Regrouping of singers within the stadium

[mancityvstoke]

I think for a better atmosphere we need to sing songs for longer aswell.

That is a fundamental problem with our singers in my opinion.

How about everybody learns the second verse of Blue Moon , instead of the song dying out early or repeating the first verse. The dippers do it well with YNWA to be honest.

Have you been a blue long?

 

[Bluep*ss]

These are 2 genuine questions.

1 ). How many will the South Stand hold when we are up and running in August.?.

2 ). When we play cup games will the whole of the home support have to move ? - and where to?.-

 

[dannybcity]

Does today's email about season cards change anything, is everything sorted?

 

[BlueDruid]

A huge thanks to everyone who has been involved in organising this - I don't post often but wanted to register my thanks. Getting really excited about next season now as me and the kids (aged 13 and 10) have decided to move with the singers from the family stand. I know this will mean an extra £250 per season but for the extra atmosphere the £13 a game is well worth it. I've also looked at it as a long term investment getting the chance to move to the best part of the ground where my kids can keep their seats for many years to come.

Will I be receiving notification of the move or do I need to register the move myself?

Thanks again!

 

[MCFCRICH]

Is anyone having the same thought as me that with the cheaper tickets and the bulk of the away fans been in South Stand Level 3 the atmosphere will shift to up there.

I sit south stand level 1 block 116 but with away fans been moved I will no longer be near them and I enjoy been close to them for the atmosphere etc but I am going to try relocate to level 3.

Hopefully this will mean we will have a full south stand making noise but could it mean majority will come from the new level 3.

 

[BlueDruid]

Judging by the away support at our ground this year I'd be surprised if the 3rd tier away will ever be full except for the big games/clubs.

 

[trevorriley]

Is anyone having the same thought as me that with the cheaper tickets and the bulk of the away fans been in South Stand Level 3 the atmosphere will shift to up there.

I sit south stand level 1 block 116 but with away fans been moved I will no longer be near them and I enjoy been close to them for the atmosphere etc but I am going to try relocate to level 3.

Hopefully this will mean we will have a full south stand making noise but could it mean majority will come from the new level 3.

I see what you mean, I guess there will always be a shift around of fans that want to sing near away support or look at cheaper options for seats, some may do this so end up in the third tier. The plus on this would be that singing can start catching on eventually from 1st / 2nd / 3rd tier so create a fortress. Also people leaving 116 or 117 to go in the third tier creates space for more singers to go in the seats in 116 / 117 that are created. Its well known now that its encouraged as a singing / atmosphere end in the SS so people moving there are less likely to sit down or not want to sing at all.

There will still be pitch side away fans to have the banter with although reduced quite a lot. There will be more noise coming from 115 as its now full of supporters wanting to sing regardless of away fans, so its going to make things louder. This should spread and maybe in time create a big end behind the goals singing. And not forgetting 110 / kippax corner. So if singing and banter with away fans is preferred I think 115 will still be the place to be even with reduced away support.

I know fans like banter with away supporters, I dont mind less of them near us though, i tend to sing in pride of being a blue even if 3 nil down.

Im looking forward to next season in 115, should be great. Also some great positive posts on BM.

 

[trevorriley]

Have we got confirmation yet were not gonna be moved for the cup games. I've heard the plan is away fans in level 3 but heard nothing definite on that

Still nothing yet about away fans... Third tier for them in cup games would be best but can see police not liking that.. If they give away fans tier one & two then that leaves same issue as city fans looking down on them...

 

[blue roo]

That is a fundamental problem with our singers in my opinion.

How about everybody learns the second verse of Blue Moon , instead of the song dying out early or repeating the first verse. The dippers do it well with YNWA to be honest.

Have you been a blue long?

Probably a lot longer than you mate , first game was when Johnny Crossan was captain. And you?
Anyway , I'm not sure what you are getting at , care to explain?

 

[middleton___blue]

I think for a better atmosphere we need to sing songs for longer aswell.

That is a fundamental problem with our singers in my opinion.

I think it's not just the length of a song... We can potentially sing our songs for longer but we don't.
Why?
Because we no longer have the passion to cheer the team. as the success has appeared our expectations has also and we now sit back and expect a positive result.
Give us a few seasons of winning F* all and the stadium will be bouncing again, with success hungry fans singing for 90mins.

There are other factors such as over-policing/stewarding (being told to sit in 109 as an example) and many people who would sing in a public place are priced out of the stadium.... Replaced by a much more middleclass fanbase who are more reserved and less likely to scream and shout in public places.

Hopefully this singing section will be the motivation, allowing people to relax and feel comfortable in singing amongst likeminded people.
However my cynical side just thinks it might be an opportunity for the club to divide the fans even more and if the atmosphere doesn't improve, the club knock the singing section on it's head, replaced by much more expensive seats (with tourist buyers)

You hit the nail on the head there mate, the working class 'blokes' that were happy too sing all game on the condition of a couple of halfs maybe, have been replaced by the socially awkward, middle class prawn sandwich eating brigades that dont put their ipads down all game. Sad but true, this isnt just us though.

 

[royalblue]

Over the last few years some friends and I have attended many domestic league matches in a number of countries e.g. Germany, Turkey, Spain, Portugal, Poland, Czech Republic. I just have some observations.

Without exception the atmosphere at these games has been great regardless of the size of the crowd. The atmosphere has been created almost exclusively by home fans located behind one of the goals with in most cases little involvement in singing/chanting from the rest of the home support. In most cases the away support has been pitiful when compared to what Premier League teams would get. I have seen less than 20 away supporters at a couple of games.

