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[Vic]

Has Farage worked out why he was against unelected EU bureaucrats' control of Britain but is OK with unelected South African oligarchs trying to do it?

 

[bluethrunthru]

Has Farage worked out why he was against unelected EU bureaucrats' control of Britain but is OK with unelected South African oligarchs trying to do it?

He and Tice are currently shitting bricks and trying to distance themselves from 'ickleTommeh after Musk went on a pro-Tommeh tweeting spree - they know that they need to capture votes off people who find both Tommeh and Musk repulsive

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

I’m fed up reporting clickbait videos on you tube it gets worse

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Awkward question - answer deflect, deflect, deflect.

Looks and talks like a wife beating ****.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Looks and talks like a wife beating ****.

The more they come under the spotlight the more they look dodgy

 

[NPBlue]

He and Tice are currently shitting bricks and trying to distance themselves from 'ickleTommeh after Musk went on a pro-Tommeh tweeting spree - they know that they need to capture votes off people who find both Tommeh and Musk repulsive

He and Tice are trying to distance themselves from brexit as well, claiming that as it's a decision we made 8 years ago, it's now boring to discuss. With no recognisable benefits leaving the EU has brought us, it's no surprise the architects of the leave campaign want us to forget they are responsible for the problems we are increasingly going to face over the next few years as the terms and conditions of the TCA, ignored and delayed by the last government, come into play.

They can say it's boring all day long, but it's a simple deflection from answering any direct questions from those that promoted leave but can't themselves state any positives that resulted from iit.

It's an interesting conundrum for Farage now, and one he'll probably find difficult to resolve, thankfully. To widen his support, he has to appeal to those that voted for centre left parties, which is most of the UK electorate. People that recognise brexit was a mistake, and don't consider immigration a central issue, core messages from reform that don't resonate with those he is now trying to attract.

 

[Damocles]

He and Tice are trying to distance themselves from brexit as well, claiming that as it's a decision we made 8 years ago, it's now boring to discuss. With no recognisable benefits leaving the EU has brought us, it's no surprise the architects of the leave campaign want us to forget they are responsible for the problems we are increasingly going to face over the next few years as the terms and conditions of the TCA, ignored and delayed by the last government, come into play.

They can say it's boring all day long, but it's a simple deflection from answering any direct questions from those that promoted leave but can't themselves state any positives that resulted from iit.

It's an interesting conundrum for Farage now, and one he'll probably find difficult to resolve, thankfully. To widen his support, he has to appeal to those that voted for centre left parties, which is most of the UK electorate. People that recognise brexit was a mistake, and don't consider immigration a central issue, core messages from reform that don't resonate with those he is now trying to attract.

Immigration has been the single biggest issue in the electorate for about 25 years. We left the EU specifically because the electorate believed it would stop immigration. The Tories were repeatedly voted in because they were seen to be tougher on immigration.
Any Party who is seen to be hard on immigration and is socially acceptable to vote for will get huge support.

 

[NPBlue]

Immigration has been the single biggest issue in the electorate for about 25 years. We left the EU specifically because the electorate believed it would stop immigration. The Tories were repeatedly voted in because they were seen to be tougher on immigration.
Any Party who is seen to be hard on immigration and is socially acceptable to vote for will get huge support.

Most people, as I said, don't regard immigration as a huge problem, and that is backed up by the opinion polls.

It might be the biggest issue in some poeples heads, especially if they read the daily mail, but how much understanding of the Dublin agreement, whereby we could, and did, send migrants back to France from Dover and elsewhere while we were members of the EU, did they have? It was a positive of membership that somehow escaped the explanations from millionaire backers of the leave campaign, like Farage and Rees[-Mogg, who were more concerned about the imposition of new tax evasion laws being introduced than anything else.

Rees-Mogg made an individual profit of £6M shorting the pound on the referendum result he backed so voiceiferously.

71% of membersahip fees paid to reforrm end up in the off shore bank accounts of the directorss, of which Nigel Farage is the largest sshareholder.

No, mate, you've got it all wrong. Immigration hasn't been the biggest issue for the last 25 years. No one was bothered about it in 2000. The biggest issue is the brainwashing of ordinary people voting for free market capitalists that want to crush the protections of those that believe their bullshit, without them seeing how they are being duped into supporting measures that are against their own best interests.

It's lke Turkeys voting for Christmas, and they've reeled them in hook, line, and sinker.

 

[Damocles]

No, mate, you've got it all wrong. Immigration hasn't been the biggest issue for the last 25 years. No one was bothered about it in 2000.

You should go and check those studies again. In the UKGov issue tracker, immigration or EU membership has been either issue 1 or 2 pretty every single year since 2001 with EU membership being a proxy for immigration.
Also as someone who has been a canvasser regularly in that time, it is the number 1 issue on the doorstep by a country mile. Shit, you can sit in almost any pub in the country for a few hours or go to any football match and you'll hear a raft of anti-immigration opinions.

