that includes impacting a defender’s ability to play the ball or gaining an advantage from a deflection or phase of play. That’s in black and white.Barry is in that position, the defenders are reacting to him, there’s hesitation, there’s chaos and he benefits from it. That’s interfering. I don’t care if he doesn’t touch it first, he’s influencing the situation. That goal should not stand for Everton. Simple as that.Now the second one… this is the one that really gets me.Michael Keane on Jérémy Doku, how on earth is that not a red card? Honestly, explain it to me. Because when I look at it, I see a player going in late, with force, and he’s not in control. That’s serious foul play all day.The law says if you endanger the safety of an opponent with excessive force, it’s a sending-off. There’s no grey area there. Doku’s planted, Keane comes through him, that’s dangerous. We’ve seen those given all season.And this is where the frustration comes in, VAR is there to correct ‘clear and obvious’ errors. So if they’re not intervening for that, then what’s the point? What are we actually doing?Because now you’ve got a situation where:a goal that, by the law, should be ruled out… standsa red card offence… gets waved awayAnd people will say ‘it evens out over the season’, no it doesn’t! Not at this level, not in a title race.You’ve got Michael Oliver on the pitch, VAR in his ear, and between them they’ve still got both calls wrong. That’s not pressure, that’s poor officiating.I’m telling you now, if that’s the standard, then we’re going to be having this same conversation every single week. And Professional Game Match Officials Limited have got to answer it, because right now, it just looks like inconsistency at the highest level.”
“I’m trying to stay calm here but I genuinely can’t understand how Manchester City have come out of this game empty-handed, because for me, this is two massive decisions, both wrong, and both going the same way.Let’s start with the goal. People keep saying it’s ‘tight’ or ‘subjective’ no, it’s not. Under the IFAB Law 11, if you’re in an offside position and you’re interfering with an opponent, that includes impacting a defender’s ability to play the ball or gaining an advantage from a deflection or phase of play. That’s in black and white.Barry is in that position, the defenders are reacting to him, there’s hesitation, there’s chaos and he benefits from it. That’s interfering. I don’t care if he doesn’t touch it first, he’s influencing the situation. That goal should not stand for Everton. Simple as that.Now the second one… this is the one that really gets me.Michael Keane on Jérémy Doku, how on earth is that not a red card? Honestly, explain it to me. Because when I look at it, I see a player going in late, with force, and he’s not in control. That’s serious foul play all day.The law says if you endanger the safety of an opponent with excessive force, it’s a sending-off. There’s no grey area there. Doku’s planted, Keane comes through him, that’s dangerous. We’ve seen those given all season.And this is where the frustration comes in, VAR is there to correct ‘clear and obvious’ errors. So if they’re not intervening for that, then what’s the point? What are we actually doing?Because now you’ve got a situation where:a goal that, by the law, should be ruled out… standsa red card offence… gets waved awayAnd people will say ‘it evens out over the season’, no it doesn’t! Not at this level, not in a title race.You’ve got Michael Oliver on the pitch, VAR in his ear, and between them they’ve still got both calls wrong. That’s not pressure, that’s poor officiating.I’m telling you now, if that’s the standard, then we’re going to be having this same conversation every single week. And Professional Game Match Officials Limited have got to answer it, because right now, it just looks like inconsistency at the highest level.”
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bluetonium
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The ball wasn't in play so it's allowed.Bernardo should have had a penalty given against him for wrestling Rohl to the ground at 3-2, so Everton can have some complaints as well
It's a horrible rule, and I'd love to see a firm clampdown on any holding and shirt pulling at all from set pieces, but that is the rule this season so you can do whatever you like when the ball is wnor in play and it won't be pulled up.
It certainly does impact that game as in theory you can down the opposition player prior to the corner being taken then nod it in or out whilst he's on the ground, and it's all fair game. But if they start giving them now with a few games to go then what about the hundreds they've let go since August?
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More evidence of Oliver’s lack of backbone. As if more was needed.
He's right though. I wish he would fuck off.
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Try to make it 45 posts in 50 years so we don't have to read fucking shite like you posted.And?
TonyColemansbagofapples
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You mean 6'4'',14st Bernardo wrestling someone to the floor? Do you realise what a stupid statement that sounds?Bernardo should have had a penalty given against him for wrestling Rohl to the ground at 3-2, so Everton can have some complaints as well
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Sorry as in, another challenge that deserved a red not given as a red.
Im meaning not missed, following orders
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Bernardo should have had a penalty given against him for wrestling Rohl to the ground at 3-2, so Everton can have some complaints as well
Who on earth could they have given that when they ignore Haaland being held at every corner, or arsenal holding at every corner.
That would 100% show we are refd differently
Conformational Bias imho. The Evertonians thought he was naff as well. Cant be trying to shaft us both can he? Can be useless without being a cheat.46 posts in 16 years?? We are reffed differently, go to the ref thread, loads of evidence there.
Conformational Bias imho. The Evertonians thought he was naff as well. Cant be trying to shaft us both can he? Can be useless without being a cheat.
Scousers think they're being shafted about everything do their opinion doesn't count.
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Just fuck off will you.Conformational Bias imho. The Evertonians thought he was naff as well. Cant be trying to shaft us both can he? Can be useless without being a cheat.
"Do Folk really see the Doku tackle as a red?" So you don't think it was a red card offence?Crikey. Do Folk really see the Doku tackle as a red? Every team gets bad decisions, fact of life for every winner, there is a loser. There is no secret cult of referees out to get us, or anybody else. Lets park that theory next to a flat earth and jesus being an alien. Last night was a result of a season long theme where we lack urgency and dont kill teams off. It is not that we cant play that way, we can and do it very well, its just the players are so tactically obedient that it counts against us occasionally.
"Every team gets bad decisions". Yet you think it was a bad decision?
I'm confused.
I said a couple of seasons ago that VAR officials were scared when Oliver was the ref. Ooh we daren't overturn a decision by Michael, he's a World Cup referee, and my opinion was he instructed them pre game not to send him to the monitor, it would be his decision and his only.