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That laugh Kay Burley does at the end when she's given Tice a chance to think about what he's saying is the laugh that I've adopted whenever I see anything associated with JRM/Johnson/Reform/Trump/Farage/etc/Kemi Badun/Starmer for the past 10 years.

Its just so blatantly a bunch of lying cunts lying like cunts to our faces. The lying cunts.
Why does nobody ever face any consequences for it all?
If they all lie, and they do, you only have 2 choices. Vote for a liar or don't and let other people vote for a liar.Either way you get a liar. Although a truthful politician wouldn't last long so I guess it's probably our fault ultimately..
 
Latest you gov poll gives these fuckers the highest voting intention of all parties.

We laugh at the state of them winning a handful of council seats etc but, ALL parties need to not let the public sleep walk into a UK Trump situation.

We have enough 'spark when walking' knuckle draggers to make this lot a force.
 
Farage grilled on the Today programme. For the fisherman from North Shields struggling to sell his langoustines Farage couldn't say what he would do to improve things. But he'd want a free trade deal with the USA because, wait for it, our trade with the EU has gone down. Did he really think Brexit wouldn't do that?
 
Latest you gov poll gives these fuckers the highest voting intention of all parties.

We laugh at the state of them winning a handful of council seats etc but, ALL parties need to not let the public sleep walk into a UK Trump situation.

We have enough 'spark when walking' knuckle draggers to make this lot a force.

Two things to note are any polls over 4 years out from a GE are meaningless and second its not about total numbers of votes its where they get them as the last GE shows
 
Think many are forgetting the constant constant anti Labour/Starmer rhetoric on social media - Millions are getting sucked in daily and will feel Reform is the only party that can offer 'real change' .
we're screwed.
 
Think many are forgetting the constant constant anti Labour/Starmer rhetoric on social media - Millions are getting sucked in daily and will feel Reform is the only party that can offer 'real change' .
we're screwed.
If only he hadn't lied and misled us, I'm sure he and we would all sleep much better at night. The "anti Labour/Starmer rhetoric" (in my cas at least) is based on the fact he has totally shafted the elderly and working people. Not the greatest act of socialism is it..... ? Oh hang on a minute....
 
If only he hadn't lied and misled us, I'm sure he and we would all sleep much better at night. The "anti Labour/Starmer rhetoric" (in my cas at least) is based on the fact he has totally shafted the elderly and working people. Not the greatest act of socialism is it..... ? Oh hang on a minute....

Forget the last 14 years that Labour had to inherit? WFA and Tax rises on corporations haven’t shafted the elderly and working people in the vast vast majority of cases - tough decisions were needed to take when you inherit 22 billion black hole, strikes all over the country and services on its knees. Labour are working tirelessly for this country - but far easier to lap up the Farage anti boat rhetoric for those with little brain cells.
 
Forget the last 14 years that Labour had to inherit? WFA and Tax rises on corporations haven’t shafted the elderly and working people in the vast vast majority of cases - tough decisions were needed to take when you inherit 22 billion black hole, strikes all over the country and services on its knees. Labour are working tirelessly for this country - but far easier to lap up the Farage anti boat rhetoric for those with little brain cells.
So you accept Labour either lied their way into power or....they are just not up to the job?

Don't keep on diverting attention toward what Farage might do to cover up the sham and lies of Labour. Face up to it they just haven't a clue how to run a bath.... never mind a country. They took the job on knowing what the challenges were (or I least I hope they did but I do wonder) they need to stop hiding behind others' failure to justify their own.

I might suggest that the hike in employers NI contribution is going to have a huge effect on working people through job losses and significant increases in the Cost of Living

They will be found out. just wait and see.
 
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It’s insane that people think that Farage is the answer to anything.

He’s an agitator. A professional moaner that grifts from tuning into the nasty side of humans’ nature.

Have we got to a stage in society where more people only care about themselves and want everyone else punished to make life as shit as possible for everyone?

If so, we’ll get PM Farage and then god only know what will be left of the country come 2034.
 
So you accept Labour either lied their way into power or....they are just not up to the job?

Do you accept that Labour were unaware of the huge deficit, billions of black hole and the actual state the Torie party left this country in ?
 