The difference I have seen at these games compared to City and most other Premier League clubs (apart from Palace maybe) is that the noise is incessant for the 90 minutes. In almost all cases there was at least one "cheerleader" i.e. a nutter, often with a megaphone, who had his back to the pitch pretty much the entire game orchestrating the singing/chanting. It was mentioned earlier in the thread that we don't have enough songs at City or that they are not sung for long enough. I think when you look at these foreign supporters however, the amount of singing they do is actually not that great. A lot of the support is more in the way of chanting which is done in a deep guttural tone which is both very impressive (in my view) and slightly intimidating. You just don't get that type of chanting at English grounds. I suspect it is a cultural thing but in my view it would be great if the new "singing" section developed some good guttural chants (and maybe a nutter with a megaphone) .

 

[Nixon_The_Bike_Thief]

How about everybody learns the second verse of Blue Moon , instead of the song dying out early or repeating the first verse. The dippers do it well with YNWA to be honest.

Have you been a blue long?

Probably a lot longer than you mate , first game was when Johnny Crossan was captain. And you?
Anyway , I'm not sure what you are getting at , care to explain?

Happy to try and help clarify but no interest in joining in the sniping, I think he may be alluding to the fact that the first verse of Bluemoon has always been repeated since day one ?

 

[mancityvstoke]

Have you been a blue long?

Probably a lot longer than you mate , first game was when Johnny Crossan was captain. And you?
Anyway , I'm not sure what you are getting at , care to explain?

Happy to try and help clarify but no interest in joining in the sniping, I think he may be alluding to the fact that the first verse of Bluemoon has always been repeated since day one ?

Correct for top blue points..

By the way Skippy.......no one is a topper blue than me pal

You saw me standing alone..................no chance the full song would ever be sang by City

 

[blue roo]

By the way Skippy.......no one is a topper blue than me


Oh dear!

 

[BlueRob01]

AFAIK (I don't represent 1894 but am moving and have followed the progress) there is no difference except this block-and-a-half has been targeted specifically at active singers who want to improve the terrible atmosphere. Problem with the singing blocks right now is they're badly watered down by people who don't sing! So I guess the difference is 114/115 will have people desperate/wanting to sing and improve the atmosphere here and now. And hopefully there will be a knock-on effect throughout the South Stand if 114/115 can sing persistently.

Second the question from the previous page - should we expect contact from the club soon about where we're sitting?

I personally know the lad tasked by the 1894 group to sort out the relocation of fans wishing to join this group.

I can assure you that he is meticulous and has a comprehensive file on the matter. He was delayed somewhat by the Club as the half section of block 114 was not approved until recently.

He has now allocated seating for all those who responded to the 1894 group and has done a brilliant job of placing everybody as near as possible to their preferred location.

The amount of time and effort he has put into this is astounding and I for one wish the scheme every success.

If you are one of these people do not worry if the Club renewal shows your old seat, just get in touch with the 1894 group who will let you know your new seat location.

Myself and a fair few others I know in SS117 have registered and received the 1894 email about moving. We are assuming/hoping to be at or around the same kind of height level as current and have taken a bit of a leap of faith.
That said, i just wanted to echo the thanks to those that organised this. Having seen the new seating plans it can only help the noise levels. We have been complaining for 12 years now we don't have a proper home end. Looks like we now almost have. Thanks to 1894 for getting of their backsides and actually doing something. I really hope you have had the levels of support and faith in numbers you deserve.

 

[mancityvstoke]

By the way Skippy.......no one is a topper blue than me


Oh dear!

whoosh..............

 

[paulchapo]

I see 119 in the South stand where i stand/sit appears to come under the singing section. I hope someone has told some of the living dead in that area some of whom hardly utter a peep all match unless it is to mutter disapprovingly at somebody who does lol!

 

[mancityvstoke]

I see 119 in the South stand where i stand/sit appears to come under the singing section. I hope someone has told some of the living dead in that area some of whom hardly utter a peep all match unless it is to mutter disapprovingly at somebody who does lol!

yeah mate it's going to be interesting to see what happens with all this moving about .......more joining in I hope.

 

[paulchapo]

I see 119 in the South stand where i stand/sit appears to come under the singing section. I hope someone has told some of the living dead in that area some of whom hardly utter a peep all match unless it is to mutter disapprovingly at somebody who does lol!

yeah mate it's going to be interesting to see what happens with all this moving about .......more joining in I hope.

Hopefully. I don't know how it got this bad really. The end of terracing, people being able to decide on the spur of the moment to jump on a bus and pay in, the mixing of kids, loonies and women/grannies together all contributed.

 

[mancityvstoke]

I see 119 in the South stand where i stand/sit appears to come under the singing section. I hope someone has told some of the living dead in that area some of whom hardly utter a peep all match unless it is to mutter disapprovingly at somebody who does lol!

yeah mate it's going to be interesting to see what happens with all this moving about .......more joining in I hope.

Hopefully. I don't know how it got this bad really. The end of terracing, people being able to decide on the spur of the moment to jump on a bus and pay in, the mixing of kids, loonies and women/grannies together all contributed.

exactly.....The (old) Kippax was really the only place where it got mad in a lot of games. Some games were dead even then.

The equation would be :

Standing terraces + pay cash on the turnstile + big game = great atmosphere.

Although all ticket derby or cup games were mental too