Referees' Performances | 2025/26

We have a PL with two clubs whose owners made their fortunes from gambling. They have also have massive shareholder loans which, until City took the PL to court for the related parties issue, were allowed to not charge any interest. Money clearly disguised as owner investment to avoid FFP/ PSR it’s definite that Brighton and Brentford wouldn’t be established in the PL without their owners yet That’s re allowed to continue with their gambling activities yet players have received bans Makes you wonder
 
ninjamonkey said:
What exactly are they manipulating and for what purpose in a game that had literally nothing on the line and resembled a testimonial?
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I suspect they make a decision and then make sure the video backs up their decision.

Then they can talk about how accurate they are.

We've seen twice now the video being clearly altered to support an inccorect decision.
 
SAOT suggests the kick point generated from ~25 cameras this is examined by VAR to ensure accuracy Once the KP is set the s/w creates the 3D image which becomes the official decision

It is clear to me that VAR are over riding the KP to suit their agenda, we saw this with the Newcastle game with the image showing Dias jumping.

Today it looks like they accidentally confirmed the KP suggestion by the s/w when in fact they wanted to over ride the KP, someone cocked up probably forgot to save the override this highly likely as they are incompetent

No doubt there will be an official BS explanation
 
If they put up a wrong image then where has this image come from? There should only be the image that shows if he is offside or not. Why is there others avaialable to pick from and how can we have confidence that these images aren't being used to manipulate outcomes? There needs to be more transparency at the very least.
 
HypnoticBlue said:
Completely corrupt, investigate them and take them out of the game it’s a joke, bent bastards.
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Two massive gamechangers go against us in successive games whilst United beat Forest with a blatant handball, Pep was correct, our success is in spite of officials whilst with other teams it’s because of
 
JRockBlues said:
If they put up a wrong image then where has this image come from? There should only be the image that shows if he is offside or not. Why is there others avaialable to pick from and how can we have confidence that these images aren't being used to manipulate outcomes? There needs to be more transparency at the very least.
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Here's also the wrong image from Newcastle.
 
I think its naive and a little silly to think there is some VAR vendetta against City.
Speak to ANY supporter of any club and they have also been on the end of some hideous decisions and think VAR are against them too!!

The problem is the law makers and implementers have absolutely tied themselves in knots in what the actual laws are!
They clamp down on shit for a week or two then totally forget it.
So many incidents that are a goal one week but not the next. The law makers have just totally confused themselves.

As regards to mardarsenal not giving away a pen or having a red card, i think they have just totally taken advantage of the law makers shit show.

The powers that be are ruining football for the match going fan
 
We were told there was a margin of error for the Guimaraes goal at Newcastle, and I accepted that and understand why. We’ve known for years there’s a margin of error when Hawk Eye in tennis, so, favour the attacking team when you’re taking about millimetres, yeah, that’s fine.

Yesterday, Foden was less offside than Guimaraes was, so where is the margin of error call to favour the attacking team there?

The standard of officiating and the use of VAR has got worse since Webb stepped into his role at PIGMOL. But this season has been at an all-time low. It’s been a disgrace to be honest. The amount of game changing poor decisions we’ve had go against us and Arsenal have had go for them has been fucking pathetic.

Webb must go, he’s overseeing a disgrace. PIGMOL needs a total shake-up. We cannot continue like this.
 
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Mancini Manus Domini said:
Seriously, how can you accidentally show the wrong image?
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Don't want to sound obsessed, forget about showing the wrong image, but why is there even. a wrong image?
ninjamonkey said:
I'm going to assume he was offside and this whole they showed wrong still claim is genuine, with that assumed this just proves that the officials are grossly incompetent. You cannot get something so basic so wrong and expect anybody to have any confidence in their ability. You pick any other job you want, find an equivalent level of incompetence and find somebody that doesn't lose their job because of it. They simply cannot do what is required.

Imo Var needs specially trained, var only officials. they need to be separate from the on field refs. It's a different job requiring different skills, they struggle to do one, giving them two roles isn't a good idea the refs strictly ref and var never step foot on the pitch. keeping the two separate then reduces their natural desire to back up their mates.
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I've come to the conclusion, that (unfortunately) VAR will not be scrapped.

That being the case the ONLY way it can work (bit like goal line technology) is remove the dodgy element, the Cheating / incompetent element, the twats watching in Stockley, and indeed the refs (occasionally) going to the screen. Remove the screen (as well). Make VAR totally automatic (for offsides) and instant, (none of this late flag crap).
Remove the human element, and it might just work fairly!
 
I think the onfield referee yesterday didn't know where to put himself when the image was projected. I'd seen the ref and assistant have a conversation when the goal was scored which seemed to conclude with a thumbs up from assistant - hence the onfield decision of goal - that one was all down to VAR. I hope the referee has had a go at whoever was manipulating images.
 
.db. said:
We were told there was a margin of error for the Guimaraes goal at Newcastle, and I accepted that and understand why. We’ve known for years there’s a margin of error when Hawk Eye in tennis, so, favour the attacking team when you’re taking about millimetres, yeah, that’s fine.

Yesterday, Foden was less offside than Guimaraes was, so where is the margin of error call to favour the attacking team there?

The standard of officiating and the use of VAR has got worse since Webb stepped into his role at PIGMOL. But this season has been at an all-time low. It’s been a disgrace to be honest. The amount of game changing poor decisions we’ve had go against us and Arsenal have had go for them has been fucking pathetic.

Webb must go, he’s overseeing a disgrace. PIGMOL needs a total shake-up. We cannot continue like this.
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Webb is doing exactly what the Premier League are telling him to do.
 
cyan said:
I think the onfield referee yesterday didn't know where to put himself when the image was projected. I'd seen the ref and assistant have a conversation when the goal was scored which seemed to conclude with a thumbs up from assistant - hence the onfield decision of goal - that one was all down to VAR. I hope the referee has had a go at whoever was manipulating images.
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You would hope there would be some genuine discussion about it between the refs and VAR, indirectly they are putting the refs in a really shit position and had something been riding on the match Yesterday it could have got really nasty.
 
trublue55 said:
Don't want to sound obsessed, forget about showing the wrong image, but why is there even. a wrong image?

I've come to the conclusion, that (unfortunately) VAR will not be scrapped.

That being the case the ONLY way it can work (bit like goal line technology) is remove the dodgy element, the Cheating / incompetent element, the twats watching in Stockley, and indeed the refs (occasionally) going to the screen. Remove the screen (as well). Make VAR totally automatic (for offsides) and instant, (none of this late flag crap).
Remove the human element, and it might just work fairly!
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It’s not VAR that needs scrapping, VAR is needed, it’s the current crop of abysmal officials that need scrapping. A new lot need bringing through who will officiate games and run VAR how it should be.
 
cyan said:
I think the onfield referee yesterday didn't know where to put himself when the image was projected. I'd seen the ref and assistant have a conversation when the goal was scored which seemed to conclude with a thumbs up from assistant - hence the onfield decision of goal - that one was all down to VAR. I hope the referee has had a go at whoever was manipulating images.
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But he could have been "brave" and stuck with his on field decision.
 
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