Religion

[SWP's back]

We don’t know how life was “created” just to point out.

We 100% know life on Earth as exists now was not created as per Genesis. That is without a single doubt.

 

[Metal Biker]

 

[BlueHammer85]

So you’re saying that the bible is metaphorical, not literal?

or a mixture?

if it’s a mixture, who’s interpretation can be judged correct on each sentence?

if it’s metaphorical, then why do we have zealots saying things like the earth is 6000 odd years old?

if it’s literal, then … see most of posts on this thread, pointing out the absurdity.

they pick and choose, whatever suits their argument - sad fuckers.

 

[Metal Biker]

We 100% know life on Earth as exists now was not created as per Genesis. That is without a single doubt.

Maybe the Bible just skipped the whole "God created life... in the form of a bacteria 3.85 billion years ago"

I dunno Matthew, isn't that all a bit too 'mouthy'? Can't we just shorten it too, "God created life"? It gets the gist of it correct and i'm pretty sure there won't be any misunderstandings.

 

[Octavian]

All agnostics are atheists. Atheism is an absence of belief in a deity. An agnostic doesn’t know if there is one or not, therefore all agnostics are agnostic atheists. It’s like pregnancy, you can’t be a little bit pregnant, you are or you aren’t. Same with believing in a god, you do or you don’t. If I ask you if you’re currently driving a combine harvester, you either are or you aren’t. If you’re not sure if you’re driving one then reality says you aren’t.


No, I’ve quoted some (but very few in comparison to all the ALL the bad bits) of the Christian Old Testament. It’s very obviously an important part of the Bible for the morality of Christians. After all, it’s the OT that contains the parts outlawing homosexuality which some Christians so abhor



The Bible is a load of bollocks whose contents were agreed upon some 200-400 years after the time of the events that are written about. The best way to view it is a work of fiction to explain phenomena that Bronze Age folk couldn’t understand and it got out of hand.

I don’t know how to do that fancy quoting you’ve done so I’ll just try and respond.

On the first point, I look a little bit pregnant to be honest but I get the point. I don’t know and don’t pretend to know. Although I like to think there’s something else, some meaning but that may be my over grown adrenaline gland in my brain.

Every quote you made was from the Hebrew Bible to be fair mate. Corinthians literally tells gentiles (non jewish) Christians to not follow jewish tradition and that part of the Bible. If Christians are following it, they don’t even understand their own religion, which doesn’t surprise me.

Last point, I do agree with most of it, although I don’t think the New Testament was complete fiction. There was very likely a historical Jesus who is followers believed in, there were many similar figures at the time though and this one stuck for one reason or another. Paul’s letters are obviously historical, no scholar would disagree with that.

 

[Octavian]

The examples are about attitudes towards those who reject God. I can post the whole thing if you want, it still sends the same message.

This whole conversation has been about calling out those who would use scripture to force others to behave differently or deny them their liberty because of it. It's not primarily been a "lets bash Christianity and Christians debate." Those using the Bible as the prime example of morality, yet refusing to address the heinous and outright evil texts it preaches are being shown up for what they are.

Don’t disagree.

 

[Octavian]

That’s a great quote.

 

[Octavian]

We 100% know life on Earth as exists now was not created as per Genesis. That is without a single doubt.

Absolutely.

I can’t Adam and Eve it.

 

[SWP's back]

The reason you have zealots believing the world is 6000 years old is because people are stupid.

Totally agree, you hear that @paulsimpson

 

[SWP's back]

I don’t know how to do that fancy quoting you’ve done so I’ll just try and respond.

On the first point, I look a little bit pregnant to be honest but I get the point. I don’t know and don’t pretend to know. Although I like to think there’s something else, some meaning but that may be my over grown adrenaline gland in my brain.

Every quote you made was from the Hebrew Bible to be fair mate. Corinthians literally tells gentiles (non jewish) Christians to not follow jewish tradition and that part of the Bible. If Christians are following it, they don’t even understand their own religion, which doesn’t surprise me.

Last point, I do agree with most of it, although I don’t think the New Testament was complete fiction. There was very likely a historical Jesus who is followers believed in, there were many similar figures at the time though and this one stuck for one reason or another. Paul’s letters are obviously historical, no scholar would disagree with that.

Enjoyed chatting to you buddy. Off to have some dinner with a nice Cabernet and watch a movie.