A LITTLE silly? I can't believe (actually, i can) that these religions have been so prominent over the years. How influential. ...yet BS...The give away is in the very first chapter of the bible...the Earth was created before the sun!I understood the time between “events” and the “quotations” being recorded for posterity.
Sadly, I think the whole grand delusion is the fleecing of weak mind by those that seek to control them and their behavior, through fear, intimidation, and the threat of eternal damnation.
All seems a little silly when you step back and give it any serious thought, don’t you think?
Just curious - but would you say that your writing in this way is an example of someone who has a strong mind?I understood the time between “events” and the “quotations” being recorded for posterity.
Sadly, I think the whole grand delusion is the fleecing of weak mind by those that seek to control them and their behavior, through fear, intimidation, and the threat of eternal damnation.
All seems a little silly when you step back and give it any serious thought, don’t you think?
did he say he was god though?you are right to a point, but the gospel attributed to john(written maybe early 2nd century), the jesus in this version has no problem saying he is god, he is constantly is saying it i.e 10:30 and should have been stoned to death (they did try but not very hard it appears as he talks to them and they seem to stop)
which incidentally is in complete opposition to the synoptics
That’s possibly because they were all made up years after the fact ? Just a thought.did he say he was god though?
"i and the father are one".... to me thats quite vague and could have multiple meanings. Context is important IMO. Jesus never spoke in ambiguous words. Id expected him to say, I am God in flesh. Or pray to me. He never did either of the two.
Another argument, when he was about to be crucified he prayed to his father. Take this cup away from me. Why would he pray to god if he was god?
And there are multiple verses where he says "I go to my god and your god".
Hence the confusion and different versions.
I don’t agree with your 2nd paragraph.I understood the time between “events” and the “quotations” being recorded for posterity.
Sadly, I think the whole grand delusion is the fleecing of weak mind by those that seek to control them and their behavior, through fear, intimidation, and the threat of eternal damnation.
All seems a little silly when you step back and give it any serious thought, don’t you think?
It sounds like people back then didn’t really understand what he was saying to them, as most of it was open to interpretation and different understandings.did he say he was god though?
"i and the father are one".... to me thats quite vague and could have multiple meanings. Context is important IMO. Jesus never spoke in ambiguous words. Id expected him to say, I am God in flesh. Or pray to me. He never did either of the two.
Another argument, when he was about to be crucified he prayed to his father. Take this cup away from me. Why would he pray to god if he was god?
And there are multiple verses where he says "I go to my god and your god".
Hence the confusion and different versions.
Jesus never calls himself God directly in the Gospels but others do, mostly in John.did he say he was god though?
"i and the father are one".... to me thats quite vague and could have multiple meanings. Context is important IMO. Jesus never spoke in ambiguous words. Id expected him to say, I am God in flesh. Or pray to me. He never did either of the two.
Another argument, when he was about to be crucified he prayed to his father. Take this cup away from me. Why would he pray to god if he was god?
And there are multiple verses where he says "I go to my god and your god".
Hence the confusion and different versions.
Sorry Arfur this made me laugh.It sounds like people back then didn’t really understand what he was saying to them, as most of it was open to interpretation and different understandings.
A bit like Arfur.
Arfur is too chilled to take offence.Sorry Arfur this made me laugh.
You’re right though, the whole Bible is a bunch of confused Jews in the New Testament.
Oh, I can get rip roaringly wound up - one of the ‘benefits’ of reading this thread - but then it’s a question of how to be with that. Now we ARE getting into Kung Fu Panda territory, lmaoArfur is too chilled to take offence.