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[Vic]

Can you explain why this racist has just gone to war with his own base in order to bring more non-white people into America? That seems a strange hill to die on for a racist.

And even if Musk is a racist, that doesn't mean everything he says ever is wrong. I struggle to see how people can function on this planet and think like this.
Morally bad people can have good and thoughtful ideas too, just not on the issues that they're morally bad on. Ideas are ideas, their truth value isn't determined by who said them.

Yeah, and Mussolini made the trains run on time.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Can you explain why this racist has just gone to war with his own base in order to bring more non-white people into America? That seems a strange hill to die on for a racist.

Money - he has loads and like most rich people he wants more. He can get a highly qualified Indian to work for him and pay them less simply because they are grateful to get a visa to the USA - a redneck farmer lacks the qualifications and ability and a US graduate would expect higher pay and more benefits to do the work.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Can you explain why this racist has just gone to war with his own base in order to bring more non-white people into America? That seems a strange hill to die on for a racist.

And even if Musk is a racist, that doesn't mean everything he says ever is wrong. I struggle to see how people can function on this planet and think like this.
Morally bad people can have good and thoughtful ideas too, just not on the issues that they're morally bad on. Ideas are ideas, their truth value isn't determined by who said them.

Whatever his motives he is constantly spreading disinformation, lies and hate on the biggest social media platform he owns.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Can you explain why this racist has just gone to war with his own base in order to bring more non-white people into America? That seems a strange hill to die on for a racist.

I know the visa scheme he has defended very well as I work for an American company and moving there on a H1B is something many of my colleagues have done and something I could do.

Those visas allow you to live and work in the US subject to you keeping the job that allowed you to get the visa. You can't quit and you are in a very strange work relationship where getting fired also means getting deported. It's very difficult to move jobs to another firm.

So when musk bought Twitter and started ripping the guts out of the organisation he knew all the employees on H1B would not quit. I'd also bet they are paid circa 50% of the wages for us citizens in the same roles. its like a two tier system, something as a south African Musk will be familiar with. So yeah he likes those visas.

This is just a simple case of the interests of the billionaires being prioritised over the maga base. This will no doubt become a theme of the Trump presidency.

And even if Musk is a racist, that doesn't mean everything he says ever is wrong. I struggle to see how people can function on this planet and think like this.
Morally bad people can have good and thoughtful ideas too, just not on the issues that they're morally bad on. Ideas are ideas, their truth value isn't determined by who said them.

Fred West probably has some good advice on the construction of patios. Doesn't mean we should all have to talk about it.

 

[M18CTID]

I know the visa scheme he has defended very well as I work for an American company and moving there on a H1B is something many of my colleagues have done and something I could do.

Those visas allow you to live and work in the US subject to you keeping the job that allowed you to get the visa. You can't quit and you are in a very strange work relationship where getting fired also means getting deported. It's very difficult to move jobs to another firm.

So when musk bought Twitter and started ripping the guts out of the organisation he knew all the employees on H1B would not quit. I'd also bet they are paid circa 50% of the wages for us citizens in the same roles. its like a two tier system, something as a south African Musk will be familiar with. So yeah he likes those visas.

This is just a simple case of the interests of the billionaires being prioritised over the maga base. This will no doubt become a theme of the Trump presidency.


Fred West probably has some good advice on the construction of patios. Doesn't mean we should all have to talk about it.

You got in there about half an hour before me! I also heard that Peter Sutcliffe could teach budding lorry drivers a thing or two about turning up for work on time ;)

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Can you explain why this racist has just gone to war with his own base in order to bring more non-white people into America? That seems a strange hill to die on for a racist.

I'd say he's most likely not a racist, but he's using racism for his own benefit when it suits him. Which is why there is inevitably a lack of consistency in his position when the racist shit he stirs up threatens his profit margins. A lot of people spread racist shit with an element of plausible deniability so that when it inevitably leads to racist actions that are beyond the pale, they distance themselves from the consequences. See also: Farage, Braverman, Patel and the Southport riots. Are they racist, or are they just spreading racism to benefit themselves? Does it actually matter?

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

I'd say he's most likely not a racist, but he's using racism for his own benefit when it suits him. Which is why there is inevitably a lack of consistency in his position when the racist shit he stirs up threatens his profit margins. A lot of people spread racist shit with an element of plausible deniability so that when it inevitably leads to racist actions that are beyond the pale, they distance themselves from the consequences. See also: Farage, Braverman, Patel and the Southport riots. Are they racist, or are they just spreading racism to benefit themselves? Does it actually matter?

Having worked with various south africans over the years and seeing what he has done with Twitter I would suggest he is 100% a racist and white supremacist.

 

[Damocles]

Fred West probably has some good advice on the construction of patios. Doesn't mean we should all have to talk about it.

If he found a new method or idea of how to create patios cheaper and quicker but to the same standards as industry then we should absolutely listen, digest and adapt.

"I don't like this idea because of who said it" is the stupidest opinion that its even possible to hold.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

If he found a new method or idea of how to create patios cheaper and quicker but to the same standards as industry then we should absolutely listen, digest and adapt.

"I don't like this idea because of who said it" is the stupidest opinion that its even possible to hold.

Reputation matters though. You might think in principle that what you are saying is correct, but he wouldn’t be listened to for his patio building.

If Prince Andrew did a series of Xmas lectures, his audience would be minuscule, but full of cranks trying to find an edgy angle to create clicks and content for people to engage with.

 

[stonerblue]

Can you explain why this racist has just gone to war with his own base in order to bring more non-white people into America? That seems a strange hill to die on for a racist.

And even if Musk is a racist, that doesn't mean everything he says ever is wrong. I struggle to see how people can function on this planet and think like this.
Morally bad people can have good and thoughtful ideas too, just not on the issues that they're morally bad on. Ideas are ideas, their truth value isn't determined by who said them.

Six racist and bigoted comments you might have missed from Trump’s New York rally

Speakers at ex-president’s Madison Square Garden event spewed hateful rhetoric aimed at immigrants, Black and trans people and women

www.theguardian.com

Oops, wrong racist..