I don't really know how to say this but to suggest that most of the electorate don't care about immigration is one of the more bizarre things I've read here. They DEEPLY care and they've been punishing the political establishment about it for years and years. In almost every study done, immigration is in the top two or three of "what's your biggest single issue that will drive your vote".

I hope your opinions aren't shared by those in power (and actually I know for a fact that they aren't), because if they were we'd end up with a Reform government because just like Brexit, the electorate will vote for something they think will end immigration because the Government aren't listening.

 

[bluethrunthru]

He and Tice are trying to distance themselves from brexit as well, claiming that as it's a decision we made 8 years ago, it's now boring to discuss. With no recognisable benefits leaving the EU has brought us, it's no surprise the architects of the leave campaign want us to forget they are responsible for the problems we are increasingly going to face over the next few years as the terms and conditions of the TCA, ignored and delayed by the last government, come into play.

They can say it's boring all day long, but it's a simple deflection from answering any direct questions from those that promoted leave but can't themselves state any positives that resulted from iit.

It's an interesting conundrum for Farage now, and one he'll probably find difficult to resolve, thankfully. To widen his support, he has to appeal to those that voted for centre left parties, which is most of the UK electorate. People that recognise brexit was a mistake, and don't consider immigration a central issue, core messages from reform that don't resonate with those he is now trying to attract.

Just watched Tice on Trevor Phillips - all over the shop - every question is now an attack line

 

[BlueHammer85]

Richard Tice on LBC just now, one of the most car crash interviews ever - If anyone is seriously thinking of voting Reform it’s just beyond pity.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Richard Tice on LBC just now, one of the most car crash interviews ever - If anyone is seriously thinking of voting Reform it’s just beyond pity.

Both Farage and Tice have been on everything this morning, the media love them. The Lib Dem’s, our 3rd biggest party, don’t get a look in and Reform seem to get more publicity than many of the major parties.

You’d almost think that these outlets want to see Farage in power. I wonder what he’s got in common with all these establishment billionaires?

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Immigration has been the single biggest issue in the electorate for about 25 years. We left the EU specifically because the electorate believed it would stop immigration. The Tories were repeatedly voted in because they were seen to be tougher on immigration.
Any Party who is seen to be hard on immigration and is socially acceptable to vote for will get huge support.

I agree. It’s the single biggest issue effecting pretty much every election in the western world right now - its arguably the main reason leave won, trump won and all these populists parties are coming into power.

If labour bring the numbers down and start controlling legal/illegal migration they’d probably win the next election.

 

[blueinsa]

Both Farage and Tice have been on everything this morning, the media love them. The Lib Dem’s, our 3rd biggest party, don’t get a look in and Reform seem to get more publicity than many of the major parties.

You’d almost think that these outlets want to see Farage in power. I wonder what he’s got in common with all these establishment billionaires?

Reform where the 3rd biggest party by vote share at the last election.

 

[Bluemanc100]

I agree. It’s the single biggest issue effecting pretty much every election in the western world right now - its arguably the main reason leave won, trump won and all these populists parties are coming into power.

If labour bring the numbers down and start controlling legal/illegal migration they’d probably win the next election.

If my Auntie had balls she’d be my Uncle

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I agree. It’s the single biggest issue effecting pretty much every election in the western world right now - its arguably the main reason leave won, trump won and all these populists parties are coming into power.

If labour bring the numbers down and start controlling legal/illegal migration they’d probably win the next election.

No one will bring the numbers down. Especially Reform.

 

[bluethrunthru]

 

[BrianW]

I think you will find that polls state that immigration is quite a high priority, but not the top priority by any means.

The problem is it's impossible to have an objective, mature debate on immigration and politicians know it. Too much emotion is involved.

Our demographics mean we need a degree of immigration. How much and to cover what skills is open to debate, as are the costs and implications of reducing it by training more native Brits to cover shortages in certain professions.

Just warbling about it gets us nowhere. Under the Tories, 97% of immigrants arrived legally on visas. 3% were asylum seekers of whom roughly 70% were thought to be genuine when processed. (Much of the problem was caused by deliberate delays in processing.) These are the broad facts and you have to start from there when considering how to reduce these totals.

 

[Blue and true]

Immigration has been the single biggest issue in the electorate for about 25 years. We left the EU specifically because the electorate believed it would stop immigration. The Tories were repeatedly voted in because they were seen to be tougher on immigration.
Any Party who is seen to be hard on immigration and is socially acceptable to vote for will get huge support.

Has immigration ever had an adverse affect on your life in the UK? Has it stopped you pursuing a career and earning a livelihood? Are you forced to adhere to other faiths aside from your own? Are too many fish and chip shops being phased out in your locality for curry houses?

Note: I'm only inferring you have an issue with immigration and immigrants because of the tone of your post. If you don't, feel free to disregard those questions.

 

[meltonblue]

Reform where the 3rd biggest party by vote share at the last election.

That doesn’t mean they should get more coverage than a party that has 72 members of parliament though. For the electorate, they are far more important.