It’s insane that people think that Farage is the answer to anything.

He’s an agitator. A professional moaner that grifts from tuning into the nasty side of humans’ nature.

Have we got to a stage in society where more people only care about themselves and want everyone else punished to make life as shit as possible for everyone?

If so, we’ll get PM Farage and then god only know what will be left of the country come 2034.

We tend to copy the trend in America, so yep, Farage will no doubt be the answer and Make Engerland Great Again.
 
Do you accept that Labour were unaware of the huge deficit, billions of black hole and the actual state the Torie party left this country in ?
Not really, a little more research would I have ensured they would have been aware.... and knowing there was a huge black hole, where did the money come from to fund train drivers, or did they just decide to add to it?

Lets be honest they've fucked up. it is OK to admit you made mistakes andI'm sure you'll be better respeted for it. Better still would to have funded the deal.
 
Not really, a little more research would I have ensured they would have been aware.... and knowing there was a huge black hole, where did the money come from to fund train drivers, or did they just decide to add to it?

Lets be honest they've fucked up. it is OK to admit you made mistakes andI'm sure you'll be better respeted for it. Better still would to have funded the deal.

So you would have preferred train drivers not to have been paid and continue strikes which were costing the economy billions ?
 
So you would have preferred train drivers not to have been paid and continue strikes which were costing the economy billions ?
It's best if you don't give in to blackmail IMO.

Had the train drivers just used their heads and worked to rule by refusing overtime I'm sure it would have had a much more positive press.

Still you can't beat "pay me more or we'll fuck the country up".

I also disagree with the doctors pay deal but that was much more justified since their actual earnings had fallen by around 30% which i agree was disgraceful, but the answer is not to throw money you haven't got at it. Could have sat down and worked out a longer term deal.
 
It's best if you don't give in to blackmail IMO.

Had the train drivers just used their heads and worked to rule by refusing overtime I'm sure it would have had a much more positive press.

Still you can't beat "pay me more or we'll fuck the country up".

I also disagree with the doctors pay deal but that was much more justified since their actual earnings had fallen by around 30% which i agree was disgraceful, but the answer is not to throw money you haven't got at it. Could have sat down and worked out a longer term deal.

Tories had years to do this , they didn't even try to negotiate , it was beyond disgraceful - the years of train/health care strikes absolutely crippled us and cost billions, forget to add the loss of so many doctors/nurses who moved abroad to get fairer pay. It wasn't just about pay either, especially in train sector - it was also down to terms and conditions of hours, pensions etc, it's a lazy argument that they just wanted more money.

Labour came in and got this country moving again and ending the strikes in the NHS - The lifeblood of this country. It had to be resolved straight away.
 
Think many are forgetting the constant constant anti Labour/Starmer rhetoric on social media - Millions are getting sucked in daily and will feel Reform is the only party that can offer 'real change' .
we're screwed.

If only he hadn't lied and misled us, I'm sure he and we would all sleep much better at night. The "anti Labour/Starmer rhetoric" (in my cas at least) is based on the fact he has totally shafted the elderly and working people. Not the greatest act of socialism is it..... ? Oh hang on a minute....
Exhibit A Mi' Lud.
 
So you accept Labour either lied their way into power or....they are just not up to the job?

Don't keep on diverting attention toward what Farage might do to cover up the sham and lies of Labour. Face up to it they just haven't a clue how to run a bath.... never mind a country. They took the job on knowing what the challenges were (or I least I hope they did but I do wonder) they need to stop hiding behind others' failure to justify their own.

I might suggest that the hike in employers NI contribution is going to have a huge effect on working people through job losses and significant increases in the Cost of Living

They will be found out. just wait and see.
Yeah, it's going to be horrendous. Sainsbury's sacking thousands while making a billion pound profit.
 
We tend to copy the trend in America, so yep, Farage will no doubt be the answer and Make Engerland Great Again.
Somehow, I think backing Trump's USA v normalcy will take its toll on his popularity - unless his appeal to patriotic Brits turns to persuading them that subservience to the EU (in which we had a major say) is worse than submission to a foreign dictatorship in which we have no say. Let's hear it from the Reform types - is that what you want?
 

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