Reform UK Party Limited Company

[Dax777]

Yes, yes it does.

Nope that's just silly reasoning. That said, ge is not racist. He is just not a coward.

 

[Damocles]

Yes, yes it does.

So when Musk says that the sky is blue, you believe that's wrong?

 

[blueparrot]

Nope that's just silly reasoning. That said, ge is not racist. He is just not a coward.

That doen't even mean anything, it's just a weaslelly excuse for supporting him.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Farage is trying to whitewash his past now - all the NF and BNP and EDL links - hence distancing himself from Tommeh but look up Martyn Heale - his campaign manager in Thanet

 

[Damocles]

Farage is trying to whitewash his past now - all the NF and BNP and EDL links - hence distancing himself from Tommeh but look up Martyn Heale - his campaign manager in Thanet

And Jeremy Corbyn had people in Labour who supported extremism in the past.

This is yet another media smear tactic people use on politicians - the idea that if they know someone who holds bad views then they themselves must hold bad views. I'm 99.999% sure if we were given history of your life that public figures have to endure, then we'd find the same links everywhere.

Have you seen what right wing Twitter is doing at the moment with basically every Labour front bencher? Exactly this tactic but around paedophilia. It's dumb. It doesn't mean anything.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

And Jeremy Corbyn had people in Labour who supported extremism in the past.

This is yet another media smear tactic people use on politicians - the idea that if they know someone who holds bad views then they themselves must hold bad views. I'm 99.999% sure if we were given history of your life that public figures have to endure, then we'd find the same links everywhere.

Have you seen what right wing Twitter is doing at the moment with basically every Labour front bencher? Exactly this tactic but around paedophilia. It's dumb. It doesn't mean anything.

Both sides are not the same.

Farage has made a career out of being an acceptable face for extreme right wing politics. There is a consistent pattern of his political parties being full of nazi sympathisers and racists. He left UKIP as it had a Democratic structure and he couldn't stop the unrepentant racist element from taking positions of power and causing embarrassment. Reform is designed specifically to not have a leadership structure, so he doesn't have to worry about the types of supporters he has being outed. Except of course when he needed candidates for the GE where predictably loads of them turned out to be racists.

Labour and the tories have there issues but its generally a small minority. Farage is almost exclusively supported by racists.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Musk is a racist, that doesn't mean everything he says ever is wrong.

Fixed that for you.

 

[Damocles]

Both sides are not the same.

Farage has made a career out of being an acceptable face for extreme right wing politics. There is a consistent pattern of his political parties being full of nazi sympathisers and racists. He left UKIP as it had a Democratic structure and he couldn't stop the unrepentant racist element from taking positions of power and causing embarrassment. Reform is designed specifically to not have a leadership structure, so he doesn't have to worry about the types of supporters he has being outed. Except of course when he needed candidates for the GE where predictably loads of them turned out to be racists.

Labour and the tories have there issues but its generally a small minority. Farage is almost exclusively supported by racists.

Both sides sharing similar problems does not imply that both sides are the same though.

No different then if I were to say that Savinho reminds me a little of Neymar, it doesn't mean I think he's as good as Neymar nor even that I think he's a very similar player to Neymar. Comparison of similar traits does not imply similarity of the whole. It doesn't even imply that the trait is at the same level on both.

 

[WRicko]

He'll want Tommy Robinson, as his record is just as good as Trumps.

Imprisonment for criminal offences​

Robinson's criminal record includes convictions for violence, financial, and immigration frauds, cocaine possession with intent to supply, and public order offences.[133][134][135] He had previously served at least three separate custodial sentences: in 2005 for assault, in 2012 for using false travel documents, and in 2014 for mortgage fraud.[13][136][137]

Assault​

In April 2005 at Luton Crown Court, Robinson was convicted of assault occasioning actual bodily harm and assault with intent to resist arrest against an off-duty police officer in July 2004. The officer had intervened in an argument in the street between Robinson and his then girlfriend, Jenna Vowles. In the struggle that followed, Robinson kicked the officer in the head as he lay on the ground. Robinson received sentences of 12 months and 3 months, which were served concurrently.[138]

In September 2011, at Preston Magistrates' Court, Robinson was convicted of assault for headbutting a man in Blackburn on 2 April 2011.[139][33] In November 2011, he was given a 12-week jail term, suspended for 12 months.[140]

Public order offence​

In July 2011, at Luton and South Bedfordshire Magistrates' Court, Robinson was convicted of using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour, for leading a group of Luton Town F.C. supporters into a brawl involving 100 people in Luton on 24 August 2010. He was sentenced to a 12-month community rehabilitation order, 150 hours of unpaid work and given a three-year football banning order.[27][141]

Use of false passport​

In October 2012, Robinson was arrested and held on the charge of having entered the United States illegally. He had used a passport in the name of Andrew McMaster to board a Virgin Atlantic flight from London Heathrow to New York City.[13] He had been banned from entering the US due to his criminal record. Upon arriving at John F. Kennedy International Airport, US Customs and Border Protection officials took his fingerprints, and discovered he was not McMaster. After being asked to attend a second interview, he left the airport, entering the US illegally in the process. He stayed one night and returned to the UK the following day using his own passport.

