Refugee crisis

what a life - fleeing from bombs, rape and torture , struggling to survive, treacherous journey over sea and walking in extreme conditions, met by border police refusing to be let in, pepper sprayed, surrounded by other desperate people and then having to deal with a very large minority that would rather them 'f*ck off back to where they come from ''
 
Monkfish said:
no women and children in pitched battles with tear gas chucking Hungarian police shocker!
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they were there though.
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going by what I read when the Ferguson riots were going on is water makes tear gas worse, use milk if you can.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
what a life - fleeing from bombs, rape and torture , struggling to survive, treacherous journey over sea and walking in extreme conditions, met by border police refusing to be let in, pepper sprayed, surrounded by other desperate people and then having to deal with a very large minority that would rather them 'f*ck off back to where they come from ''
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There is a bit of a back story coming out now that whilst a good percentage are Syrians fleeing the war there there is also a fair percentage if economic refugees particularly from the Levant posing as Syrians it's all very confusing
 
I wasnt going to add to this thread and some of you will wish i hadnt, but i am ashamed that australia has agreed to accept 12,000 of these refugees.
Everyone knows the policy that Australia has on people seeking asylum or illegal immigrants, and i will use the correct term unlike the former leaders us of a disgraceful term in "Boat People".
Its not that my heart isnt in the right place, nor am i shallow, but there is 1500 asylum seekers sat in disgusting conditions and being treated worse than stray dogs at the moment and this is all because of the Abbott government.
Fathers and Mothers, Elderly and Children, that braved wicked seas in fishing boats that are basically held together by string.
They have then been shipped to these centres where you would not allow a refugee to inhabit and have been held for 18 months and longer.
I think its disgusting that the attention has been taken away from these maximum security "prisons" to ensure these refugees get a safe passage into the country.
Having worked for a leading humanitarian charity in this country, the stories that you would read through google or any other news agency is very real and people are being treated the same way the Americans treated Iraqi prisoners all those years ago.
Its an awful situation.
Maybe this should be helped first
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
hungarian police using force to try and move the refugees away from the border. one thing I'm noticing is that the majority of the refugees appear to be young males... barely any women and children there ( going off tv pics)
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You must be watching dif pictures to me then as I've seen thousands of women and children crying out for help
I'd like to think our shithouse of a leader will intervene and help out, maybe even take the burden off some of these country's and open our doors to a fair few of them, Like now!
 
The blue phantom said:
You must be watching dif pictures to me then as I've seen thousands of women and children crying out for help
I'd like to think our shithouse of a leader will intervene and help out, maybe even take the burden off some of these country's and open our doors to a fair few of them, Like now!
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How many do you propose?
How about some of the richer Arab nations taking a quota.
Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Qatar. Zero taken in.
 
W12 said:
How many do you propose?
How about some of the richer Arab nations taking a quota.
Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Qatar. Zero taken in.
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That is undeniably true, but shouldn't we, the British, hold ourselves to the highest standards, not the lowest? Should we not measure ourselves by how well we act, not by how poorly others act?
 
BlueHammer85 said:
what a life - fleeing from bombs, rape and torture , struggling to survive, treacherous journey over sea and walking in extreme conditions, met by border police refusing to be let in, pepper sprayed, surrounded by other desperate people and then having to deal with a very large minority that would rather them 'f*ck off back to where they come from ''
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It's the amount and the organisation of it all everyone knew this was going to happen especially when the Germans foolishly said their doors were open, they are as much to blame for this what did they expect, it should have been structured with well financed and equipped camps and then taken from there, the problem is it has become a free for all with many economic migrants seeing this as an opportunity to get into Europe
 
Presume this is over the refugee crisis

The unrest in Germany is never shown on the BBC and other news channels.


 
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Ducado said:
It's the amount and the organisation of it all everyone knew this was going to happen especially when the Germans foolishly said their doors were open, they are as much to blame for this what did they expect, it should have been structured with well financed and equipped camps and then taken from there, the problem is it has become a free for all with many economic migrants seeing this as an opportunity to get into Europe
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And? Whats wrong with economic migrants? They want to work for a better life, get over it.
 
economic migrants work? well fuk me that's a new word half of these fukers cant be arsed to dig a hole to shit in, i suppose there going to pay tax on there income to
 
I think our government has handled this incredibly well, not taking in anyone currently rampaging through Europe, disregarding border controls and throwing rocks at police is a good move. We can do without these people, many of them have travelled through numerous prosperous countries yet are still demanding where they claim asylum. I think we should take on as many children as we can. If that means opening up more orphanages in this country then so be it, with good funding they will be world class and will provide the perfect structures for these kids to go grow into model citizens. These children will grow up British and love this country. They will also won't be brainwashed by religion.

I admire what Hungary has done this past few weeks, protecting your people should be the first rule for every government. The Hungarian had no idea who was walking through their country, closing the border and enforcing strict border controls was a no brainer. This problem is going to get worse and worse, new routes are opening up every single day and many migrants have jumped on the bandwagon from relatively safe countries such as Bangladesh.
 
About time the BHLs took a look around the real world events besides the simple truth that there are very few, if any, "Refugee`s fleeing a war zone" by the time they have crossed eastern Europe heading for the benefits of the west.

The main instigator of this is the EU politicians, not the people who will have to live with the reality of less to go around in their own country.

The wheels are about to come flying off in Germany because one of their biggest earners (And employers), VWA, has been caught bang to rights systematically fiddling the emissions regulations in the USA ( Corporate fines expected in the Billions, as well as class law suits, with other countries now retesting the cars expect yet more ), share price already down 17% with a real world expectation of a fall in demand and lay offs in the factories and connected industry...And this is the powerhouse of the EU economy.
So at a time when there is a very real danger of their economy taking a big hit if not stalling to a standstill, its going to be a great idea to burden the country with large numbers of unproductive, poorly educated financial migrants and expect no backlash from the people is it ?.

The only way to help the genuine refugee`s is to enforce the borders, set up safe zones in their own country so they can return and rebuild their homes when things get sorted out
 
So Merkels strategy of closing the borders to Germany has worked as planned and the EU have today agreed to national quotas for 120,000 refugees currently stuck in Hungary, Greece and Italy:

Germany 31,443, France 24,031, Spain 14,931

Poland 9287, Holland 7214, Rumania 6464, Belgium 4564, Sweden 4469, Austria 3640,
Portugal 3074, Czech Rep 2978, Finland 2398, Bulgaria 1600, Slovakia 1502, Croatia 1064

Lithuania 780, Slovenia 631, Latvia 526, Luxembourg 440, Estonia 373, Cyprus 274, Malta 133
 
blueish swede said:
So Merkels strategy of closing the borders to Germany has worked as planned and the EU have today agreed to national quotas for 120,000 refugees currently stuck in Hungary, Greece and Italy:

Germany 31,443, France 24,031, Spain 14,931

Poland 9287, Holland 7214, Rumania 6464, Belgium 4564, Sweden 4469, Austria 3640,
Portugal 3074, Czech Rep 2978, Finland 2398, Bulgaria 1600, Slovakia 1502, Croatia 1064

Lithuania 780, Slovenia 631, Latvia 526, Luxembourg 440, Estonia 373, Cyprus 274, Malta 133
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It's like a lottery, put your hand in a bag and see what country you get

" fucking Poland I wanted Germany"

" you will be safe sir "

" I can't make any money in bleeding Poland err sorry I mean feel safe there, fuck off and get me a leaky dinghy I'm going back"
 
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