Religion

[Big Joe Corrigan]

“From God's perspective, He created human beings so that He can show His mercy.”

But only when it suits him, so that’s selective mercy, nice.

 

[urban genie]

What I will say is we have recently witnessed

sword, (multiple wars)
famine, (food shortages globally)
wild beasts (us)
and pestilence ( global pandemic)

And a presence from the east will cause amargeddon (john made this bit up later)

So Eziekiel got at least the apocolalypse right when guessing the future ;-)

 

[vmsuhail]

so you are happy for evil to exist in the world because the god you believe in makes it thus
deary deary me

Yes, except in extreme situations, existing with evil around is better than non-existing. Or do you have a better alternative world ?

 

[tonea2003]

Yes, except in extreme situations, existing with evil around is better than non-existing. Or do you have a better alternative world ?

yes one without violence and suffering
so you accept evil happening to people you love? really ?

 

[bluealf]

Can you elaborate how that is possible without removing any of the traits that make us human ?

Murder, rape and being a paedo are traits that don't make me a human, maybe your shite god can remove them from the scum that have them, maybe a quick click of his fingers and he will strike down all the men of the cloth that have participated in those three traits.

Of course, he would have to exist in the first place for that to happen.

 

[vmsuhail]

yes one without violence and suffering
so you accept evil happening to people you love? really ?

Murder, rape and being a paedo are traits that don't make me a human, maybe your shite god can remove them from the scum that have them, maybe a quick click of his fingers and he will strike down all the men of the cloth that have participated in those three traits.

Of course, he would have to exist in the first place for that to happen.

You need to provide a conceptual world where we can live as humans without any violence or suffering. How do you prevent the capability of man to murder / rape etc. ? You gave the answer - maybe God should strike with the quick click of his fingers. And that takes us back to my earlier point, which is that if God decides to impose punishment like that, then no body would be left.

Qur'an 16:61 "And if God were to impose blame on the people for their wrongdoing, He would not have left upon the earth any creature, but He defers them for a specified term."

 

[urban genie]

You need to provide a conceptual world where we can live as humans without any violence or suffering. How do you prevent the capability of man to murder / rape etc. ? You gave the answer - maybe God should strike with the quick click of his fingers. And that takes us back to my earlier point, which is that if God decides to impose punishment like that, then no body would be left.

Qur'an 16:61 "And if God were to impose blame on the people for their wrongdoing, He would not have left upon the earth any creature, but He defers them for a specified term."

Maybe that would bw for the bwst thwn.

Click us out of existance and start again, butt hen who would trust a god that failed so much in creating us in the first place to not mess up creation again

 

[bluealf]

You need to provide a conceptual world where we can live as humans without any violence or suffering. How do you prevent the capability of man to murder / rape etc. ? You gave the answer - maybe God should strike with the quick click of his fingers. And that takes us back to my earlier point, which is that if God decides to impose punishment like that, then no body would be left.

Qur'an 16:61 "And if God were to impose blame on the people for their wrongdoing, He would not have left upon the earth any creature, but He defers them for a specified term."

More fairy tales

 

[tonea2003]

You need to provide a conceptual world where we can live as humans without any violence or suffering. How do you prevent the capability of man to murder / rape etc. ? You gave the answer - maybe God should strike with the quick click of his fingers. And that takes us back to my earlier point, which is that if God decides to impose punishment like that, then no body would be left.

Qur'an 16:61 "And if God were to impose blame on the people for their wrongdoing, He would not have left upon the earth any creature, but He defers them for a specified term."

are you going to answer my question in relation to people you love

 

[vmsuhail]

Maybe that would bw for the bwst thwn.

Click us out of existance and start again, butt hen who would trust a god that failed so much in creating us in the first place to not mess up creation again

Or the best way is to create a world which

• permits humans to exercise their capabilities, both good and bad
• show where each choices would lead them to
• allow repentance and forgiveness
• experience the joys and struggles of life developing patience and perseverance
• fulfill the duties to oneself, family and society
• live in submission, hope, optimism and fear of the justice of God
• while developing a clean heart free of arrogance, envy, boastfulness etc.

and then resurrect them into the ideal world (heaven) where

• they can live with the righteous in the presence of their Lord
• where there is no evil or fear or pain or aging or fatigue
• the potential for resentment is taken away and therefore no violence or conflicts (Qur'an 15:47)
• everyone gets what they desire and they can choose to work or not work
• all the while having a sense of accomplishment for their deeds in the previous life (Qur'an 69:19)