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I think they thought they had Caerphilly locked down.

Good to see that the polls overestimated their popularity.
 
hampshireblue said:
Using that argument nothing is free; education, NHS, road usage, nothing.

The question is which "free" vital services are we prepared to forego?

Rates are 1.25% lower than the peak in 2023 and stripping away the unsustainably low rate of 2009-2022, are back to around the long term average. I'm not sure where you believe they should be right now but I suspect anything the government has done has not made more than 0.25- 0.5% difference.
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Come on mate, you know BkB
 
so - Farage AND Yusuf fucked off once they knew they were losing and the loser didn't give a speech after the count. Sore fucking losers the lot of them. That is the last Powell will see of them - I suspect he will not be allowed to stand as a candidate for them again illustrating how Farage and Yusuf use you and drop you once you are done with

news.sky.com

Caerphilly by-election: Just like that! In Tommy Cooper's birthplace, Farage nowhere to be seen as Reform loses

The joke among Plaid supporters at the count was that long before the declaration Mr Farage was halfway down the M4 on his way back to London, Jon Craig writes.
news.sky.com news.sky.com
 
bluethrunthru said:
so - Farage AND Yusuf fucked off once they knew they were losing and the loser didn't give a speech after the count. Sore fucking losers the lot of them. That is the last Powell will see of them - I suspect he will not be allowed to stand as a candidate for them again illustrating how Farage and Yusuf use you and drop you once you are done with

news.sky.com

Caerphilly by-election: Just like that! In Tommy Cooper's birthplace, Farage nowhere to be seen as Reform loses

The joke among Plaid supporters at the count was that long before the declaration Mr Farage was halfway down the M4 on his way back to London, Jon Craig writes.
news.sky.com news.sky.com
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Both Farage and Useless have faces I would never tire of slapping
 
MCFC1993 said:
I think they thought they had Caerphilly locked down.

Good to see that the polls overestimated their popularity.
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Plaid winning in South Wales is a big thing, completely rejecting the Labour party is a huge move in Welsh politics.
I just hope Plaid keep winning in other South Wales communities as they all reject Tory & Tory lite ( Labour party) politics
 
Interesting comment just now: The Caerphilly population is 97% white, but Reform made it the centre of their campaign(after all what else do they have?). It is seen the population were more afraid of those campaigning on immigration than the immigrants themselves.
 
hampshireblue said:
Interesting comment just now: The Caerphilly population is 97% white, but Reform made it the centre of their campaign(after all what else do they have?). It is seen the population were more afraid of those campaigning on immigration than the immigrants themselves.
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Well if you're going to make nationalism a big campaign point, then don't be surprised if people vote for the true Welsh party. Let's not kid ourselves though reform still got a lot of votes.
 
hampshireblue said:
Using that argument nothing is free; education, NHS, road usage, nothing.

The question is which "free" vital services are we prepared to forego?

Rates are 1.25% lower than the peak in 2023 and stripping away the unsustainably low rate of 2009-2022, are back to around the long term average. I'm not sure where you believe they should be right now but I suspect anything the government has done has not made more than 0.25- 0.5% difference.
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Nothing is free when it comes to the services government provides, so to suggest that childcare is ‘free’ under one party but not another makes no sense. Especially when the tax burden is under such scrutiny ahead of the Budget.

Again, suggesting that this government is the cause of lower interest rates is similarly misleading. Each percentage point on bank rate costs an extra £8bn per annum currently, as does an extra percentage point on RPI inflation, so inflationary tax increases are actually very significant for debt servicing.
 
What happened lads?

Maybe there wasn't enough flags put up or pints sunk?

Disappointing times for the man of the people
 
Scottyboi said:
Well if you're going to make nationalism a big campaign point, then don't be surprised if people vote for the true Welsh party. Let's not kid ourselves though reform still got a lot of votes.
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People are abandoning Labour and the Tories, having Reform surging as the alternative is very worrying as they don’t have any other policy away from immigration they can talk about and show that it is sensibly costed out to actually work.
 
John Curtice has just raised the possibility that Reform backing has topped out at about 1/3 over recent months, and that that is great at council level, but not enough at a larger scale.
 
Brewster's millions said:
Nothing is free when it comes to the services government provides, so to suggest that childcare is ‘free’ under one party but not another makes no sense. Especially when the tax burden is under such scrutiny ahead of the Budget.

Again, suggesting that this government is the cause of lower interest rates is similarly misleading. Each percentage point on bank rate costs an extra £8bn per annum currently, as does an extra percentage point on RPI inflation, so inflationary tax increases are actually very significant for debt servicing.
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No, it isn't and that was the point I was making. It may have helped if you had gone on to say nothing ever is free.

At no time did I say they were the cause of lower rates, but challenging your suggestion that rates are significantly higher because of the governement. I note you don't suggest a figure as to where rates woulda/coulda/shoulda have been had Labour not been in power or indeed which essential government provided services should be cut and particularly which group of people should be worse off as a consequence.

You also made no comments on a previous discussion about retailers taking the opportunity to raise profits and margins whilst at the same time complaining about increased government imposed costs.

I think where we do agree is that we would like to see both inflation and interest rates lower than where they are now. Both government and retailers can help achieve that.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
People are abandoning Labour and the Tories, having Reform surging as the alternative is very worrying as they don’t have any other policy away from immigration they can talk about and show that it is sensibly costed out to actually work.
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Not worried at all about Reform.
They are already showing how incompetent they are trying to run local councils. To be expected when you see the calibre of their representatives.

They are already watering down their promises to stop illegal immigration by now suggesting it will take at least one parliament to bare any fruit ( if at all).

They are policy light and those that they do purport, have been debunked by many as being unaffordable and unrealistic.

When it gets closer to an election, they will have to publish a manifesto which will be scrutinised more than they are being now, and it will then unravel for them. ( if they haven’t self destructed by then)
 
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