Robinson pleaded guilty at Southwark Crown Court after using a passport that did not belong to him to travel to the United States in September 2012. He was subsequently sentenced in January 2013 to 10 months' imprisonment.[13][142][143] Judge Alistair McCreath told him: "What you did went absolutely to the heart of the immigration controls that the United States are entitled to have. It's not in any sense trivial."[13] He was released on an electronic tag on 22 February 2013.[144]

Irish passport​

Via his mother, an Irish immigrant to Britain, Robinson reportedly qualifies for an Irish passport as Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. In August 2024, three Irish TDs asked their government to investigate the validity of his Irish passport after it emerged he had given his place of birth as "Ireland".[145]

Mortgage fraud​

In November 2012, Robinson was charged with three counts of conspiracy to commit fraud by misrepresentation in relation to a mortgage application, along with five other defendants.[146] He pleaded guilty to two charges and in January 2014 was sentenced to 18 months imprisonment.[147][143]

Robinson's fraud amounted to £160,000 over a period of six months. Judge Andrew Bright described him as the "instigator, if not the architect" of a series of frauds totalling £640,000. "This was an operation which was fraudulent from the outset and involved a significant amount of forward planning." He described Robinson as a "fixer" who had introduced others to fraudulent mortgage broker Deborah Rothschild. Rothschild had assisted some defendants by providing fake pay slips and income details.[136]

Robinson was attacked by several fellow prisoners in HM Prison Woodhill.[148][149] Following news of the attack, Maajid Nawaz wrote to the Secretary of State for Justice, Chris Grayling, asking for Robinson's situation to be urgently addressed.[149][150] Shortly after this incident, Robinson was moved to HM Prison Winchester. Robinson told Jamie Bartlett, a director of the think tank Demos: "In Woodhill, I experienced Islam the gang. [...] In Winchester, I have experienced Islam the religion." Robinson made friends with several Muslim prisoners, referring to them as "great lads [...] I cannot speak highly enough of the Muslim inmates I'm now living with".[151] In June 2014, Robinson was released on licence. The terms of his early release included having no contact with the EDL until the end of his original sentence in June 2015.[151] He was due to talk to the Oxford Union in October 2014, but was recalled to prison before the event for breaching the terms of his licence.[152] He was ultimately released on 14 November 2014.[153]

Imprisonment for contempt of court​

On 10 May 2017, Robinson was charged with contempt of court, and convicted.[133][134][135] He had filmed inside Canterbury Crown Court and posted prejudicial statements calling the defendants "Muslim child rapists" while the jury was deliberating. Judge Heather Norton said Robinson used "pejorative language in his broadcast which prejudged the outcome of the case and could have had the effect of substantially derailing the trial."[154] She added, "this is not about free speech, not about the freedom of the press, nor about legitimate journalism, and not about political correctness. It is about justice and ensuring that a trial can be carried out justly and fairly, it's about being innocent until proven guilty. It is about preserving the integrity of the jury to continue without people being intimidated or being affected by irresponsible and inaccurate 'reporting', if that's what it was."[155]

The court later wrongly stated that Robinson had been sentenced to three months' imprisonment, suspended for 18 months and entered that incorrect result in the court records. In law, he had been committed to prison for a period of three months but suspended that committal for eighteen months. That technical error, the distinction between committed to prison and sentenced to imprisonment was identified and corrected by the Court of Appeal.[156] The incorrect result was reported in the press.[154][157]

The ramifications of this technical error came into effect in 2018 when the suspended prison sentence was activated. Robinson was again found to be in contempt of court at Leeds, again wrongly given a sentence of imprisonment and the Canterbury suspended sentence activated.[156] Both sentences were for the offence of contempt of court, which can include speeches or publications that create a "substantial risk that the course of justice in the proceedings in question will be seriously impeded or prejudiced".[155] He was later released following a successful challenge to the court's sentencing procedure.[154] A rehearing was ordered.

2018 imprisonment​

Robinson was jailed and later released in mid-2018 for almost collapsing the Huddersfield grooming gang trial.[154][158]

On 25 May 2018, Robinson was arrested for a breach of the peace while live streaming outside Leeds Crown Court[155][159] during the trial of the Huddersfield grooming gang on which reporting restrictions had been ordered by the judge.[160] Following Robinson's arrest, Judge Geoffrey Marson QC[161] issued a further reporting restriction on Robinson's case, prohibiting any reporting of Robinson's case or the grooming trial until the latter case was complete.[162][159]

The reporting restriction with regard to Robinson was lifted on 29 May 2018, following a challenge by journalists. The media reported that Robinson had admitted contempt of court by publishing information that could prejudice an ongoing trial, and had been jailed for 13 months.[72] Judge Marson sentenced Robinson to ten months for contempt of court and his previous three months' suspended sentence was activated because of the breach. Robinson's lawyer said that Robinson felt "deep regret" after comprehending the potential consequences of his behaviour.[161] Having breached a temporary section 4 (2) order under the Contempt of Court Act 1981,[163] Robinson was told that if a retrial had to be held as a result of his actions the cost could be "hundreds and hundreds of thousands of pounds". Dominic Casciani, the BBC's home affairs correspondent, said, "This is not some new form of censorship directed at Robinson. These are rules that apply to us all, equally. If he is unsure about that, he's now got time on his hands to read a copy of Essential Law for Journalists."[161][164]

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The mortgage point is interesting I didn’t know the details and he Tommy well supporters have been on Twitter posting interviews with him making it look very convincingly look like a stitch up

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

The mortgage point is interesting I didn’t know the details and he Tommy well supporters have been on Twitter posting interviews with him making it look very convincingly look like a stitch up

Cheers for that, now I have “The Mortgage Point, 745 9494, The Mortgage Point” going through my head.